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“capitol square is, indeed, a traditional public forum. over the years, groups ... have held rallies and sponsored speeches in the square.”
60 citation events (23 in the last 25 years) across 15 distinct courts.
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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Kanelos v. County of Mohave
D. Ariz. · 2012 · signal: see, e.g. · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
capitol square is, indeed, a traditional public forum. over the years, groups ... have held rallies and sponsored speeches in the square.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Satawa v. Bd. of County Road Com'rs of MacOmb Cty.
E.D. Mich. · 2009 · confidence medium
Bd., 30 F.3d 675, 676 (6th Cir.1994).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ridley v. Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (2×)
1st Cir. · 2004 · confidence medium
What the MBTA fails to understand is that "[z]ealots have First Amendment rights too." Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675, 680 (6th Cir.1994), aff'd on other grounds, 515 U.S. 753, 760 , 115 S.Ct. 2440 , 132 L.Ed.2d 650 (1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jocham v. Tuscola County
E.D. Mich. · 2003 · confidence medium
The Sixth Circuit again rejected this argument, however, stating memorably that “[t]he freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution cannot depend upon the fanciful perceptions of some hypothetical dolt.” 30 F.3d at 679.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Barden Detroit Casino, L.L.C., a Michigan Limited Liability Company v. The City of Detroit
6th Cir. · 2000 · confidence medium
Pinette clearly holds that although the denial of an injunction is normally reviewed under an abuse-of-discretion standard, a different standard applies when “the district court combined the hearing on the injunction with a trial on the merits under Fed.R.Civ.P. 65(a)(2);” in that situation we “review the district court’s findings of fact for clear error under Fed.R.Civ.P. 52 and its conclusions of law de novo.” Pinette, 30 F.3d at 677.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Tatton v. City of Cuyahoga Falls
N.D. Ohio · 2000 · confidence medium
The First Amendment provides that “Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech.... ” Thus, “[without a compelling interest, the government may not discriminate against private speech in a public forum on account of the speaker’s views.” Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board, 30 F.3d 675, 677 (6th Cir.1994); see also Carey v. Brown, 447 U.S. 455, 461-62 , 100 S.Ct. 2286 , 65 L.Ed.2d 263 (1980); Police Dep’t of Chicago v. Mosley, 408 U.S. 92 , 96, 92 S.Ct. 2286 , 33 L.Ed.2d 212 (1972); Niemotko v. Maryland, 340 U.S. 268, 271-72 , 71 S.Ct. 325 , 95 L.E…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Grider v. Abramson
6th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
However, a well established exception to the mootness doctrine permits the adjudication of an otherwise moot controversy which is "capable of repetition yet evading review." Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board, 30 F.3d 675, 677 (6th Cir.1994), aff'd, 515 U.S. 753 , 115 S.Ct. 2440 , 132 L.Ed.2d 650 (1995); Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Invisible Empire v. District of Columbia, 972 F.2d 365, 369-70 (D.C.Cir.1992). 15 In the case sub judice, the Klan advised the Louisville police of its demonstration plans only one month prior to the event, and the Unity Rally organizers a…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Grider v. Abramson
6th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
However, a well established exception to the mootness doctrine permits the adjudication of an otherwise moot controversy which is “capable of repetition yet evading review.” Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board, 30 F.3d 675, 677 (6th Cir.1994), aff 'd, 515 U.S. 753 , 115 S.Ct. 2440 , 132 L.Ed.2d 650 (1995); Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Invisible Empire v. District of Columbia, 972 F.2d 365, 369-70 (D.C.Cir.1992).
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6th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
See Americans United for Separation of Church and State v. City of Grand Rapids, 980 F.2d 1538, 1542-45 (6th Cir.1992) (en banc ) (applying the endorsement test as a clarification of the second part of the Lemon test); American Civil Liberties Union v. City of Birmingham, 791 F.2d 1561, 1563 (6th Cir.1986) (applying the endorsement test as a refinement of the first two parts of the Lemon test); American Civil Liberties Union of Ky. v. Wilkinson, 895 F.2d 1098, 1103, 1105 (6th Cir.1990) (applying the endorsement test on its own, without relating it to the Lemon test); Hawley v. City of Clevelan…
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6th Cir. · 1997 · confidence medium
Pinette, 30 F.3d at 678-79; Americans United, 980 F.2d at 1543-44 , If a reasonable observer would conclude that the message communicated is one of either endorsement or disapproval of religion, then the challenged practice is unlawful.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Chaudhuri v. State of Tennessee
6th Cir. · 1997 · confidence medium
Pinette, 30 F.3d at 678-79; Americans United, 980 F.2d at 1543-44 .
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Knight Riders Of The Ku Klux Klan v. City Of Cincinnati
6th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
The intervenor also argues that this court should uphold the ordinance as a content-based prohibition on oppressive and subordinating speech. 9 Plaintiffs respond that, as a matter of law, a free-standing Latin cross bearing the words "John 3:16" does not constitute fighting words, and that the ordinance is thus an unconstitutional content-based restriction on speech. 10 The District Court held that the cross did not constitute fighting words and ordered that plaintiffs be granted a permit to erect their cross. 2 We review this decision de novo, Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Knight Riders of the Ku Klux Klan v. City of Cincinnati
6th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
The District Court held that the cross did not constitute fighting words and ordered that plaintiffs be granted a permit to erect their cross. 2 We review this decision de novo, Pinette Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675, 677 (6th Cir.1994), aff'd, — U.S. -, 115 S.Ct. 2440 , 132 L.Ed.2d 650 (1995), and now affirm.
examined Cited as authority (rule) Capitol Square Review & Advisory Board v. Pinette (3×)
SCOTUS · 1995 · confidence medium
These strict standards apply here, since the District Court and the Court of Appeals found that Capitol Square was a traditional public forum. 844 F. Supp., at 1184 ; 30 F. 3d, at 678.
cited Cited "see" Michelle Bazzetta v. Kenneth McGinnis Director of Michigan Department of Corrections Michigan Department of Corrections
6th Cir. · 2005 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 , 678 (6th Cir.1994), aff'd, 515 U.S. 753 , 115 S.Ct. 2440 , 132 L.Ed.2d 650 (1995).
cited Cited "see" Bazzetta v. Caruso
6th Cir. · 2005 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 , 678 (6th Cir. 1994), aff’d, 515 U.S. 753 (1995).
cited Cited "see" Michelle Bazzetta v. Kenneth McGinnis Director of Michigan Department of Corrections Michigan Department of Corrections
6th Cir. · 2005 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 , 678 (6th Cir.1994), aff'd, 515 U.S. 753 , 115 S.Ct. 2440 , 132 L.Ed.2d 650 (1995).
cited Cited "see" Bazzetta v. McGinnis
6th Cir. · 2005 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 , 678 (6th Cir. 1994), aff’d, 515 U.S. 753 (1995).
cited Cited "see" Holly Gottfried v. Medical Planning Services, Inc. The Offices of Dr. Manohar Lal, M.D. Dr. Lal Summit County Sheriff Drew Alexander Judge Jane Bond
6th Cir. · 2002 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square *691 Review and Advisory Board, 30 F.3d 675, 677 (6th Cir.1994).
cited Cited "see" Grider v. Abramson
W.D. Ky. · 1998 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 (6th Cir. 1994). 5 .
cited Cited "see" Granzeier v. Middleton
E.D. Ky. · 1997 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 (6th Cir.1994) and Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 844 F.Supp. 1182 (S.D.Ohio 1993).
cited Cited "see" Knight Riders of the Ku Klux Klan v. City of Cincinnati
S.D. Ohio · 1994 · signal: see · confidence high
See Pinette, 30 F.3d at 678 .
discussed Cited "see, e.g." Pouillon v. Owosso, City Of
6th Cir. · 2000 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence low
See, e.g., Pinette v. stand for the flat proposition “that demonstrations on or near Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 (6th legislative grounds fall within the protection of the First Cir. 1994) (holding public square across from Ohio capitol Amendment,” as the District of Columbia District Court did building a public forum); Shiel v. United States, 515 A.2d 405 in Jeannette Rankin Brigade v. Chief of Capitol Police, 342 (D.C.
discussed Cited "see, e.g." James L. Pouillon v. City of Owosso Sergeant Sharon Little and Officer W. G. Blanchett
6th Cir. · 2000 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence low
See, e.g., Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Bd., 30 F.3d 675 (6th Cir.1994) (holding public square across from Ohio capítol building a public forum); Shiel v. United States, 515 A.2d 405 (D.C.Ct.App.1986) (holding the Capitol Rotunda might be closed early pri- or to President’s address there, but must be available to protestors during normal hours when open), cert. denied, 485 U.S. 1010 , 108 S.Ct. 1477 , 99 L.Ed.2d 706 (1988); Gaylor v. Thompson, 939 F.Supp. 1363 (W.D.Wis.1996) (Wisconsin state capí-tol rotunda a public forum, based on its traditional open use); ACT-UP v. Wal…
discussed Cited "see, e.g." Grossbaum v. Indianapolis-Marion County Building Authority
S.D. Ind. · 1994 · signal: compare · confidence low
Compare Congregation Lubavitch v. Cincinnati 923 F.2d 458 (6th Cir.1991) (plaintiffs entitled to place menorah in public square during Chanukah), with Pinette v. Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board, 30 F.3d 675 (6th Cir.1994) (Ku Klux Klan entitled to erect Latin cross in public square across from state capitol building).
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Vincent J. Pinette Donnie A. Carr Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
v.
Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board Ronald T. Keller Daniel Shellenbarger Richard H. Finan
93-4367.
Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.
Jul 25, 1994.
30 F.3d 675
Cited by 16 opinions  |  Published

30 F.3d 675

Vincent J. PINETTE; Donnie A. Carr; Knights of the Ku Klux
Klan, Plaintiffs-Appellees,
v.
CAPITOL SQUARE REVIEW AND ADVISORY BOARD; Ronald T. Keller;
Daniel Shellenbarger; Richard H. Finan,
Defendants-Appellants.

No. 93-4367.

United States Court of Appeals,
Sixth Circuit.

Argued June 21, 1994.
Decided July 25, 1994.

Benson A. Wolman (argued and briefed), David Goldberger, Moots, Cope & Stanton, Columbus, OH, for plaintiffs-appellees.

Andrew S. Bergman, Office of Atty. Gen., Andrew I. Sutter, Asst. Atty. Gen., Richard A. Cordray (argued and briefed), Office of Atty. Gen., Columbus, OH, for defendants-appellants.

Before: JONES and RYAN, Circuit Judges; and KRUPANSKY, Senior Circuit Judge.

RYAN, Circuit Judge.

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Does a private organization's display of a religious symbol in a public forum violate the Establishment Clause? We answered "No" in Americans United for Separation of Church & State v. Grand Rapids, 980 F.2d 1538 (6th Cir.1992) (en banc ), provided that there is equal access to the public forum and the display itself is truly private. Yet some doubt lingers, at least in the mind of the defendants in this case, as to when private religious speech violates the Establishment Clause.

2

The Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board appeals the district court's injunction ordering the board to grant Vincent J. Pinette and the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Ohio Realm, a permit to erect a wooden cross in Capitol Square, a public square in front of the state capitol building in Columbus, Ohio. Because Capitol Square is a public forum and the Klan's display of a Latin cross is private speech, a reasonable observer could not perceive the display at issue to be a government endorsement of religion. Therefore, we hold that the display does not violate the Establishment Clause and we affirm.

I.

3

Capitol Square is a ten-acre public square located in downtown Columbus, Ohio, and is owned by the State of Ohio. Ohio's state capitol building, the Statehouse, is located in Capitol Square along with other governmental office buildings. For more than a century, countless public gatherings and cultural festivals have been held in the square. During the holiday season, the square has been decorated with lights, a Christmas tree, and, in recent years, a menorah. The Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board, by virtue of Ohio Rev.Code Ann. Sec. 123.02.2, has the sole authority to regulate the various uses of the square.

4

On November 18, 1993, the board voted to ban unattended displays from the square during December 1993. The board, however, reversed its decision within a week following public outcry. A Christmas tree went up, and on November 29, 1993, the board granted a permit to erect a menorah on the square during the eight days of Chanukah. On that same day, November 29, Donnie A. Carr, the Columbus unit coordinator for the Ku Klux Klan, Ohio Realm, applied for a permit to erect a cross on the square from December 8 through December 24, 1993. On December 3, Ronald Keller, the executive director of the board, denied the Klan's application for a permit, stating in a letter that his decision "was made upon the advice of counsel, in a good faith attempt to comply with the Ohio and United States Constitutions, as they have been interpreted in relevant decisions by the Federal and State Courts." On December 9, the Klan appealed Keller's decision; an administrative hearing was held and the hearing officer issued a report and recommendation advising that the Klan's application for a permit be denied. The board subsequently adopted that recommendation. On December 17, the Klan, through Vincent Pinette, its chief executive officer, Ohio Realm, sought an injunction in federal district court requiring the board to issue the permit. The district court held a hearing on December 20, and on December 21, the district court granted the Klan's request for an injunction and ordered the board to issue the permit. The district court concluded that Capitol Square was a traditional public forum and the cross the Klan proposed to erect was protected speech. The district court reasoned that because a private party (not the government) sought to display a religious symbol in a public forum, a reasonable observer would not perceive the display to be an endorsement of religion and thus the Establishment Clause was not implicated.

5

After the district court issued the injunction, the board immediately moved for a stay pending appeal, which the district court denied. On December 21, the board appealed to this court and moved for an emergency stay pending the appeal, which we denied on December 22, 1993. The board then filed an emergency application for a stay of injunction with Supreme Court Associate Justice John Paul Stevens, our circuit justice, which he denied on December 23, 1993. --- U.S. ----, 114 S.Ct. 626, 126 L.Ed.2d 636 (Stevens, Circuit Justice 1993). Meanwhile, the Klan erected the cross on Capitol Square on the evening of December 21; the cross remained there for at least a day until it was vandalized.

II.

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Our jurisdiction, of course, depends upon the existence of an actual case or controversy. SEC v. Medical Comm. for Human Rights, 404 U.S. 403, 406, 92 S.Ct. 577, 579, 30 L.Ed.2d 560 (1972); Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227, 240-41, 57 S.Ct. 461, 463-64, 81 L.Ed. 617 (1937); see also U.S. Const. art. III, Sec. 2. At the outset, we acknowledge that events subsequent to our hearing oral argument in this appeal have rendered this case moot: the injunction at issue has already expired and the cross no longer stands in Capitol Square. Cf. Neighbors Organized to Insure a Sound Env't, Inc. v. McArtor, 878 F.2d 174, 178 (6th Cir.1989). However, in a case in which an injury is inherently of such short duration as to make judicial review largely impossible, and the injury is likely to recur, we do not dismiss the case for mootness. Weinstein v. Bradford, 423 U.S. 147, 149, 96 S.Ct. 347, 349, 46 L.Ed.2d 350 (1975). We think it likely that the Klan or some other organization will, in the future, seek access to Capitol Square, and there is every reason to believe that any future action involving the same parties and issues will take at least as long to wind its way through the legal system as this case has. See Rosen v. Brown, 970 F.2d 169, 173 (6th Cir.1992). Thus, we are satisfied that we may properly exercise jurisdiction over this case under the exception to the mootness doctrine for wrongs capable of repetition yet evading review.

7

Ordinarily we review a district court's grant or denial of an injunction for an abuse of discretion, Basicomputer Corp. v. Scott, 973 F.2d 507, 511 (6th Cir.1992), but here the district court combined the hearing on the injunction with a trial on the merits under Fed.R.Civ.P. 65(a)(2). Accordingly, we review the district court's findings of fact for clear error under Fed.R.Civ.P. 52 and its conclusions of law de novo.

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The United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech...." U.S. Const. amend. I. The Religion Clauses of the First Amendment apply to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment. Cruz v. Beto, 405 U.S. 319, 322, 92 S.Ct. 1079, 1081-82, 31 L.Ed.2d 263 (1972); Everson v. Board of Educ., 330 U.S. 1, 5, 67 S.Ct. 504, 506, 91 L.Ed. 711 (1947). Private religious speech is protected under the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses. Heffron v. International Soc'y for Krishna Consciousness, Inc., 452 U.S. 640, 647, 101 S.Ct. 2559, 2563-64, 69 L.Ed.2d 298 (1981). Without a compelling interest, the government may not discriminate against private speech in a public forum on account of the speaker's views. See, e.g., Carey v. Brown, 447 U.S. 455, 461-62, 100 S.Ct. 2286, 2290-91, 65 L.Ed.2d 263 (1980); Police Dep't of Chicago v. Mosley, 408 U.S. 92, 96, 92 S.Ct. 2286, 2290, 33 L.Ed.2d 212 (1972); Niemotko v. Maryland, 340 U.S. 268, 271-72, 71 S.Ct. 325, 327-28, 95 L.Ed. 267 (1951). Speakers with a religious message are entitled no less access to public forums than that afforded speakers whose message is secular or otherwise nonreligious. See, e.g., Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free Sch. Dist., --- U.S. ----, ----, 113 S.Ct. 2141, 2148, 124 L.Ed.2d 352 (1993); Board of Educ. of Westside Community Sch. v. Mergens, 496 U.S. 226, 248-49, 110 S.Ct. 2356, 2371, 110 L.Ed.2d 191 (1990); Widmar v. Vincent, 454 U.S. 263, 267 n. 5, 274-75, 102 S.Ct. 269, 273 n. 5, 277, 70 L.Ed.2d 440 (1981); Niemotko, 340 U.S. at 271-72, 71 S.Ct. at 327; Americans United, 980 F.2d at 1553; Doe v. Small, 964 F.2d 611, 629 (7th Cir.1992) (Easterbrook, J., concurring). Finally, we must keep in mind that "there is a crucial difference between government speech endorsing religion, which the Establishment Clause forbids, and private speech endorsing religion, which the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses protect." Mergens, 496 U.S. at 250, 110 S.Ct. at 2372.

9

Capitol Square is, indeed, a traditional public forum. Over the years, groups as divergent as the Ku Klux Klan and the United Way have held rallies and sponsored speeches in the square. During the holiday season, a menorah and a Christmas tree have been displayed on the square.

10

In places which by long tradition or by government fiat have been devoted to assembly and debate, the rights of the State to limit expressive activity are sharply circumscribed. At one end of the spectrum are streets and parks which "have immemorially been held in trust for the use of the public and, time out of mind, have been used for purposes of assembly, communicating thoughts between citizens, and discussing public questions." Hague v. CIO, 307 U.S. 496, 515 [59 S.Ct. 954, 964, 83 L.Ed. 1423] (1939). In these quintessential public forums, the government may not prohibit all communicative activity. For the State to enforce a content-based exclusion it must show that its regulation is necessary to serve a compelling state interest and that it is narrowly drawn to achieve that end. Carey [, 447 U.S. at 461, 100 S.Ct. at 2290].

11

Perry Educ. Ass'n v. Perry Local Educators' Ass'n, 460 U.S. 37, 45, 103 S.Ct. 948, 954-55, 74 L.Ed.2d 794 (1983) (parallel citations omitted). As the Supreme Court observed in International Soc'y for Krishna Consciousness, Inc. v. Lee, --- U.S. ----, ----, 112 S.Ct. 2701, 2705, 120 L.Ed.2d 541 (1992), "regulation of speech on government property that has traditionally been available for public expression is subject to the highest scrutiny." The Klan is entitled to the full protection of the public forum doctrine, even though it seeks to erect a cross rather than sponsor a speech. The Constitution protects any conduct that may be "sufficiently imbued with elements of communication to fall within the scope of the First and Fourteenth Amendments." Spence v. Washington, 418 U.S. 405, 409, 94 S.Ct. 2727, 2730, 41 L.Ed.2d 842 (1974) (per curiam ).

12

The district court held that the Klan's plan to erect a cross in the square did not violate the Establishment Clause because a reasonable observer would not construe the display, sponsored by a private party and accompanied by a sign disclaiming governmental sponsorship, as an endorsement of religion. The defendants argue that the district court erred because (1) a cross is a powerfully religious symbol that cannot be "sanitized" through the ameliorating secular gloss associated with the Christmas holiday; and (2) the location of this distinctly religious display in front of the Ohio Statehouse and on Capitol Square would lead a reasonable observer to conclude that the State of Ohio endorsed Christianity. Until today, we had not thought that there would be any circumstances under which it could seriously be argued that the United States Constitution requires that religious speech be "sanitized."

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For a government display of a religious symbol to pass constitutional muster, the display must: 1) have a secular purpose; 2) neither advance nor inhibit religion in its principal or primary effect; and 3) "not foster 'an excessive entanglement with religion.' " Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602, 612-13, 91 S.Ct. 2105, 2111, 29 L.Ed.2d 745 (1971) (quoting Walz v. Tax Comm'n, 397 U.S. 664, 674, 90 S.Ct. 1409, 1414, 25 L.Ed.2d 697 (1970)). The Lemon test has subsequently been refined to ask whether a reasonable observer would view the disputed display as a government endorsement of religion. See Lynch v. Donnelly, 465 U.S. 668, 687-94, 104 S.Ct. 1355, 1366-70, 79 L.Ed.2d 604 (1984) (O'Connor, J., concurring); see also County of Allegheny v. ACLU, 492 U.S. 573, 593, 109 S.Ct. 3086, 3100-01, 106 L.Ed.2d 472 (1989). Of course, the display at issue here is not a government sponsored display; it is, in fact, privately funded and privately maintained, and carries an express disclaimer of any government support.

14

We have held that a private organization's unattended display of a religious symbol in a public forum does not violate the Establishment Clause. Americans United, 980 F.2d at 1553. In Americans United, we considered the constitutionality of a menorah displayed in a public square in Grand Rapids, Michigan. We acknowledged in that case that several aspects of the display arguably intimated government endorsement of religion: the display was undoubtedly religious; it stood in close proximity to official governmental buildings; and the display did not contain secular symbols. But we held that:

15

[T]wo crucial facts make this case very different from many holiday display cases: [the] display is privately sponsored, and it stands in a traditional public forum to which all citizens have equal access. Although these facts are not automatically determinative, recent precedent indicates that they should carry much more weight than the details of the display emphasized by the plaintiffs.

16

Id. at 1545.

17

To silence a speaker in a public forum, the state must have a compelling interest, Perry, 460 U.S. at 45, 103 S.Ct. at 954-55, 74 L.Ed.2d 794; defendants claim the compelling interest here is not violating the Establishment Clause. A reasonable observer, defendants argue, would conclude that Ohio endorsed Christianity after viewing a cross standing in front of the Statehouse in Capitol Square. The defendants concede that the Klan's cross is private speech but they fear that some uninformed observer will come upon Capitol Square, and, on seeing the cross in front of the Statehouse, will draw the opposite conclusion--despite the fact that the cross carries a disclaimer of any government support.

18

The freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution cannot depend upon the fanciful perceptions of some hypothetical dolt. The obvious analogy is to the problem of the "Heckler's Veto" so eloquently discussed by Professor Kalven. Harry Kalven Jr., The Negro and the First Amendment 140-60 (1965). As we observed in Americans United:

19

We believe that the plaintiffs' argument presents a new threat to religious speech in the concept of the "Ignoramus's Veto." The Ignoramus's Veto lies in the hands of those determined to see an endorsement of religion, even though a reasonable person, and any minimally informed person, knows that no endorsement is intended, or conveyed, by adherence to the traditional public forum doctrine.

20

980 F.2d at 1553. Similarly, Judge Easterbrook has written: "If hecklers cannot silence political speech in a public forum, obtuse observers cannot silence religious speech in a public forum." Small, 964 F.2d at 630 (Easterbrook, J., concurring). In short, the Establishment Clause forbids only religious speech sponsored by the government, so "truly private religious expression in a truly public forum cannot be seen as endorsement by a reasonable observer." Americans United, 980 F.2d at 1553.

21

Defendants argue that this is one of those rare cases, analogous to County of Allegheny, 492 U.S. 573, 109 S.Ct. 3086, where private religious speech can violate the Establishment Clause. In County of Allegheny, however, the religious display--a privately sponsored holiday creche--was placed on a ceremonial staircase inside the Allegheny County Courthouse. In enjoining the display, the Court noted that the "Grand Staircase" was not the "kind of location in which all were free to place their displays for weeks at a time." Id. at 600 n. 50, 109 S.Ct. at 3104 n. 50. Clearly, the staircase was not a public forum. By allowing the display to be placed in a privileged location, the county endorsed it. In contrast, Capitol Square in Columbus is open to anyone, and there is no indication that Ohio treated the Klan or its display favorably.

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Defendants also rely on three cases from the Seventh Circuit for the proposition that private religious speech can violate the Establishment Clause. In ACLU v. St. Charles, 794 F.2d 265 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 479 U.S. 961, 107 S.Ct. 458, 93 L.Ed.2d 403 (1986), the Seventh Circuit enjoined the display of a lighted cross on a public building, a firehouse. The case is easily distinguished: the side of a public building, like a ceremonial staircase in a county courthouse, is not a public forum. By affording the religious speaker such an exclusive location from which to announce his message, the government "endorsed" or impermissibly supported a particular religious message. In Gonzales v. North Township of Lake County, 4 F.3d 1412 (7th Cir.1993), the Seventh Circuit enjoined a permanent display of a crucifix in a public park. In that case, however, the crucifix was part of a war memorial that was donated to the township by the Knights of Columbus, id. at 1421, so the display in effect became governmental religious speech. Finally, defendants point to language in Small, 964 F.2d at 619:

23

Moreover, the mere presence of religious symbols in a public forum does not violate the Establishment Clause, since the government is not presumed to endorse every speaker that it fails to censor in a quintessential public forum far removed from the seat of government.

24

Defendants make much of the "far removed from the seat of government" language--indeed, too much. The undisputed holding of Small is that private religious speech in a public forum does not violate the Establishment Clause. Id. The fact that the park which was home to the disputed display in Small was "far removed from the seat of government" was little more than a gratuitous observation offered to bolster the court's conclusion that the park was, in fact, a true public forum unlike the ceremonial staircase in County of Allegheny and the side of the firehouse in St. Charles.

25

Religious groups may not be selectively denied access to public forums in the name of the Establishment Clause; the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses prohibit this. Lamb's Chapel, --- U.S. at ---- - ----, 113 S.Ct. at 2147-48; Mergens, 496 U.S. at 248-49, 110 S.Ct. at 2370-71; Widmar, 454 U.S. at 274-75, 102 S.Ct. at 277. The potency of religious speech is not a constitutional infirmity; the most fervently devotional and blatantly sectarian speech is protected when it is private speech in a public forum. Zealots have First Amendment rights too. Some speech may be distasteful, unpopular, and outright offensive, but as Justice Thurgood Marshall so persuasively wrote, the protection found in the First Amendment does not depend upon popular opinion:

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Necessarily, then, under the Equal Protection Clause, not to mention the First Amendment itself, government may not grant the use of a forum to people whose views it finds acceptable, but deny use to those wishing to express less favored or more controversial views. And it may not select which issues are worth discussing or debating in public facilities. There is an "equality of status in the field of ideas," and government must afford all points of view an equal opportunity to be heard. Once a forum is opened up to assembly or speaking by some groups, government may not prohibit others from assembling or speaking on the basis of what they intend to say. Selective exclusions from a public forum may not be based on content alone, and may not be justified by reference to content alone.

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Mosley, 408 U.S. at 96, 92 S.Ct. at 2290 (footnote omitted). The constitutional command of governmental neutrality and even-handedness in regulating the public forum is no less binding in the case of private religious speech. In a public forum, the religious content of private speech is absolutely irrelevant for First Amendment purposes.

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Accordingly, we AFFIRM.