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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Young v. Laboratory Corporation of America
W.D. Wash. · 2024 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
when the defendant relies on a chain of 14 reasoning that includes assumptions to satisfy its burden of proof, the chain of reasoning and its 15 underlying assumptions must be reasonable ones.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) George Beltran v. PeopleReady, Inc.
N.D. Cal. · 2023 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
hen the defendant relies on a 27 chain of reasoning that includes assumptions to satisfy its burden of proof, the chain of reasoning ii. motion to compel arbitration 1 the federal arbitration act ("faa
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Cunningham v. Sharecare CL, LLC (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
E.D. Cal. · 2024 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
cafa defendant's amount in controversy assumptions in 6 support of removal will always be just that: assumptions.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Towns v. West Creek Financial, Inc. (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
E.D. Cal. · 2023 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
cafa defendant's amount in controversy assumptions in 14 support of removal will always be just that: assumptions.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Johnson v. Bamia 2, LLC (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
E.D. Cal. · 2022 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
cafa defendant's 4 amount in controversy assumptions in support of removal will always be just that: 5 assumptions.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Lopez v. Bio-Reference Laboratories, Inc. (2×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
E.D. Cal. · 2022 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
cafa defendant's 4 amount in controversy assumptions in support of removal will always be just that: 5 assumptions.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Olivia Freeman v. Safeco Insurance Company of America
D. Alaska · 2026 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)). the defendant's amount-in-controversy allegation “should be accepted when not contested by the plaintiff or questioned by the court.”12 II.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) John Soto, individually, and on behalf of all others similarly situated v. Graybar Electric Company, Inc., a New York corporation; Ernesto Acosta, an individual; and DOES 1 through 100, inclusive
E.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Id.; LaCross v. Knight Transp. 6 Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015); see also Arias, 936 F.3d at 925 (“[a]n assumption may 7 be reasonable if it is founded on the allegations of the complaint.”).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Gena Morehouse v. Bell Partners Inc., et al.
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Tyrone Washington v. Kerry Inc
W.D. Wash. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 4 2015).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Carlos Rodriguez, an individual and on behalf of all others similarly situated v. General Dynamics Information Technology, Inc.; David Aimilios
S.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jose Louie Jimenez III, individually, and on behalf of all others similarly situated v. Land O’Lakes, Inc., a Minnesota corporation, and DOES 1 through 10, inclusive
E.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Id.; LaCross v. Knight Transp. 21 Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015); see also Arias, 936 F.3d at 925 (“[a]n assumption may 22 be reasonable if it is founded on the allegations of the complaint.”).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Yvette Gonzalez, Rosa Guzman, Margarita Gonzalez, and Jorge Berroteran v. Peak California Restaurant Group, LLC, a Georgia limited liability company; Peak Restaurant Partners LLC, a limited liability company doing business as iHop; Erick Barragan, an individual and Does 1 through 100, inclusive
N.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015). 14 When a plaintiff challenges the amount in controversy on a motion to remand, “both sides submit 15 proof and the court decides, by a preponderance of the evidence, whether the amount-in-controversy 16 requirement has been satisfied.” Dart Cherokee, 574 U.S. at 88.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Peter Leverman v. Honeywell International Inc (2×)
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)). 13 A defendant’s assumptions, however, “cannot be pulled from thin air but need some 14 reasonable ground underlying them.” Ibarra v. Manheim Invs., Inc., 775 F.3d 1193 , 15 1199 (9th Cir. 2015). 16 III.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Nguyen v. SMTC Manufacturing Corporation of California
N.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Bonezzi v. Ulta Salon, Cosmetics & Fragrance, Inc.
N.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015). 7 “Under the preponderance of the evidence standard, if the evidence submitted by both sides is 8 balanced, in equipoise, the scales tip against federal-court jurisdiction.” Ibarra, 775 F.3d at 1199 . 9 While a defendant bears the burden of demonstrating that CAFA’s amount-in-controversy 10 requirement is met, no additional presumption against removal jurisdiction applies in CAFA cases. 11 Jordan v. Nationstar Mortg.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ivan Bermudez v. Yusen Logistics Americas Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015). 17 Because Bermudez challenged the amount in controversy portion of YLA’s 18 removal through this instant motion to remand, YLA, now, bears the burden to produce 19 admissible evidence to establish, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the amount 20 in controversy requirement has been met.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Oscar T. Monge v. Yusen Logistics Americas Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015). 15 Because Monge challenged the amount in controversy portion of YLA’s removal 16 through this instant motion to remand, YLA, now, bears the burden to produce 17 admissible evidence to establish, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the amount 18 in controversy requirement has been met.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Albert Daniels v. APEX California Region Holdco, LLC
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015). 25 III.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Reed v. Benjamin Moore & Co.
E.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 20 2015).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Basir Zahir v. Mercedes Benz-USA, LLP
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015) (directing courts to first look to the complaint in determining the amount in controversy).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jose Alfredo Gutierrez Esparza v. B. Braun Medical, Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015) (directing courts to first look to the complaint in determining the amount in controversy).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Theodora Morris v. Data Media Associates, LLC
C.D. Cal. · 2025 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015) (directing courts to first look to the complaint in determining the amount in controversy).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Samanatha Shaunee Brown v. Western First Aid & Safety
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202-03 (9th Cir. 2015)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jose Martinez v. Sunnova Energy Corporation
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
The court reasoned that “[b]ecause the complaint does not allege that [the defendant] universally, on each and every shift, violates labor laws by not giving rest and meal breaks, [the defendant] bears the burden to show that its estimated amount in controversy relied on reasonable assumptions.” Id. at 1199 ; cf. LaCross v. Knight Transp., Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202-03 (9th Cir. 2015) (holding that the maximum assumption is reasonable where plaintiff alleged that defendant categorically misclassified truck drivers as independent contractors and sought reimbursement of expenses including all…
cited Cited as authority (rule) Rosalety Avila Barnett v. Saint-Gobain Glass Corporation
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015) (quoting Dart Cherokee, 574 U.S. at 89).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Roberts v. Pacific Woodtech Corp.
E.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1203 (9th Cir. 20 2015).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Heather Parker v. Lendmark Financial Services, LLC
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)). “[A] defendant cannot establish removal jurisdiction by mere speculation and conjecture, with unreasonable assumptions.” Ibarra, 775 F.3d at 1197 .
cited Cited as authority (rule) Lazaro Rodriguez v. Rentokil North America, Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202-03 (9th Cir. 2015).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Grewal v. Park My Fleet LLC
E.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015)). 24 The amount in controversy “is simply an estimate of the total amount in dispute, not a 25 prospective assessment of [the] defendant’s liability.” Lewis v. Verizon Comm. Inc., 627 F.3d 26 395, 400 (9th Cir. 2010). “[T]he amount in controversy is determined by the complaint operative 27 at the time of removal and encompasses all relief a court may grant on that complaint if the 28 plaintiff is victorious.” Chavez v. JPMorgan Chase & Co., 888 F.3d 413 , 414–15 (9th Cir. 2018). 1 “In calculating the amount in controversy, a court must as…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Velasco v. HSS California, Inc. (2×)
N.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 7 2015)); see Ibarra, 775 F.3d at 1199 . 8 When removal is based on CAFA jurisdiction, there is “no antiremoval presumption.” Dart 9 Cherokee, 574 U.S. at 89.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Moises Ross v. Tata Consultancy Services Ltd
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015).
examined Cited as authority (rule) Brandon Rivas v. U.S. Aviation Services Corp. (3×) also: Cited "see"
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Bonetti v. TriStruX LLC (2×)
N.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015)); see 7 Ibarra, 775 F.3d at 1199. 8 When removal is based on CAFA jurisdiction, there is “no antiremoval presumption.” Dart 9 Cherokee, 574 U.S. at 89.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Harvey v. Mid-Century Insurance Company
W.D. Wash. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1203 (9th Cir. 2015).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Barrett v. Armadillo Holdings, LLC (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
E.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)); see also 11 id. (“[A] CAFA defendant's amount-in-controversy assumptions in support of removal 12 will always be just that: assumptions.” (emphasis in original)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Salatino v. American Airlines, Inc.
S.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 9 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015) (quoting Dart Cherokee, 574 U.S. at 89).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Attebery v. US Foods, Inc.
E.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Id.; LaCross v. Knight Transp. 27 Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015); see also Arias, 936 F.3d at 925 (“[a]n assumption may 28 1 be reasonable if it is founded on the allegations of the complaint.”).
examined Cited as authority (rule) Hector A. Avila v. Northwood Hospitality LLC (3×)
C.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Fischer v. Kelly Services Global, LLC
S.D. Cal. · 2024 · confidence medium
Inc., 13 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015) (quoting Dart Cherokee, 574 U.S. at 89).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Tayler Ortiz-Dixon v. FedEx Ground Package System, Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Cal. 2016) (quoting LaCross v. Knight Transp. 24 Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Dave Vaccaro v. Altais
C.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015). 26 2.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) DeMaria v. Big Lots Stores - PNS, LLC
E.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Rather, in making this showing, a removing 22 defendant “must be able to rely ‘on a chain of reasoning that includes assumptions 23 . . . .’” , 28 F.4th 989, 993 (9th Cir. 2022) 24 (quoting , 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)); 25 (“[A] CAFA defendant's amount-in-controversy assumptions in support of removal 26 will always be just that: .” (emphasis in original)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Marcia Powell v. USI Insurance Services, LLC (2×)
C.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015). 20 III.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Michelle Lujano v. Piedmont Airlines, Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Mary Elizabeth McGrath v. All Medical Personnel, Inc.
C.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rivera v. Agreserves, Inc.
E.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Id.; LaCross v. Knight Transp. 16 Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015); see also Arias, 936 F.3d at 925 (“[a]n assumption may 17 be reasonable if it is founded on the allegations of the complaint.”).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Pedro Murillo v. Target Corporation
C.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1201 (9th Cir. 2015)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Reyes v. Federal Express Corporation
N.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
Inc., 775 F.3d 1200, 1202 (9th Cir. 2015). 4 FedEx argues that the FAC alleges a “uniform policy” or a “systematic scheme” (ECF 20 5 at 16), which supports assuming a 100% violation rate.
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Patrick LaCROSS; Robert Lira; Matthew Lofton, on Behalf of Themselves and All Others Similarly Situated, Plaintiffs-Appellees,
v.
KNIGHT TRANSPORTATION INC., an Arizona Corporation; Knight Truck and Trailer Sales, LLC, an Arizona Limited Liability Company, Defendants-Appellants
14-56780.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
Jan 8, 2015.
775 F.3d 1200
Richard H. Rahm (argued), James E. Hart, Carly Nese, and Thomas J. White-side, Littler Mendelson, P.C., San Francisco, CA, for Defendants-Appellants., James M. Trash (argued), Trash Law. Office, Costa Mesa, CA; Ellen R. Serbin, Todd H. Harrison, and Brennan S. Kahn, Perona, Langer, Beck, Serbin, Mendoza & Harrison, APC, Long Beach, CA, for Plaintiffs-Appellees.
Graber, Gould, Callahan.
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OPINION

GOULD, Circuit Judge:

With this appeal pending, we decided Ibarra v. Manheim Investments, Inc., 775F.3d 1193, No. 14-56779 (9th Cir. Jan. 8, 2015), filed simultaneously with this opinion, and addressed what proof a defendant seeking removal must produce to prove the amount in controversy requirement under the Class Action Fairness Act of 2005 (“CAFA”), 28 U.S.C. § 1332(d), when the complaint does not include a facially apparent amount in controversy or may have understated the true amount in controversy. We held in Ibarra that when the defendant relies on a chain of reasoning that includes assumptions to satisfy its burden to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million, the chain of reasoning and its underlying assumptions must be reasonable. Ibarra, 775 F.3d. at 1199. We apply our framework of analysis in Ibarra to defendants’ proof here and conclude that because defendants relied on a reasonable chain of logic and presented sufficient evidence to establish that the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million, defendants have met their burden of proof. We reverse the district court’s judgment and remand for further proceedings consistent with this opinion. Defendants have shown that they are entitled under CAFA to proceed in federal court.

I

Defendants Knight Transportation, Inc., and Knight Truck and Trailer Sales, LLC (collectively, “Knight”), are Arizona corporations licensed to do business in California. The named plaintiffs Patrick La-Cross, Robert Lira, and Matthew Lofton are truck drivers or “Owner Operators” who performed work for Knight. Plaintiffs filed a putative class action against Knight in California state court, alleging that Knight miselassified them as independent contractors and asserting other labor law violations.

Knight removed the case to federal court and estimated the amount in controversy for reimbursing the drivers’ lease-related and fuel costs to be at' least $44 million. The lease-related and fuel costs are at stake because if plaintiffs prevail on their claim that they are employees, Knight will be liable for its employees’ expenditures related to the ownership and operation of the trucks.» See Cal. Lab. Code § 2802. Plaintiffs filed a motion to remand the class action to state court. The district court granted plaintiffs’ motion and remanded the case to state court, concluding that Knight did not meet its burden of proof to establish the amount in controversy because all-of Knight’s calculations relied on a flawed assumption that all drivers worked 50 weeks a year. [1] On July 31, 2014, Knight petitioned for permission to appeal, which we granted on November 10, 2014. [2]

[*1202] II

The sole dispute here is whether CAFA’s requirement that the amount in controversy exceed $5 million is met. In Ibarra, we adhered to the rule that the defendant seeking removal bears the burden of proof to establish by a preponderance of the evidence that the amount-in-controversy requirement is satisfied. Ibarra, 775 F.3d at 1197. As the Supreme Court has held, a removing party must initially file a notice of removal that includes “a plausible allegation that the amount in controversy exceeds the jurisdictional threshold.” Dart Cherokee Basin Operating Co. v. Owens, - U.S. -, 135 S.Ct. 547, 554, - L.Ed.2d - (2014). When, as here, “a defendant’s assertion of the amount in controversy is challenged ... both sides submit proof and the court decides, by a preponderance of the evidence, whether the amount-in-controversy requirement has been satisfied.” Id. at -, 135 S.Ct. at 554. As we further held in Ibarra, when the defendant relies on a chain of reasoning that includes assumptions to satisfy its burden of proof, the chain of reasoning and its underlying assumptions must be reasonable ones. Ibarra, 775 F.3d. at 1199.

We apply our framework of analysis in Ibarra to Knight’s evidence but start by noting an important distinction in the complaints. Unlike the complaint in Ibarra, which alleged a “pattern and practice” of labor law violations but not universal violations, the complaint here clearly defined the class to include only the truck drivers, all of whom allegedly should have been classified as employees rather than as independent contractors. As our first source of reference in determining the amount in controversy, plaintiffs’ complaint claimed that the truck drivers, as employees, should be reimbursed for their business expenses. See St. Paul Mercury Indem. Co. v. Red Cab Co., 303 U.S. 283, 289, 58 S.Ct. 586, 82 L.Ed. 845 (1938) (directing courts to first look to the complaint in determining the amount in controversy). Were plaintiffs to succeed on their claim that they are employees, Knight will need to reimburse them for expenditures related to the ownership and operation of their trucks, including lease-related costs and fuel costs. See Cal. Lab. Code § 2802; see also Rea v. Michaels Stores, Inc., 742 F.3d 1234, 1239 (9th Cir.2014) (per curiam) (upholding the underlying assumption that when all members of the putative class are alleged to have been misclassified, the consequences of misclas-sification apply to all of them).

Knight calculated its potential liability for the drivers’ fuel costs as follows. Knight provides its drivers with fuel cards to pay for fuel at a discount. The drivers are not required to use the cards, so the fuel costs invoiced on Knight’s fuel cards may be less than the actual fuel costs. The total fuel costs invoiced on Knight’s fuel cards in the first quarter of 2014 were $2,369,628. Knight contends that if we multiply the quarterly fuel costs of $2.3[*1203] million by 16 quarters in the four-year class period, the amount in controversy would be $36.8 million.

Knight further extrapolated a more conservative estimate of total fuel costs by taking into account that the number of drivers varied each year. For example, there were 116 drivers in 2010 as opposed to 207.drivers in 2014, so a more accurate calculation of the fuel costs in each quarter of 2010 should be $1,327,907 ($2,369,628 x 116/207). Knight’s number of drivers was the lowest in 2010, and even using the lowest number of drivers in 2010 for all 16 quarters during the relevant class period, the total estimated fuel costs would be $21 million ($1,327,907 x 16 quarters).

The district court erred in concluding that “all of Knights calculations rely on the assumption that ... the .class ... worked for the entirety of the year.” Contrary to the district court’s conclusion, the foregoing method of calculation extrapolated fuel costs based on the actual invoiced fuel costs in the first quarter of 2014 and the actual number of drivers who signed the independent contractor agreements with Knight during the relevant class period, without relying on the assumption that each driver worked the entire year.

Reviewing the district court’s remand order de novo, Abrego Abrego v. Dow Chem. Co., 443 F.3d 676, 679 (9th Cir.2006) (per curiam), we conclude that Knight has produced sufficient evidence to establish by a preponderance of the evidence that the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million. We also conclude that the chain of reasoning and its underlying assumption to extrapolate fuel costs for the entire class period using the actual invoiced fuel costs of'one quarter are reasonable for several reasons. First, the complaint alleges that the class includes only truck drivers, so the fuel costs are necessary expenses in the discharge of the drivers’ duties. See Cal. Lab.Code § 2802. Second, nothing in the record shows that the drivers worked for another company while working for Knight. Third, while the number of drivers varied during the class period, even using the lowest number of drivers in 2010 for all 16 quarters during the class period, the fuel costs would still exceed $5 million.

At oral argument, plaintiffs contended that the class may not be able to prove all the elements for reimbursement under California Labor Code1 § 2802, so the amount in controversy likely will not exceed $5 million. Plaintiffs are conflating the amount in controversy with the amount of damages ultimately recoverable. As we explained in Ibarra, 775 F.3d at 1198 n. 1:

Even when defendants have persuaded a court upon a CAFA removal that the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million, they are still free to challenge the actual amount of damages in subsequent proceedings and at trial. This is so because they are not stipulating to damages suffered, but only estimating the damages that are in controversy.

Ill

We reverse the district court’s judgment and remand for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.

REVERSED and REMANDED.

1

. The district court found that Knight’s assumption was contradicted by its own evidence of actual fuel costs. For example, plaintiff LaCross was counted as a class member for one year but he only paid fuel costs for 18 weeks.

2

. Our November 10, 2014 order granting Knight’s petition for permission to appeal contains a typographical error where it states that “we find that the petition for permission to appeal was timely filed on July 21, 2014.” Knight’s petition for permission to appeal was filed on July 31, 2014.

Plaintiffs contend that the district court’s remand order was entered on July 18, 2014, so Knight's petition for permission to appeal was untimely filed on July 31, 2014. Although the district court’s remand order was filed on July 18, 2014, the order was entered on July 21, 2014. Knight’s petition for permission to appeal was timely filed. 28 U.S.C. § 1453(c)(1).