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“officer fabry's written statement supports the finding of guilt that an attempt was made by inmate saenz to commit battery upon the inmate.”
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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Minniefield v. Osburn (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
7th Cir. · 2009 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
all that the committee would have had to say here was that it believed the conduct report, or specific parts of it ...
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Randall Minniefield v. Bruce Lemmon
7th Cir. · 2009 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
all that the committee would have had to say here was that it believed the conduct report, or specific parts of it . . .
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Minniefield v. Osburn (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
7th Cir. · 2009 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
all that the committee would have had to say here was that it believed the conduct report, or specific parts of it ...
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Aaron B. Scruggs v. D. Bruce Jordan (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
7th Cir. · 2007 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
officer fabry's written statement supports the finding of guilt that an attempt was made by inmate saenz to commit battery upon the inmate.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Austin v. Jeffreys
Ill. App. Ct. · 2024 · confidence medium
Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987) (“Obviously, therefore, the committee believed the conduct report and disbelieved the plaintiff.
cited Cited as authority (rule) FELLOWS v. PRETORIUS
S.D. Ind. · 2024 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) EVANS v. REAGLE
S.D. Ind. · 2024 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) WEBB v. MIAMI CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
S.D. Ind. · 2024 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) SPENCER v. REAGLE
S.D. Ind. · 2023 · confidence medium
The requirement serves two purposes: (1) to ensure that "prisoners are not subjected through sloppy procedures to an undue risk of being disciplined for things they have not actually done" and (2) to allow appeals officers and reviewing courts to determine "whether the evidence before the [hearing officer] was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner's misconduct." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) BERRY v. ATTORNEY GENERAL
S.D. Ind. · 2023 · confidence medium
But "[o]rdinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) STACY v. WATSON
S.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Barnes v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Taboada v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Pannell v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dugan v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Knowles v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Holsinger v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Taylor v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dodd v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Johnson v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
However, Johnson’s attempted removal of clothing containing contraband as he anticipated being searched is not exculpatory. concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) ICE v. SUPERINTENDENT
S.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
"As there is no mystery about [the hearing officer's] reasoning process, despite the extreme brevity of [his] statement of reasons, that statement is not so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Hunter v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Gray v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dodd v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) TAYLOR v. BROWN
S.D. Ind. · 2021 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily, a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Lowder v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) MAXWELL v. SUPERINTENDENT
S.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
But "[o]rdinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) TAYLOR v. HYHETTE
S.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) TAYLOR v. WARDEN
S.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
"Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Wright v. Butler (2×)
S.D. Ill. · 2020 · confidence medium
Scruggs, 485 F. 3d at 941 (citing Chavis v. Rowe, 643 F.2d 1281, 1287 (7th Cir. 1981); Forbes, 976 F.2d at 318 ; Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1173-74 (7th Cir. 1987)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Pierce v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Webb v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987). “[T]he inmate facing disciplinary proceedings should be allowed to call witnesses and present documentary evidence.” Wolff v. McDonnell, 418 U.S. 539, 566 (1974).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Thompson v. Warden
N.D. Ind. · 2019 · confidence medium
“A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
examined Cited as authority (rule) Huber v. State, Dept. of Corrections (4×) also: Cited "see"
Alaska · 2018 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
Cf. Saenz , 811 F.2d at 1174 (characterizing a disciplinary tribunal's statement that its decision was "based on all evidence" or "all evidence presented" as "the antithesis of specifying the evidence relied on"). 22 AAC 05.475(a)(3).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Arce v. Indiana Parole Board
7th Cir. · 2015 · confidence medium
And when “there is no mystery” about the decision maker’s reasoning process, even a written statement of “extreme brevity” will not be “so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Calligan v. Wilson
7th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
See Wolff, 418 U.S. at 565 , 94 S.Ct. 2963 ; Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Edwin Calligan v. Bill Wilson
7th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
See Wolff, 418 U.S. at 565 ; Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Calligan v. Wilson
7th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
See Wolff, 418 U.S. at 565 , 94 S.Ct. 2963 ; Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jemison, Edward E. v. Knight, Stanley
7th Cir. · 2007 · confidence medium
See Culbert v. Young, 834 F.2d 624, 631 (7th Cir.1987) (finding brief statement from disciplinary board sufficient when only issue was relative credibility of prison guard and prisoner); Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1173-74 (7th Cir. 1987) (same).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Scruggs, Aaron v. Jordan, D. Bruce
7th Cir. · 2007 · confidence medium
See, e.g., Pardo v. Hosier, 946 F.2d 1278, 1284 (7th Cir. 1991); Culbert v. Young, 834 F.2d 624, 629 (7th No. 05-4238 9 Cir. 1987); Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1173-74 (7th Cir. 1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) McAtee, Ronnie L. v. Uchtman, Alan (2×)
7th Cir. · 2006 · confidence medium
In Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987), we observed that the deficiency with the hearing in Redding was that the committee explained that it relied on “all evidence,” which was effectively the same as no explanation at all.
cited Cited as authority (rule) State v. McCaughtry
Wis. Ct. App. · 2004 · confidence medium
Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987).
examined Cited as authority (rule) Ard v. Hanks (5×) also: Cited "see", Cited "see, e.g."
7th Cir. · 2003 · confidence medium
The respondent Hanks counters that while this case might superficially resemble Redding , our more recent decisions in Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987), and Culbert v. Young, 834 F.2d 624, 630-31 (7th Cir.1987), actually control.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Godby v. Hanks
7th Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
See Forbes v. Trigg, 976 F.2d 308, 318 (7th Cir.1992) (statement acceptable if it provides inmate with grounds for decision and essential facts supporting inferences) (citation and internal quotations omitted); Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987) (extremely brief statement of reasons constitutionally sufficient where “no mystery” surrounded board’s reasoning).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Schlomer v. Davis
7th Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
See Pardo v. Hosier, 946 F.2d 1278, 1285 (7th Cir.1991); Culbert v. Young, 834 F.2d 624, 631 (7th Cir.1987); Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Shipp v. Deuth
7th Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
The CAB’s statement shows that the Board credited the lab results and conduct report over Mr. Shipp’s statement: because there is “no mystery about [the board’s] reasoning process, despite the extreme brevity of its statement of reasons, that statement is not so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rodney Francis King v. Larry Fields Delores Ramsey John Middleton David Arneecher
10th Cir. · 1998 · confidence medium
As the Seventh Circuit said in a similar situation, "there is no mystery about [the factfinder's] reasoning process, despite the extreme brevity of its statement of reasons, [and] that statement is not so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude." Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987); see also Brown v. Frey, 807 F.2d 1407, 1412 (8th Cir.1986). 5 We also reject plaintiff's contention that the statement of reasons was inadequate because it failed to explain why the factfinder found the correctional officer more credible than plaintiff, as plaintiff contends is requi…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) King v. Fields
10th Cir. · 1998 · confidence medium
As the Seventh Circuit said in a similar situation, “there is no mystery about [the factfinder’s] reasoning process, despite the extreme brevity of its statement of reasons, [and] that statement is not so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude.” Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir. 1987); see also Brown v. Frey, 807 F.2d 1407, 1412 (8th Cir. 1986).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Johnny May v. Christopher Meloy
7th Cir. · 1997 · confidence medium
In such a straightforward situation, the disciplinary committee is entitled to " 'believe[ ] the conduct report and disbelieve[ ] the [prisoner].' " Id. (quoting Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987)); see also Pardo v. Hosier, 946 F.2d 1278, 1285 (7th Cir.1991). 11 The judgment is AFFIRMED. * After an examination of the briefs and the record, we have concluded that oral argument is unnecessary; accordingly, the appeal is submitted on the briefs and the record.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Leon Thomas v. Herbert Newkirk
7th Cir. · 1996 · confidence medium
See Forbes v. Trigg, 976 F.2d 308, 319 (7th Cir.1992), cert. denied, 507 U.S. 950 (1993); Saenz v. Young, 811 F.2d 1172, 1174 (7th Cir.1987) ("As there is no mystery about [the CAB's] reasoning process, despite the extreme brevity of its statement of reasons, that statement is not so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude.").
Jerry SAENZ, Plaintiff-Appellant,
v.
Warren YOUNG, Defendant-Appellee
86-1267.
Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.
Feb 19, 1987.
811 F.2d 1172
Jerry Saenz, Waupun, Wis., for plaintiff-appellant., Steven F. Gruel, Lee, Johnson, Kilkelly & Nichol, S.C., Madison, Wis., for defendantappellee.
Posner, Flaum, Manion.
Cited by 94 opinions  |  Published
POSNER, Circuit Judge.

This suit for damages, brought by a state prisoner against his warden under section 1 of the Civil Rights Act of 1871, now 42 U.S.C. § 1983, charges procedural irregularities in disciplinary proceedings against the plaintiff. The suit was dismissed on the defendant’s motion for summary judgment and the plaintiff appeals. Only one issue merits discussion in a published opinion; the others are being disposed of in an unpublished order also issued today. That issue relates to a conduct report which charged the plaintiff with attempted battery and disruptive conduct. A prison disciplinary committee found him guilty of attempted battery and imposed discipline, which the warden approved. The issue is whether the committee gave a constitutionally adequate statement of the evidentiary basis for its finding.

The conduct report, filled out and signed by a correctional officer, stated that the officer had seen the plaintiff throw a cup of hot coffee, then a cup of some other liquid, followed by a carton of milk, at another inmate, and then spit twice in that inmate’s face. The report said that another officer (whom the report names) had also seen the incident. The disciplinary committee noted that at the hearing before the committee the plaintiff had denied that the incident had taken place and had said that he didn’t know whom he was supposed to have attacked. The committee also noted that the plaintiff’s lay advocate (“jailhouse lawyer”) had remarked that it seemed highly unlikely anyone would stand around long enough for all these things to happen. The committee then stated simply: “Officer Fabry’s written statement supports the finding of guilt that an attempt was made by Inmate Saenz to commit battery upon the [other] inmate.” That is the only statement of the grounds of the committee’s decision and the plaintiff argues that it is not detailed enough to satis[*1174] fy the requirements of due process of law. He has waived any argument that he was denied the right to call witnesses or confront his accusers, by not raising these issues in the district court.

A prison disciplinary committee is required to give a brief statement of the evidentiary basis for its decision to administer discipline, so that a reviewing court, parole authorities, etc. can determine whether the evidence before the committee was adequate to support its findings concerning the nature and gravity of the prisoner’s misconduct. Wolff v. McDonnell, 418 U.S. 539, 564-65, 94 S.Ct. 2963, 2978-79, 41 L.Ed.2d 935 (1974). Ordinarily a mere conclusion that the prisoner is guilty will not satisfy this requirement. See Hayes v. Thompson, 637 F.2d 483, 492 (7th Cir.1980); Chavis v. Rowe, 643 F.2d 1281, 1283, 1287, 1289 (7th Cir.1981); Redding v. Fairman, 717 F.2d 1105, 1114-15 (7th Cir.1983); Akbar v. Fairman, 788 F.2d 1273, 1275-76 (7th Cir.1986); but see Brown v. Frey, 807 F.2d 1407 (8th Cir.1986). But in all of our previous cases, except Redding, either the charge or the evidence was much more complicated than here; in Hayes for example the prisoner was charged with having organized a conspiracy to mutiny against the prison authorities. See 637 F.2d at 484-85. Where the charge is complex and the committee fails to explain its findings, the reviewing court will find it difficult and maybe impossible to determine whether the committee on the one hand found facts showing that the prisoner really was guilty of the charge, or on the other hand based the finding of guilt on erroneous legal premises. In Redding the charge was simple enough but the court was troubled by use of the rote phrase “based on all evidence” (or “all evidence presented”) to introduce the committee’s conclusion. See 717 F.2d at 1115. Such a formula, not found in the present case, is the antithesis of specifying the evidence relied on.

Here it is plain that the committee relied on the reporting officer’s eyewitness account. Either the plaintiff threw the coffee and did the other things recited in the conduct report, and was guilty of battery, or he didn’t do those things, and was not. Obviously, therefore, the committee believed the conduct report and disbelieved the plaintiff. As there is no mystery about its reasoning process, despite the extreme brevity of its statement of reasons, that statement is not so deficient as to create error of constitutional magnitude. See Brown v. Frey, supra; King v. Wells, 760 F.2d 89, 94 (6th Cir.1985); Dyson v. Kocik, 689 F.2d 466, 468 (3d Cir.1982) (dictum).

We do not say it would be prudent and acceptable for prison disciplinary committees to divide their cases into the simple and the complex, and give reasons only in the latter. It would not be. The law of prisoners’ rights is complicated enough without such a distinction, which anyway can never be precise because there is no sharp line between the simple and the complex. The prudent committee will give a statement of reasons in every case, rather than invite a lawsuit that it may lose if the court disagrees with where the committee drew the line. All that the committee would have had to say here was that it believed the conduct report, or specific parts of it, and disbelieved the prisoner; and we trust that in future cases prison disciplinary committees will do that and head off the type of dispute that has arisen in this case. But we do not think the omission of the statement violated the Constitution. A statement of reasons has no particular value in itself. It is instrumental to the goal of making sure that prisoners are not subjected through sloppy procedures to an undue risk of being disciplined for things they have not actually done. As that risk did not materialize here, we find no denial of due process — but we warn the prison authorities that they act at their peril in failing to state the reasons for administering discipline.

Affirmed.