At page 588 Determining plain error under federal rules107 citing cases“a plain error is an error that is 'obvious' and is 'clear under current law.”
- United States v. Tammy Lynn Valdes, 681 F. App'x 874 (11th Cir. 2017).unpublished(A plain error is an error that is ‘obvious’ and is ‘clear under current law.’)
- United States v. Robert Daniels, 685 F.3d 1237 (11th Cir. 2012).published(A plain error is an error that is ‘obvious’ and is ‘clear under current law.’)
- United States v. Ardley, 242 F.3d 989 (11th Cir. 2001).published(our power to review for plain error is ‘limited’ and ‘circumscribed.’)
- United States v. Campbell, 223 F.3d 1286 (11th Cir. 2000).published (A plain error is an error that is 'obvious' and is 'clear under current law.')
- United States v. Henry Abdo, No. 25-11767 (11th Cir. Aug. 13, 2026).unpublishedAnd our review of relevant authority from other circuits shows that “the district court’s alleged error is not ‘obvious’ or ‘clear under current law.’” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Tyreic Brewer, No. 24-13831 (11th Cir. Apr. 3, 2026).unpublished“A plain error is an error that is ‘obvious’ and is ‘clear under current law.’” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quoting United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 731 (1993)); see also United States v. Lejarde-Rad…
- United States v. Ali Akhenaten, No. 22-13824 (11th Cir. Feb. 4, 2026).unpublished(A plain error is an error that is obvious and is clear under current law.” (quotation marks omitted))
- United States v. Jarnel Sael, No. 25-10750 (11th Cir. Nov. 6, 2025).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Francisco Louis, 146 F.4th 1328 (11th Cir. 2025).published “A plain error is an error that is obvious and is clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quotation omitted).
- United States v. Jonathan Kuykendall, No. 24-13076 (11th Cir. Aug. 12, 2025).unpublished“A plain error is an error that is obvious and is clear USCA11 Case: 24-13076 Document: 27-1 Date Filed: 08/12/2025 Page: 3 of 5 under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quotation marks omitted).
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- United States v. Santiago Alirio Gomez Rivera, 136 F.4th 1284 (11th Cir. 2025).published“A plain error is an error that is obvious and is clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (internal marks omitted).
- United States v. Joshua Maywalt, No. 22-11948 (11th Cir. June 13, 2024).unpublished United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Branden Tyler, No. 22-12385 (11th Cir. Dec. 28, 2023).unpublished United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quoting United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir. 1996).
- United States v. Shauntay Craig, No. 21-10361 (11th Cir. Mar. 2, 2022).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Tamara Jeune, No. 19-14890 (11th Cir. Aug. 23, 2021).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999). 41 USCA11 Case: 19-13018 Date Filed: 08/23/2021 Page: 42 of 65 C.
- United States v. Gregory Leri, 849 F. App'x 898 (11th Cir. 2021).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Jonathan Greene, No. 19-11609 (11th Cir. Dec. 28, 2020).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Jesse James Patterson, Jr., 829 F. App'x 917 (11th Cir. 2020).unpublishedAn error is plain when it “is obvious and is clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quotation marks omitted).
- United States v. Ramon Lopez-Alvarado, No. 18-14930 (11th Cir. May 1, 2020).unpublishedPlain errors must be “obvious” and “clear under current law.” See United States v. Lange, 862 F.3d 1290, 1296 (11th Cir. 2017) (quoting United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999)). “[T]here can be no plain error where th…
- United States v. LaQuanda Gilmore Garrott, 812 F. App'x 905 (11th Cir. 2020).unpublishedAn error is plain if “the error . . . is obvious and is clear under current law,” United States v. Dortch, 696 F.3d 1104, 1112 (11th Cir. 2012), and an error is not obvious or clear when “‘[n]o Supreme Court decision squarely supports’ the…
- United States v. Joseph Capello, No. 18-10310 (11th Cir. Oct. 25, 2019).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999); see also United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 734 (1993) (explaining that the “plain” part of plain error “is synonymous with ‘clear’ or, equivalently, ‘obvious,’” meaning tha…
- United States v. Andrew Haley Morcombe, No. 18-13237 (11th Cir. Sept. 13, 2019).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- Viktoria Benkovitch v. Vill. of Key Biscayne, No. 18-11601 (11th Cir. June 20, 2019).unpublished“A plain error is an error that is ‘obvious’ and is ‘clear under current law.’” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quoting United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 734 (1993)).
- United States v. Michael Roy Fraser, No. 18-13147 (11th Cir. Jan. 4, 2019).unpublishedWe do not see Arango-Chairez as lending persuasive authority because Fraser was not incarcerated at the time he was questioned. “[W]here neither the Supreme Court nor this Court has ever resolved an issue, and other circuits are split on i…
- United States v. Kurt Zamor, No. 16-16731 (11th Cir. Aug. 9, 2018).unpublished“An error is not obvious and clear when ‘[n]o Supreme Court decision squarely supports’ the defendant’s argument, ‘other circuits . . . are split’ regarding the resolution of the defendant’s argument, and ‘we have never resolved the issue.…
- United States v. Arthur Kyle Lange, 862 F.3d 1290 (11th Cir. 2017).published“A plain error is an error that is ‘obvious’ and is ‘clear under current law.’ ” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (citing United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 734 , 113 S.Ct. 1770 , 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993)).
- United States v. Charlie Warren Pendleton, 665 F. App'x 836 (11th Cir. 2016).unpublished“A plain error is an error that is ‘obvious’ and is ‘clear under current law.’ ” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999).
- United States v. Glen Sterling Carpenter, 803 F.3d 1224 (11th Cir. 2015).published“an error that is obvious and is clear under current law”
- United States v. Jonathan Everett Gibson, 615 F. App'x 619 (11th Cir. 2015).unpublishedAn error cannot be “plain” unless it is “obvious” and “clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999).
- United States v. George R. Cavallo, 790 F.3d 1202 (11th Cir. 2015).publishedThere being no controlling precedent resolving Caval-lo’s present claim, the district court’s error, if any, on the standard of proof is not “obvious” or “clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.199…
- State v. Rafael Galvan, 326 P.3d 1029 (Idaho Ct. App. 2014).published(holding where no precedent clearly resolved the defendant’s claim of error, the error was not “obvious” and thus could not be reviewed under the plain error doctrine)
- United States v. Kenny Thrower, 524 F. App'x 579 (11th Cir. 2013).unpublishedAn error cannot be “plain” unless it is “clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999).
- United States v. Yvonne Stouffrant, 517 F. App'x 803 (11th Cir. 2013).unpublishedAn error is plain or obvious only if it is "clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999) (quotation marks omitted).
- United States v. Judith Negron, 517 F. App'x 692 (11th Cir. 2013).unpublished An error is plain only if it “is an error that is obvious and is clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999) (internal quotation marks omitted).
- United States v. Dedrick D. Gandy, 710 F.3d 1234 (11th Cir. 2013).publishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999).
- United States v. Gabriel Blair Stitt, 500 F. App'x 834 (11th Cir. 2012).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999).
- United States v. Cecil Anthony Dortch, 696 F.3d 1104 (11th Cir. 2012).published An error is not obvious and clear when “[n]o Supreme Court decision squarely supports” the defendant’s argument, “other circuits . . . are split” regarding the resolution of the defendant’s argument, and “we have never resolved the issue.”…
- United States v. Rodrick Clayton, 477 F. App'x 644 (11th Cir. 2012).unpublished“A plain error is an error that is obvious and is clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999) (internal quotation marks omitted).
- United States v. Marco Hernandez, 470 F. App'x 826 (11th Cir. 2012).unpublishedUnited States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999).
- United States v. Jimmy Morris, 457 F. App'x 900 (11th Cir. 2012).unpublished“A plain error is an error that is obvious and is clear under current law.” United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir.1999) (internal quotation marks omitted).
- State v. Guillermo G. Bedolla (Idaho Ct. App. 2012).unpublished(holding where no precedent clearly resolved the defendant’s claim of error, the error was not “obvious” and could not be reviewed under the plain error doctrine)
- United States v. Riviera Marshall, 360 F. App'x 24 (11th Cir. 2010).unpublished
- United States v. David O. Spence, Sr., 151 F. App'x 836 (11th Cir. 2005).unpublished
- United States v. Wade Kilgore, 151 F. App'x 799 (11th Cir. 2005).unpublished
- United States v. Juan Carlos Vergara Riveira, 207 F. App'x 995 (11th Cir. 2006).unpublished
- United States v. Daryl Leroy Hickson, 204 F. App'x 859 (11th Cir. 2006).unpublished
- United States v. Peter Gonzalez, 181 F. App'x 794 (11th Cir. 2006).unpublished
- United States v. Cedric Williams, 214 F. App'x 935 (11th Cir. 2007).unpublished
- United States v. Eliezer Yehudah Neufeld, 223 F. App'x 887 (11th Cir. 2007).unpublished
- United States v. William D. Morris, 228 F. App'x 906 (11th Cir. 2007).unpublished
- United States v. Jeffrey Boatwright, 253 F. App'x 836 (11th Cir. 2007).unpublished
- United States v. Thomas Anthony Crandall, 270 F. App'x 796 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Albert Pina-Suarez, 280 F. App'x 813 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Richard Wilkinson, 282 F. App'x 750 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Ricardo Aguera, 281 F. App'x 893 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Salvador Magluta, 313 F. App'x 201 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Arthur Junior Green, 296 F. App'x 811 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Natalia Humm, 299 F. App'x 877 (11th Cir. 2008).unpublished
- United States v. Anthony Apollini Dawkins, 341 F. App'x 520 (11th Cir. 2009).unpublished
- United States v. Dennis E. Ray, 346 F. App'x 507 (11th Cir. 2009).unpublished
- United States v. Gary William West, 333 F. App'x 494 (11th Cir. 2009).unpublished
- United States v. Gerald L. Banks, 350 F. App'x 419 (11th Cir. 2009).unpublished
- United States v. Lance Bouvira Drew, 356 F. App'x 258 (11th Cir. 2009).unpublished
- United States v. Hunerlach, 197 F.3d 1059 (11th Cir. 1999).published
- United States v. Johanna Isabel Camacho, 233 F.3d 1308 (11th Cir. 2000).published
- United States v. Sean Anthony Gerrow, 232 F.3d 831 (11th Cir. 2000).published
- United States v. Jose Hernandez-Gonzalez, 318 F.3d 1299 (11th Cir. 2003).published
- United States v. Larry Thomas Dacus, 408 F.3d 686 (11th Cir. 2005).published
- United States v. Quan Chau, 426 F.3d 1318 (11th Cir. 2005).published
- United States v. Eckhardt, 466 F.3d 938 (11th Cir. 2006).published
- United States v. Patrick Lett, 483 F.3d 782 (11th Cir. 2007).published
- United States v. Carruth, 528 F.3d 845 (11th Cir. 2008).published
- United States v. Fontenot, 611 F.3d 734 (11th Cir. 2010).published
- United States v. William Sardinas, 386 F. App'x 927 (11th Cir. 2010).unpublished
- United States v. Keith Edward Olmeda, 415 F. App'x 193 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Edgar Geovani Esquivel Castillo, 427 F. App'x 748 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Ricardo Dominguez Gutierrez, 446 F. App'x 151 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Perez, 661 F.3d 568 (11th Cir. 2011).published
- United States v. Kenneth D. Edwards, 447 F. App'x 43 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Pascual Montor-Torres, 449 F. App'x 820 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Barry Leon Ardley, 273 F.3d 991 (11th Cir. 2001).published
- State v. Traci N. Hadden (Idaho Ct. App. 2012).published
- State v. Hadden, 271 P.3d 1227 (Idaho Ct. App. 2012).published
- State v. Corbus, 256 P.3d 776 (Idaho Ct. App. 2011).published
- State v. Filip Danney (Idaho Ct. App. 2010).published
- United States v. Herve Wilmore, Jr., 625 F. App'x 366 (11th Cir. 2015).unpublished
- United States v. Manuel A. Walcott, 431 F. App'x 860 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Eric Thomas Brown, 423 F. App'x 889 (11th Cir. 2011).unpublished
- United States v. Hayward Feaster, 394 F. App'x 561 (11th Cir. 2010).unpublished
- Kimelyn A. Minnifield v. Wells Fargo Bank, N.A., No. 18-13662 (11th Cir. Sept. 30, 2019).unpublished
- United States v. Jermaine Isaac Ross, No. 18-13778 (11th Cir. Mar. 17, 2020).unpublished
- United States v. Thaddeus Rhodes, No. 23-10989 (11th Cir. Mar. 8, 2024).unpublished
- United States v. Joseph Jones, No. 25-12918 (11th Cir. Jan. 12, 2026).unpublished
At page 587 Assessing rule 11 compliance regarding sentence notification15 citing casesThe appropriate standard of review, given [Defendant’s] failure to object in the district court ... is plain error,
- United States v. Lourdes Margarita Garcia, 906 F.3d 1255 (11th Cir. 2018).published (The appropriate standard of review, given [the defendant’s] failure to object in the district court . . . is plain error.)
- United States v. Leonardo Divinci Larck, 703 F. App'x 793 (11th Cir. 2017).unpublished(The appropriate standard of review, given [Defendant’s] failure to object in the district court ... is plain error,)
- United States v. Kerrick D. Reese, No. 18-12851 (11th Cir. Sept. 24, 2019).unpublished“An error cannot meet the ‘plain’ requirement of the plain error rule unless it is ‘clear under the current law.’” United States v. Aguillard, 217 F.3d 1319, 1321 (11th Cir. 2000) (quoting United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 587 (11th…
- Gordon v. Johnson, No. 97-20815 (5th Cir. July 9, 1999).unpublished
- United States v. Carlos Benhamu, 161 F. App'x 805 (11th Cir. 2005).unpublished
- United States v. Felix Ramon Alcantara, 257 F. App'x 174 (11th Cir. 2007).unpublished
- United States v. Jennifer Aguillard, 217 F.3d 1319 (11th Cir. 2000).published
- United States v. Ignasio Maldenaldo Sanchez, 242 F.3d 1294 (11th Cir. 2001).published
- United States v. Ignasio Maldenaldo Sanchez, 242 F.3d 1294 (11th Cir. 2001).published
- United States v. Glenn Mitchell Florence, 333 F.3d 1290 (11th Cir. 2003).published
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- United States v. Marco D. Duncan, 381 F.3d 1070 (11th Cir. 2004).published
- United States v. Donald Floyd Brown, 374 F. App'x 927 (11th Cir. 2010).unpublished
v.
Patrick Lamar HUMPHREY, Defendant-Appellant
Appellant, Patrick L. Humphrey, argues on appeal that the district court failed to meet the requirements of Fed.R.Crim.P. 11 when accepting his guilty plea. We see no plain error and affirm.
Background
Humphrey was charged with one count of possessing cocaine base with intent to distribute, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), and one count of using and carrying a firearm in a drug trafficking crime, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1). Humphrey pled guilty to both counts.
Before accepting Humphrey’s plea, the district court engaged Humphrey in the dialogue required by Fed.R.Crim.P. 11. Humphrey’s attorney was present. The district court judge informed Humphrey of the minimum and maximum penalties under each count but did not inform Humphrey that the sentences had to be served consecutively. [1]
[*587] Later, Humphrey was sentenced to five years of imprisonment on each count, to be served consecutively. On appeal, Humphrey argues that the Rule 11 proceeding was faulty because the district court judge did not tell him that the two sentences had to be served consecutively. Humphrey never made this argument to the district court.
Discussion
We have written that a Rule 11 proceeding must do three things. First, the proceeding must ensure the guilty plea is free of coercion. Second, the proceeding must make sure the defendant understands the charges against him. Third, the proceeding must confirm that the defendant is aware of the consequences of his guilty plea. See United States v. Zickert, 955 F.2d 665, 668 (11th Cir.1992).
Humphrey says his Rule 11 hearing did not ensure he was aware of the consequences of his guilty plea because the district court judge did not say that the sentence for the firearm count must be served consecutively to the sentence for the drug possession count. Humphrey relies on our decision in United States v. Siegel, 102 F.3d 477 (11th Cir.1996). Siegel says a district court must advise a defendant of the maximum sentences and “mandatory nature” of the penalties associated with his crimes to satisfy Rule 11. 102 F.3d at 482. Humphrey’s claim is that — by failing to tell him about the consecutive nature of the sentences — the district court violated Rule 11 because he was not told the mandatory nature of the penalties associated with his guilty pleas.
The government argues that the requirements of Rule 11 were met by informing Humphrey of the minimum and maximum penalties for each count. Nothing in Rule 11(c)(1), according to the government, explicitly requires informing a defendant about the consecutive nature of multiple sentences. Other circuits appear to agree — in varying degrees — with the government’s general position. [2] Also, a Fifth Circuit decision that is one of our precedents suggests — but does not require — the result advocated by the government. See United States v. Saldana, 505 F.2d 628, 628 (5th Cir.1974) (no violation of Rule 11 when district court fails to tell defendant that sentence about to be imposed would be consecutive to sentence he was already serving). The government also points out that Humphrey failed to object to later statements, informing Humphrey that he would face consecutive sentences, made in the pre-sentence investigation report and at the sentencing hearing.
The appropriate standard of review, given Humphrey’s failure to object in the district court to the consecutive sentences, is plain error. See Fed.R.Crim.P. 52(b); United States v. Quinones, 97 F.3d 473, 475 (11th Cir.1996). “No procedural principle is more familial’ ... than that a constitutional right, or a right of any other sort, may be forfeited in criminal as well as civil cases by the failure to make timely assertion of the right before a tribunal having jurisdiction to determine it.” United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 731, 113 S.Ct. 1770, 1776, 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993) (internal quotation marks and citations omitted). An exception to this rule is plain error[*588] review, codified in Fed.R.Crim.P. 52(b). But our .power to review for plain error is “limited” and “circumscribed.” Olano, 507 U.S. at 732, 113 S.Ct. at 1776.
Four requirements must be met before we can reverse a district court for plain error. [3] Oné of the four requirements is that the error must be “plain.” Id. at 734, 113 S.Ct. at 1777. A plain error is an error that is “obvious” and is “clear under current law.” Id.
No Supreme Court decision squarely supports Humphrey’s claim. And other circuits — if we read the ease law most favorably to Humphrey — are split on Humphrey’s argument and similar arguments. [4] Also, we have never resolved the issue. All of these circumstances point to no plain error in this case. In Siegel, [5] the district court abused its discretion by failing to inform the defendant, among other things, that some sentences would have to be served consecutively. The Siegel court, however, treated all the facts before it as material to its decision. [6] At most, Siegel decided that — when a district court does not inform the defendant of the maximum sentences associated with three counts, of the mandatory minimum sentences associated with two counts, and of the consecutive nature of a sentence associated with one count — the omissions collectively amount to reversible error. Siegel did not decide— as Humphrey insists it did decide — that each one of those errors, standing alone, would justify reversing the district court. To be more specific, the Siegel court did not decide that circumstances like those in the present case (involving mandatory consecutive sentences only) amounted to reversible error. Because the Siegel case is not materially similar to Humphrey’s case, no plain error based on Siegel is present in this appeal.
Without precedent directly resolving Humphrey’s kind of claim, we conclude the district court’s alleged error is not “obvious” or “clear under current law.” See United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir.1996) (“Because of the circuit split, the lack of controlling authority, and the fact that there is at least some room for doubt about the outcome of this issue, we cannot brand the court’s failure to exclude the evidence ‘plain error’ ”) (footnote omitted). The error in this case (if there was an error), therefore, is not plain. See Olano, 507 U.S. at 734, 113 S.Ct. at 1777. Without a “plain” error, we lack authority to reverse the district court. See id. We express no view as to whether the district court committed an error other than a plain error.
AFFIRMED.
. The following exchange took place at the Rule 11 proceeding:
The Court: Do you understand that the maximum possible penalty under Count one is a fine of not more than two million dollars, or twice the gross loss to a victim or twice the gross gain to a defendant, whichever is greater; a term of imprisonment of not less than five years and not more than forty }'ears, or both fine and imprison-merit; a period of not less than four years of supervised release. The Court would also be required to require you to pay an assessment fee of fifty dollars on this Count. If there is any victim, the Court could order [you] to make restitution to any victim.
Under Count two you could be assessed a fine of not more than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or twice the gross loss to the victim or twice the gross gain to the defendant, whichever is greater. There is a mandatory live-year sentence as to Count two. You could be fined and have the mandatory sentence imposed. And[*587] there is a period of not more than three years of supervised release for this offense. The Court could require you to make restitution to a victim. The Court would also have to impose a fifty-dollar assessment as to this second count.
Now, both of these counts are what are known as guidelines cases. Have you had any explanation as to what a guidelines case means.
(Discussion between defendant and defense attorney).
Defendant: Yes, sir.
The Court: Do you understand all of these maximum possible penalties?
Defendant: Yes.
. See, e.g., United States v. Burney, 75 F.3d 442, 445 (8th Cir.1996) (no requirement to tell defendant about mandatory consecutive sentences); United States v. Ospina, 18 F.3d 1332, 1334 (6th Cir.1994) (same); see also Faulisi v. Daggett, 527 F.2d 305, 309 (7th Cir.1975) (no requirement to tell defendant that federal sentence may, at district court's discretion, run consecutively to state sentence); Wall v. United States, 500 F.2d 38, 39 (10th Cir.1974) (no requirement to tell defendant about possible consecutive sentences if sentences are within maximum sentence stated at Rule 11 hearing); Paradiso v. United States, 482 F.2d 409, 415 (3rd Cir.1973) (no requirement to inform defendant that multiple sentences might, at discretion of district court, be served consecutively); United States v. Venneulen, 436 F.2d 72, 75 (2d Cir.1970) (same). But see United States v. Neely, 38 F.3d 458, 460 (9th Cir.1994) (defendant must be told that his federal sentence must run consecutively to state sentence).
. First, there must be an error. Second, the error must be plain. Third, the error must affect substantial rights of the defendant. Fourth, the error must seriously affect the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of a judicial proceeding. Olano, 507 U.S. at 732, 113 S.Ct. at 1776. We address only the second requirement in today’s opinion.
. See supra note 2.
. The Court, in Olano, specifically declined to address "the special case where the error was unclear at the time of trial but becomes clear on appeal because the applicable law has been clarified.” 507 U.S. at 734, 113 S.Ct. at 1777. After Olano, we have considered decisions made between the alleged error of the district court and the appeal when deciding if an error is plain. See United States v. Antonietti, 86 F.3d 206, 208-09 (11th Cir.1996) (sentence based on definition of "marijuana seedling,” when definition changed in defendant's favor after sentencing, is plain error) (dicta or unclear alternative holding); United Slates v. Walker, 59 F.3d 1196, 1198 (11th Cir.1995) (conviction based on a statute later ruled unconstitutional after defendant’s trial is plain error). We will consider Siegel.
.The Siegel court took into account all of these facts:
It is undisputed that neither the district court nor the government informed Siegel during the Rule 11 proceedings of the twenty-year maximum sentences- that he could receive on Counts Four, Five, and Six. Moreover, it is uncontroverted that neither the district court nor the government advised Siegel that he would be required to serve a five-year mandatory minimum prison sentence if he pled guilty to the offense charged in Count Seven. Further it is undisputed that the district court failed to advise Siegel that if he pled guilty to Count Eight he would be required to serve a twenty-year mandatory minimum sentence, to be served consecutively to the sentences imposed on Counts One through Seven.
Siegel, 102 F.3d at 482.