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“as far as federal law is concerned, moreover, we are not persuaded that we ought to evaluate the transactions at issue here solely from the standpoint of creditors.”
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as far as federal law is concerned, moreover, we are not persuaded that we ought to evaluate the transactions at issue here solely from the standpoint of creditors.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Troy Blackford Vs. Prairie Meadows Racetrack And Casino, Inc.
Iowa · 2010 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
where gambling is lawful . . . the placing of a bet gives rise to legally enforceable contract rights.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Elkhorn Goldfields, Inc. v. Kapila (2×)
M.D. Fla. · 2025 · confidence medium
In determining that casino gambling is “for reasonably equivalent value,” the Sixth Circuit reasoned that casino transactions are at arm’s length, deeply regulated by the government, exist in an open competitive marketplace, and “the house advantage is only one percent or less.” Id. at 771.
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E.D. Ky. · 2022 · confidence medium
App’x at 534 (citing In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir. 1995) (emphasis added)).
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6th Cir. · 2020 · confidence medium
In determining whether the transferor received “reasonably equivalent value,” the “critical time is when the transfer is made.” Osborne, 807 F. App’x at 520-21 (quoting In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir. 1995) (internal quotation marks omitted) (citation omitted)).
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6th Cir. · 2020 · confidence medium
Although the FDCPA does not expressly provide the date on which a property’s value is to be measured, we have held that in determining whether “reasonably equivalent value” was given to a transferor under the -13- Nos. 17-4045/17-4047/19-3182, United States v. Osborne, et al. analogous Michigan Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act,7 “the critical time is when the transfer is ‘made.’” In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir. 1995) (quoting In re Morris Commc’ns NC, Inc., 914 F.2d 458 , 466 (4th Cir. 1990)); accord Valley City Steel, LLC v. Liverpool Coil Processing, Inc., 336 F.…
examined Cited as authority (rule) Stephen Swirple v. Mgm Grand Detroit LLC (9×) also: Cited "see"
Mich. Ct. App. · 2020 · confidence medium
Chomakos, 69 F3d at 769.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Redmond v. SpiritBank (In re Brooke Corp.)
Bankr. D. Kan. · 2015 · confidence medium
Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995). .
cited Cited as authority (rule) Ralph Janvey v. Golf Channel, Incorporated
5th Cir. · 2015 · confidence medium
In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Tabas v. Lehman (In re Capitol Investments, Inc.)
Bankr. S.D. Florida · 2012 · confidence medium
These rights constitute ‘property’.... ” 69 F.3d at 771 (emphasis added).
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S.D. Fla. · 2011 · confidence medium
Id. at 151 (citing Chomakos, 69 F.3d at 771 (gambling losses conferred value on debtor); Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 6 F.3d at 1119 (money spent in failed attempt to keep commuter airline afloat conferred value on debtor)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Webb Mtn, LLC v. Executive Realty Partnership, L.P. (In Re Webb Mtn, LLC)
Bankr. E.D. Tenn. · 2009 · confidence medium
(In re Calvillo), 263 B.R. 214, 220 (W.D.Tex.2000), and “the contractual right to receive payment in the event that it turns out well is obviously worth something.” Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Valley City Steel, LLC v. Liverpool Coil Processing, Inc. (2×) also: Cited "see"
6th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Webb Mtn, LLC v. Executive Realty Partnership (In Re Webb Mtn, LLC)
Bankr. E.D. Tenn. · 2009 · confidence medium
Clearly, “the contractual right to receive payment in the event that it turns out well is obviously worth something.” Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re *355 Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Brennan v. Slone
6th Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
Chomakos v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Pereira v. Wells Fargo Bank, N.A. (In Re Gonzalez)
Bankr. S.D.N.Y. · 2006 · confidence medium
In Christians v. Crystal Evangelical Free Church (In re Young), 82 F.3d 1407, 1415 (8th Cir.1996), vacated, 521 U.S. 1114 , 117 S.Ct. 2502 , 138 L.Ed.2d 1007 (1997), reaff'd, 141 F.3d 854 (8th Cir.1998), the Circuit Court rejected the approach of the Bankruptcy Court, agreeing with the Dis *174 trict Court that “the Bankruptcy Court over-emphasized the financial or economic considerations in defining ‘value’ under § 548,” and it noted with approval that “the district court required only that the indirect economic benefit be ‘fairly concrete.’ ” Similarly, in Allard v. Flamingo…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Martin
S.D.N.Y. · 2006 · confidence medium
In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir.1995)(evaluating whether a wager was a “fraudulent conveyance” under the Bankruptcy Code or the Uniform Fraudulent Conveyance Act and holding that there was a reasonable equivalence between the economic value of a gambling bet and the value of the money wagered, such that property transfer could not be undone by bankruptcy trustee as a fraudulent conveyance).
examined Cited as authority (rule) Frank v. Kiesel (In re Denison) (5×) also: Cited "see"
E.D. Mich. · 2003 · confidence medium
Id. at 771-72.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) J Swaggart Mnstry v. Hayes
5th Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
See Fairchild, 6 F.3d 1126 -27; In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir. 1995); see also 5 COLLIER ON BANKRUPTCY ¶548.02[2]. 12 Third, and critically, Hays’s position would subvert the defensive character of § 548(c), a clause specifically designed to protect transferees, not transferors. 5 COLLIER ON BANKRUPTCY ¶548.07.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jimmy Swaggart Ministries v. Hayes
5th Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
See Fairchild, 6 F.3d at 1126-27 ; In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir.1995); see also 5 Collier on Bankruptcy ¶ 548.02[2], Third, and critically, Hays’s position would subvert the defensive character of § 548(c), a clause specifically designed to protect transferees, not transferors. 5 Collier on Bankruptcy ¶ 548.07.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Fisher v. Las Vegas Hilton Corp.
9th Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
As one of our sister circuits has put it well, when a patron gambles he pays money for a “contractual right to receive payment in the event that [the bet] turns out well.” In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir.1995) (discussing whether transfers at a casino are voidable under Michigan’s version of the UFTA).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Dumas v. Major League Baseball Properties, Inc.
S.D. Cal. · 2000 · confidence medium
They paid for a pack of cards which included a bona fide “chance to win.” See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Rodriquez v. Topps Co., Inc.
S.D. Cal. · 2000 · confidence medium
They paid for a pack of cards which included a bona fide “chance to win.” See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Schwartz v. Upper Deck Co.
S.D. Cal. · 2000 · confidence medium
They paid for a pack of cards which included a bona fide “chance to win.” See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Condor One, Inc. v. Homestead Partners, Ltd. (In Re Homestead Partners, Ltd.)
Bankr. N.D. Ga. · 1996 · confidence medium
Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995) (courts must determine the value given in return for a § 548 transfer or obligation at the point it is “incurred”); Bustamante v. Johnson (In re McConnell), 934 F.2d 662, 665 (5th Cir.1991) (reasonableness of value measured at time of the transfer or obligation’s inception); Cooper v. Ashley Communications, Inc. (In re Morris Communications NC, Inc.), 914 F.2d 458, 466 (4th Cir.1990) (point for examining whether debtor-transferor received reasonably equivalent value is date that transfer or obligation arose).
examined Cited as authority (rule) In Re: RML Inc (3×) also: Cited "see"
3rd Cir. · 1996 · confidence medium
Such an unduly restrictive approach to reasonably equivalent value has been soundly rejected by other courts, Chomakos, 69 F.3d at 771 (gambling losses conferred value on debtor); Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 6 F.3d at 1119 (money spent in failed attempt to keep commuter airline afloat conferred value on debtor), and with good reason.
examined Cited as authority (rule) Mellon Bank, N.A. v. Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors of R.M.L., Inc. (In re R.M.L. Inc.) (4×) also: Cited "see", Cited "see, e.g."
3rd Cir. · 1996 · confidence medium
Such an unduly restrictive approach to reasonably equivalent value has been soundly rejected by other courts, Chomakos, 69 F.3d at 771 (gambling losses conferred value on debtor); Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 6 F.3d at 1119 (money spent in failed attempt to keep commuter airline afloat conferred value on debt- or), and with good reason.
examined Cited as authority (rule) In Re Inc. (3×) also: Cited "see", Cited "see, e.g."
3rd Cir. · 1996 · confidence medium
Such an unduly restrictive approach to reasonably equivalent value has been soundly rejected by other courts, Chomakos, 69 F.3d at 771 (gambling losses conferred value on debtor); Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 6 F.3d at 1119 (money spent in failed attempt to keep commuter airline afloat conferred value on debtor), and with good reason.
discussed Cited "see" In Re: Liberty Bridge Capital Management GP, LLC
S.D.N.Y. · 2025 · signal: see · confidence high
See In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir. 1995) (explaining that “the contractual right to receive payment in the event that [the bet] turns out well” has economic value); see also In re R.M.L., Inc., 92 F.3d 139, 152 (3d Cir. 1996) (“[S]o long as there is some chance that a contemplated investment will generate a positive return at the time of the disputed transfer, we will find that value has been conferred.”); see also Ire Hannover Corp., 310 F.3d 796, 802 (5th Cir. 2002)(“[C]onsistent with economic reality, this and other circuits unequivocally hold that for purposes of § 5…
cited Cited "see" Wells v. Salmo (In re Select One, Inc.)
Bankr. E.D. Mich. · 2013 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir.1995) (applying a prior version of the Act, which required “fair consideration”).
discussed Cited "see" Onkyo Europe Electronics v. Global Technovations Inc
6th Cir. · 2012 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769 , 770–71 (6th Cir. 1995) (stating that the “critical time” for determining whether reasonable equivalent value was given is when “the transfer is made”).
discussed Cited "see" Onkyo Europe Electronics GMBH v. Global Technovations Inc. (In Re Global Technovations Inc.)
6th Cir. · 2012 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995) (stating that the “critical time” for determining whether reasonable equivalent value was given is when “the transfer is made”).
cited Cited "see" White v. Coyne, Schultz, Becker & Bauer, S.C. (In re Pawlak)
Bankr. W.D. Wis. · 2012 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995).
cited Cited "see" Charles Lisle v. John Wiley & Sons In
6th Cir. · 2006 · signal: see · confidence high
See In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 770-71 (6th Cir.1995); In re Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 6 F.3d 1119, 1126 (5th Cir.1993); In *343 re Morris Communications NC, Inc., 914 F.2d 458 , 466 (4th Cir.1990).
cited Cited "see" Peltz v. Welsh, Carson, Anderson & Stowe VII, L.P. (In Re Bridge Information Systems, Inc.)
Bankr. E.D. Mo. · 2004 · signal: see · confidence high
See Chomakos v. Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769 , 771 (6th Cir.1995) cert. denied *792 517 U.S. 1168 , 116 S.Ct. 1568 , 134 L.Ed.2d 667 (1996).
cited Cited "see" Word Investments, Inc. v. Bruinsma (In Re TML, Inc.)
Bankr. W.D. Mich. · 2003 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir.1995) (“The time that counts is not the time when the bet is won or lost, but the time when the bet is placed.”).
discussed Cited "see" Meeks v. Perroni (In Re Armstrong)
Bankr. E.D. Ark. · 1999 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769 (6th Cir.1995), cert. denied, 517 U.S. 1168 , 116 S.Ct. 1568 , 134 L.Ed.2d 667 (1996). 7 Time is only one factor to be considered in determining whether a fee may be excessive.
cited Cited "see" Samson v. U.S. West Communications, Inc. (In Re Grigonis)
Bankr. D. Mont. · 1997 · signal: see · confidence high
See Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 771, 772 (6th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." Brusznicki v. Tucker
D. Maryland · 2023 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence medium
See, e.g., In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769, 771 (6th Cir. 1995) (holding that a “legally enforceable” right to future payment constitutes value received by a debtor under the “reasonably equivalent value” analysis).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." Blackford v. Prairie Meadows Racetrack & Casino, Inc.
Iowa · 2010 · signal: see also · confidence low
See Ledoux v. Grand Casino-Coushatta, 954 So.2d 902, 907 (La.Ct.App.2007) (stating “the law of contracts is determinative of the issues before us” in a breach of contract action against a casino for failure to pay out jackpots allegedly won); see also In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769 , 771 (6th Cir.1995) (“Where gambling is lawful ... the placing of a bet gives rise to legally enforceable contract rights.”); Romanski v. Detroit Entm’t, L.L.C., 265 F.Supp.2d 835, 845 (E.D.Mieh.2003) (noting “[w]hen a person places money into a gambling game, that person is effectively entering into an al…
cited Cited "see, e.g." Slone v. Lassiter (In Re Grove-Merritt)
Bankr. S.D. Ohio · 2009 · signal: see also · confidence low
See also In re Chomakos, 69 F.3d 769 , 771 (6th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." Federal National Mortgage Ass'n v. Fitzgerald (In Re Fitzgerald)
Bankr. D. Conn. · 1999 · signal: see also · confidence low
See also Allard v. Hilton (In re Chomakos), 170 B.R. 585, 591 (Bankr.E.D.Mich.1993) (finding that 70% rule *267 is not "mechanically controlling”), aff'd, 69 F.3d 769 (6th Cir.1995), cert. denied, 517 U.S. 1168 , 116 S.Ct. 1568 , 134 L.Ed.2d 667 (1996) (citation and internal quotation marks omitted).
cited Cited "see, e.g." Hirsch v. Steinberg (In Re Colonial Realty Co.)
Bankr. D. Conn. · 1998 · signal: see also · confidence medium
See also Allard v. Flamingo Hilton (In re Chomakos), 69 F.3d 769, 770 (6th Cir.1995), cert. denied, 517 U.S. 1168 , 116 S.Ct. 1568 , 134 L.Ed.2d 667 (1996).
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In Re George Chomakos and Nikki Chomakos, Debtors. David W. Allard, Jr., Chapter 7 Trustee of the Estate of George Chomakos and Nikki Chomakos
v.
Flamingo Hilton
94-1712.
Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.
Dec 20, 1995.
69 F.3d 769

69 F.3d 769

64 USLW 2309, Bankr. L. Rep. P 76,694

In re George CHOMAKOS and Nikki Chomakos, Debtors.
David W. ALLARD, Jr., Chapter 7 Trustee of the Estate of
George Chomakos and Nikki Chomakos, Appellant,
v.
FLAMINGO HILTON, Appellee.

No. 94-1712.

United States Court of Appeals,
Sixth Circuit.

Argued Sept. 14, 1995.
Decided Nov. 13, 1995.
Rehearing and Suggestion for Rehearing En Banc Denied Dec. 20, 1995.

Sheldon S. Toll (argued and briefed), Honigman, Miller, Schwartz & Cohn, Detroit, MI, for David W. Allard, Jr.

Scott M. Mahoney (argued and briefed), Las Vegas, NV, for Flamingo Hilton.

Before: NELSON, RYAN, and McKAY,[*] Circuit Judges.

DAVID A. NELSON, Circuit Judge.

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This is a bankruptcy case in which the trustee sought to recover pre-petition gambling losses from the operator of a state-regulated casino. The casino operator contended that the opportunity for the debtors to win more than the sums they bet, coupled with the entertainment value that the casino provided its customers, constituted "reasonably equivalent value" and "fair consideration" for the bets at issue. The bankruptcy court accepted this contention and held that the bets were not voidable under the Bankruptcy Code or under the Uniform Fraudulent Conveyance Act. The district court affirmed the bankruptcy court's decision on appeal. We shall affirm the affirmance.

2

* The debtors, George and Nikki Chomakos of Rochester, Michigan, filed a bankruptcy petition on August 2, 1990, after having lost several thousand dollars at a casino operated by Flamingo Hilton Corporation in Las Vegas, Nevada. The petition sought relief under Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code, but the matter was soon converted into a Chapter 7 case. The trustee in bankruptcy subsequently commenced an adversary proceeding against Flamingo in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Michigan.

3

The trustee's complaint alleged that Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos had been insolvent for six years prior to the filing of the petition; that during this time Nikki Chomakos transferred various sums to Flamingo for the purpose of gambling; that she made some of these transfers during the year preceding the filing; and that she did not receive a reasonably equivalent value or fair consideration in exchange. The complaint was subsequently amended to allege that George Chomakos had also made losing bets at the casino while insolvent. Invoking 11 U.S.C. Sec. 548(a), the trustee sought to recover under that section losses incurred during the year preceding the bankruptcy filing. Under Mich. Comp. Laws 566.11 et seq., Michigan's version of the Uniform Fraudulent Conveyance Act, the trustee sought to recover losses incurred throughout the entire six-year period in which Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos were alleged to have been insolvent.

4

The case went to trial, and the bankruptcy court found that the debtors should be deemed to have been insolvent from and after January of 1988; that at various times in June and September of 1989 Nikki Chomakos won a total of $9,000 playing slot machines at the Flamingo casino, while losing a total of $14,000; and that George Chomakos lost a net amount of $2,710 at the casino after January of 1988 and before the filing of the petition. The combined net losses of the two debtors during the period when they were insolvent came to $7,710.

5

In an opinion published as In re Chomakos, 170 B.R. 585 (Bankr.E.D.Mich.1993), the bankruptcy court (Shapero, J.) held that the relief requested by the trustee should be denied because defendant Flamingo gave reasonably equivalent value in exchange for the debtors' money. The order denying relief was appealed to the district court. That court affirmed the decision on the basis of Judge Shapero's opinion, and the trustee filed a timely notice of appeal.

II

6

Under the fraudulent transfer section of the Bankruptcy Code, the trustee may undo as constructively fraudulent any property transfer made by the debtor within one year before the filing of the petition if the debtor was insolvent on the date of the transfer and "received less than a reasonably equivalent value in exchange for [the] transfer. ..." 11 U.S.C. Sec. 548(a)(2)(A) and (B)(i).[1] "Value" is defined as "property, or satisfaction or securing of a present or antecedent debt of the debtor...." 11 U.S.C. Sec. 548(d)(2)(A).

7

Under Michigan's Uniform Fraudulent Conveyance Act, to which Flamingo does not deny it is subject, a conveyance made by one who is insolvent is fraudulent as to creditors if made without a fair consideration. Mich. Comp. Laws 566.14. "Fair consideration" is given for property, Mich. Comp. Laws 566.13 provides, "[w]hen in exchange for such property ... as a fair equivalent therefor, and in good faith, property is conveyed or an antecedent debt is satisfied...." The Michigan statute does not have a time limit corresponding to that in the Bankruptcy Code; the two provisions are substantially the same otherwise.

8

The point in time as of which we must determine whether Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos received property of reasonably equivalent value in exchange for the money they wagered at the casino is the point at which their bets were placed. See In re Morris Communications NC, Inc., 914 F.2d 458, 466 (4th Cir.1990), quoting Collier on Bankruptcy Sec. 548.09 at p. 116 (15th ed.1984) as follows:"The critical time is when the transfer is 'made.' Neither subsequent depreciation in nor appreciation in value of the consideration affects the ... question whether reasonable [sic] equivalent value was given."

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Where gambling is lawful, as it was in the case at bar, the placing of a bet gives rise to legally enforceable contract rights. These contract rights constitute "property," of course, and at the time which Collier identifies as "critical"--a time before anyone can know whether the bet will be successful--the property has economic value. The property is not unlike futures contracts purchased on margin. The investor in futures may win big, or his position may be wiped out, but the contractual right to a payoff if the market happens to move the right way at the right time constitutes a value reasonably equivalent to the money at risk.

10

The trustee's brief takes the bankruptcy court to task for making the suggestion--a suggestion characterized by the trustee as "incredible"--that gambling is arguably "an 'investment' that can have economic value...." Chomakos, 170 B.R. at 593. But the trustee looks at the picture only as of the time when Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos left the casino "with nothing in exchange for the monies they gambled away." The time that counts is not the time when the bet is won or lost, but the time when the bet is placed. The "investment" may turn out badly, but unless and until it does, the contractual right to receive payment in the event that it turns out well is obviously worth something.

11

Morris Communications illustrates the point nicely. At issue there was the valuation of the debtor's interest in a corporation ("C-PACT") that had only one asset--an application pending before the Federal Communications Commission for a cellular telephone license. Licenses were to be awarded at a future date under a lottery procedure. C-PACT had a chance of winning a license, but it also had a chance of losing. If the license were won, C-PACT stock would have substantial value; if the license were lost, the stock would be worthless. Before the lottery took place, the debtor sold its C-PACT stock for a price negotiated at arm's length. Rejecting a claim that the price was too low, the court of appeals held that the debtor's transfer of the stock was not voidable under 11 U.S.C. Sec. 548(a)(2)(A) and (B).

12

The games of chance in which Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos participated (slot machine games and blackjack) were not FCC lotteries, of course, and a casino gambler is not kept waiting for months to learn whether a particular bet is successful. The principle, however, is the same in both cases. Take blackjack, for instance. The trial record shows that a person who bets $2 at the blackjack table where Mr. Chomakos did his gambling will win $3 if he receives a black jack. At the point in time when Mr. Chomakos placed a $2 bet, his chance of winning $3 had an economic value no less real in nature than the economic value of C-PACT's chance of winning a cellular telephone license.

13

The existence of an economic value may be immaterial, however, if the dollar value of the gambler's chance of winning--augmented, perhaps, by an element of entertainment value--is not "reasonably equivalent" to the amount of money wagered. We believe that the evidence presented by Flamingo showed a reasonable equivalency here, and the trustee presented no evidence to the contrary.

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The casino's evidence showed, among other things, that the gambling business in Nevada is closely regulated by the state; that this regulation extends to payout ratios for both slot machines and table games; that casinos depend on repeat business, which is encouraged by customers winning; and that competition among casinos is intense. The evidence further showed that a three dollar slot machine bet could produce a jackpot of over a million dollars, which would be paid on the spot; that in a single year, Flamingo slot machine players had more than 9,500 jackpots of $1,200 or more, in addition to many lesser jackpots; that for all the dollars deposited in all Flamingo slot machines over the course of a year, Flamingo paid out 94 percent in winnings; and that the payout ratio for the particular machines played by Mrs. Chomakos was even higher, ranging from 95.73 percent to 97.43 percent. The customer enjoys better odds at the blackjack table, moreover. Assuming the blackjack player has a fair knowledge of the game and uses good basic strategy, the evidence showed that the house advantage is only one percent or less.

15

The trustee disputes none of these facts and does not seriously challenge Flamingo's good faith. Looking at the situation from the standpoint of creditors, however, the trustee argues that the very existence of a house advantage, coupled with the fact that Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos ultimately lost more than they won, means that there was no reasonably equivalent economic benefit. And citing In re Young, 148 B.R. 886 (Bankr.D.Minn.1992), aff'd 152 B.R. 939 (D.Minn.1993), where church contributions made by an insolvent donor were held to be fraudulent conveyances, the trustee maintains that it would be anomalous for gambling losses not to be treated as fraudulent conveyances too.

16

As far as church contributions are concerned, the cases are in conflict. While the Young donor was held not to have received reasonably equivalent value, bankruptcy courts reached a contrary result in In re Missionary Baptist Foundation of America, Inc., 24 B.R. 973 (Bankr.N.D.Tex.1982), and In re Moses, 59 B.R. 815 (Bankr.N.D.Ga.1986). There is no need for us to take sides in the church contribution controversy, however. Looking at the matter from the standpoint of creditors, as the trustee urges us to do, it seems reasonably clear that the intangible property rights accruing to Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos when they placed their bets differed significantly from the benefits accruing to the donors in the church contribution cases.

17

A debtor who contributes to a church may receive spiritual and social returns of great value to the debtor, but such returns are not likely to be of much benefit to creditors. A debtor who places a bet in a fair and lawful game of chance, on the other hand, may receive hard cash in return. On one of the days when Mrs. Chomakos played Flamingo's slot machines, for example, she had winnings of $5,000. Suppose she had won a $5,000 jackpot at the start of her visit to the casino and had stopped playing as soon as she won; the return on her "investment" would obviously have benefited her creditors.

18

It is true that gambling odds always favor the house, and that Mrs. Chomakos would have been almost certain to lose her $5,000 jackpot--and more--if she continued playing long enough. On the record before us, however, we cannot say that the existence of a modest house advantage means that unsuccessful bets are fraudulent conveyances.

19

The trustee argues that Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos did not occupy a bargaining position equal to Flamingo's, and the gambling transactions were therefore not at arm's length. But this argument overlooks the governmental and business forces by which Flamingo was constrained. Flamingo was subject to state regulations designed to create a reasonably level playing field, and Flamingo had to compete with nearby casinos to which Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos and all other customers were free to take their business. Without reasonably generous payouts and competitive odds, Flamingo could not hope to attract the repeat customers on whom, according to the evidence, Flamingo and other casino operators depend for survival. "[T]he quid pro quo," as the bankruptcy court observed, "was established in the context of a state regulated business, existing in an open competitive marketplace responding and responsive to desires of legitimate tourists pursuing and engaging in a legal and legitimate pursuit." Chomakos, 170 B.R. at 592.

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As far as federal law is concerned, moreover, we are not persuaded that we ought to evaluate the transactions at issue here solely from the standpoint of creditors. Casino patrons receive what the bankruptcy court called "psychic and other intangible values," just as patrons of a fine restaurant do, for example. Id. at 593. If, instead of gambling, Mr. and Mrs. Chomakos had spent $7,710 on expensive dinners, the creditors would have been no better off than they are now. Yet the trustee concedes that the restaurateur would not be liable for return of the money--and when asked at oral argument how money spent at a blackjack table differs from money spent at a dinner table, the trustee had no satisfactory answer.

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The judgment affirming the decision of the bankruptcy court is AFFIRMED.

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The Honorable Monroe G. McKay, United States Circuit Judge for the Tenth Circuit, sitting by designation

1

None of the other grounds for avoidance set forth in Sec. 548--that the transfer was made with actual intent to hinder, delay or defraud creditors, e.g., see Sec. 548(a)(1)--is asserted by the trustee here