v.
Susan Lynn Hoppe
07/02/2021 IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF TENNESSEE AT NASHVILLE March 3, 2021 Session
GREGORY CHARLES HOPPE v. SUSAN LYNN HOPPE
Appeal from the Circuit Court for Davidson County No. 14D-1303 Joseph P. Binkley, Jr., Judge ___________________________________
No. M2020-00331-COA-R3-CV ___________________________________
In this post-divorce visitation dispute, the father appeals the denial of his petition to modify the permanent parenting plan and require the mother’s visitation to be supervised “indefinitely.” Before the divorce, the mother’s visitation was suspended after she falsely accused the father of sexually abusing the parties’ minor son. The mother’s visitation was restored when she presented evidence that she was in mental health therapy for her “obsessive” fears. Two months later, in early 2016, the parties agreed to a permanent parenting plan that required the mother to, inter alia, continue her therapy. The parties also agreed for their son to attend counseling to help him remain psychologically healthy despite the parties’ contentious relationship. The mother did not, however, continue her treatment as agreed, and she soon resumed making allegations against the father. Thus, just three months after the parenting plan was entered, her visitation was suspended again. The mother’s visitation remained restricted for a year, during which she struggled to comply with various court orders. In April 2017, the parties agreed for the mother’s visitation to be restored after she presented evidence she was progressing again in her mental health treatment. The parties also agreed for the son to continue counseling for another 18 months. Then, in November 2018, the mother made additional false allegations against the father. The father then filed a petition to modify the parenting plan and restrict the mother’s visitation “indefinitely.” Finding the mother’s behavior endangered the children, the trial court significantly restricted the mother’s parenting time and allowed only limited supervised visitation pending a final hearing. Due to several procedural delays, the final hearing was not held until January 2020, by which time the mother’s visitation had been severely restricted for a year. After the hearing, the court denied the father’s petition and restored the mother’s visitation. The court was persuaded, in part, by evidence that the mother was progressing again in her therapy. The court credited the opinion of the mother’s clinical psychologist, who stated the mother had “gotten better,” understood “that she cannot say things that would alienate [the father from] the children,” was “a loving and devoted parent,” and would “now follow the rules.” The court also agreed with the psychologist’s opinion that the son needed more counseling because he needed “to be able to talk to somebody [he could] trust.” Based on these and other findings of fact, the trial
court found no material change in circumstance existed; however, it ordered that the mother and the parties’ son continue therapy. The court also denied the mother’s request for an award of attorney fees as the “prevailing party” under the marital dissolution agreement and Tenn. Code Ann. § 36-5-103(c). Both parties appealed. Having determined the evidence does not preponderate against the trial court’s finding that no material change of circumstance existed as of the time of trial, we affirm the denial of the father’s petition to modify the parenting plan. We vacate, however, the court’s order requiring the son to continue therapy because the issue was not before the court. We also affirm the denial of the mother’s request to recover her attorney’s fees.
Tenn. R. App. P. 3 Appeal as of Right; Judgment of the Circuit Court Affirmed in Part and Vacated in Part
FRANK G. CLEMENT JR., P.J., M.S., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which THOMAS R. FRIERSON II and W. NEAL MCBRAYER, JJ., joined.
Peggy Smith Pulley, Ashland City, Tennessee, for the appellant, Gregory Charles Hoppe.
Deana Hood, Franklin, Tennessee, for the appellee, Susan Lynn Hoppe.
OPINION
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
Gregory Charles Hoppe (“Father”) and Susan Lynn Hoppe (“Mother”) were married in November 2005. It was the third marriage for Father and the first for Mother. The couple had a son (“OH”) in November 2009 and a daughter (“LH”) in December 2012 (collectively, “the Children”).1
At the time of the marriage, Mother knew that Father was involved in an ongoing visitation dispute with his first wife that involved allegations of child sexual abuse. Father denied the allegations, which were never substantiated. The dispute between Father and his ex-wife was resolved in 2008.
I. DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS
In May 2014, Father filed a complaint for divorce against Mother, alleging, inter alia, that Mother was “falsely accusing [him] of misconduct and/or abuse.” The trial court then entered a standard Notice of Statutory Injunction under Tenn. Code Ann. § 36-4- 106(d)(3), restraining the parties “from making disparaging remarks about the other to or in the presence of any children of the parties.”
[*2]In her Answer and Counter-Complaint for Divorce, Mother requested an ex parte restraining order on behalf of the Children because of concerns that Father was sexually abusing OH. Mother explained that she took OH to see a licensed social worker in December 2013 after observing “suspicious” and “inappropriate” behavior from OH. In an attached affidavit, the social worker, Juanita Oakes, stated that she believed OH was the victim of sexual abuse by Father. Ms. Oakes explained that OH described inappropriate “games” that resembled those described by Father’s ex-wife in the prior visitation dispute. As a result, the trial court granted the restraining order and placed the Children in Mother’s sole custody pending a hearing.
In response, Father submitted the affidavit of OH’s occupational therapist, Gloria Isaaks. Ms. Isaaks had been treating OH since 2013, and she was trained to detect signs of child abuse. Ms. Isaaks reported that Mother approached her in March 2014 with a concern that OH’s behavior was a sign of sexual abuse. Mother later told Ms. Isaaks that law enforcement had conducted a forensic interview of OH and declined to pursue charges against Father. Ms. Isaaks assured Mother that OH had not exhibited concerning behavior during therapy.
After a hearing, the trial court modified the temporary restraining order to give Father supervised visitation. The court also appointed a forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Bradley Freeman, to conduct a “psychological-sexual evaluation” of Mother, Father, and OH. While Dr. Freeman’s report was pending, Father filed a Petition for Criminal Contempt, alleging that Mother violated the injunction in Tenn. Code Ann. § 36-4-106 by making disparaging remarks about him in front of the Children. In an attached affidavit, Father’s visitation supervisor stated that Mother told the supervisor that Father was a “known child molester” and that OH “was sexually abused in [Father’s] house.”
In his report, Dr. Freeman found no evidence to support Mother’s claim of abuse. Thus, Dr. Freeman recommended no further investigation into the allegations. He did, however, suggest the parties send OH to therapy. Dr. Freeman also found reason to believe that Mother needed mental health treatment, expressing a concern that her conduct alienated the Children from Father. Thus, the trial court dissolved the restraining order against Father and gave each party equal, unsupervised visitation. The court also ordered the parties to follow Dr. Freeman’s recommendations. The court did not adjudicate Father’s motion for criminal contempt, but it reminded the parties of the injunction against making derogatory comments about the other parent.
A. Father’s First Petition for Temporary Restraining Order
In March 2015, Mother began therapy with a psychiatrist, Dr. Thomas Monroe, and OH started seeing a new social worker, Phyllis Nobles. As part of OH’s therapy, Mother also met with Ms. Nobles. Shortly after the meeting, a second sex abuse referral was made to the Department of Children’s Services (“DCS”), and OH underwent another forensic interview. DCS again found the allegations unfounded.[2]
[*3]Father then filed a motion to restrict Mother’s visitation, asserting she was continuing to alienate the Children from him. At the hearing on Father’s motion, Mother asserted that she was “just answering [Ms. Noble’s] questions.” The trial court warned that repeated, unfounded allegations of abuse could result in a finding that Mother was alienating the Children, but it declined to restrict her visitation. The court also ordered OH to see a different therapist. It clarified that the goal of OH’s therapy was to help him “navigate the separation of his parents and to assist him in remaining psychologically healthy in spite of this contentious relationship,” but not to “further investigate any allegations of abuse.”
B. Father’s Second Petition for Temporary Restraining Order
Two months later, Mother took LH to a pediatrician after observing LH “constantly grabbing her private area.” The pediatrician’s exam, however, revealed nothing abnormal. A few days later, LH allegedly complained to Mother that her bottom hurt. When Mother asked if someone had hurt her, LH allegedly replied that “daddy did.” Mother then took the Children to an urgent care clinic, where LH was examined again. Mother told the physician that Father’s ex-wife accused him of sexual abuse and that OH reported inappropriate touching by Father. Still, the second exam revealed nothing abnormal. Nonetheless, the matter was referred to DCS because of the severity of the allegations. After interviewing the Children, DCS again concluded that the allegations were unfounded.
Thus, in July 2015, Father filed another Motion to Modify or Suspend Mother’s Visitation/Parenting Time and for Entry of Immediate Restraining Order, asserting that Mother was continuing in her attempts to alienate the Children’s affections and subjecting them to unnecessary evaluations. The trial court entered a restraining order, finding “that immediate and irreparable harm to the minor children w[ould] likely result unless [Mother]’s visitation with the minor children [was] temporarily suspended.”
In response, Mother asserted that “she was simply answering questions posed by the child’s medical provider” and had not understood the court’s prior orders about the disclosure of abuse allegations. Mother later moved to have her visitation reinstated, explaining that she acted out of a “genuine fear that her children were being harmed” and asserting that her actions were driven by “counselors telling her they were certain her children were being molested” and by Father’s ex-wife “confirming all [Mother’s] worst fears.”
[*4]Mother also provided a letter from her psychiatrist, Dr. Monroe, who explained that Mother was dealing with “obsessive fears that her son was sexually abused by [Father]” and had suffered “a moderate relapse of intrusive thoughts.” Still, Dr. Monroe stated that Mother was improving and would “be able to manage these thoughts in the future and . . . be very supportive of her children’s relationship with their father.” As a result, the trial court modified the restraining order to give Mother limited, supervised parenting time and set the matter for a review hearing.
Before the review hearing, the parties conducted an evidentiary deposition with Dr. Monroe, a transcript of which Mother filed with the court. According to Dr. Monroe, Mother knew that “she needed to get over [her fears of abuse]” and was motivated to improve. Thus, after the review hearing, the trial court ordered that the supervision requirement would be lifted in December 2015 if there were no further “incidents.”
C. Permanent Parenting Plan
Mother successfully resumed her visitation in December 2015. One month later, the parties executed a marital dissolution agreement (“the MDA”) and a Permanent Parenting Plan. The Parenting Plan designated Father as the Children’s primary residential parent but gave the parties joint decision-making authority. Mother was to pay Father $431 per month in child support and a pro-rata share of extracurricular fees and noncovered medical expenses.
Significantly, the Parenting Plan also required Mother to continue the same course of treatment she represented as helping her in 2015. First, Mother had to provide Father with an update from Dr. Monroe on her progress. Mother then had to arrange for the development of a treatment plan between Dr. Monroe and a new psychiatrist. Mother had to provide the new psychiatrist with documents related to her past treatment, including Dr. Freeman’s reports and Dr. Monroe’s evidentiary deposition transcript. Finally, upon request, Mother had to provide monthly reports showing that she was complying with the treatment plan “during the duration of the children’s minority, or until Mother is released from the[] treatment plan.”
The Parenting Plan also required OH to see a licensed social worker, Paris Brown, “with such frequency and duration of therapy as determined in collaboration with Ms. Brown.” The Plan reiterated that the goal of OH’s therapy was “to assist him with the separation of his parents and remain psychologically healthy in spite of his parent’s history of a contentious relationship with each other.” It specifically stated that “[t]his therapy shall not include investigation of prior abuse allegations as those allegations have already been investigated.” The Plan also reiterated the injunction against making derogatory comments about the other parent or otherwise alienating the Children from the other parent.
[*5]The trial court approved and adopted the MDA and the Permanent Parenting Plan in its Final Order of February 3, 2016.
II. FIRST PETITION TO MODIFY PARENTING PLAN
Consistent with the Permanent Parenting Plan, Mother began to see a new psychiatrist, Dr. David Chang. Even so, Mother did not coordinate her treatment between Dr. Chang and Dr. Monroe, and she did not provide Dr. Chang with the documents specified in the Parenting Plan.
In May 2016—just three months after the divorce was final—Father filed his first Petition to Modify Parenting Plan, to Suspend Mother’s Visitation, and for a Restraining Order. In an attached affidavit, Father described being present when Mother told the Children’s pediatrician, Dr. Patricia Williams, that she believed the Children had been abused. Mother explained that OH had pain in his penis and bottom, and LH—who was three years old—had been touching herself. OH denied being in pain, and the pediatrician assured Mother that LH’s behavior was normal for her age. Nonetheless, Mother insisted that she needed “an advocate” for the Children because she had been under a “gag order” regarding the abuse allegations.
Father also alleged that OH’s therapist, Ms. Brown, terminated her services after Mother berated Ms. Brown for not finding any evidence of sexual abuse during therapy. He also asserted that Mother confronted Father’s sister at a soccer game, saying she couldn’t “believe what [the sister] and [her] family ha[d] done to the children.” Moreover, Father stated that he requested but did not receive a compliance report from Mother regarding her mental health treatment. Thus, Father asked the court to suspend or restrict Mother’s visitation and to restrain Mother from making further allegations against him.
In response, Mother denied “making any allegations against Father.” Still, the trial court found Father’s allegations were significant enough to warrant temporarily suspending Mother’s visitation pending the depositions of Ms. Brown and Dr. Williams.
Just one week later, law enforcement was called to OH’s school when Mother tried to leave with him. Thus, the trial court barred Mother from having any physical contact with the Children. After a hearing, the court modified the restraining order to allow Mother supervised visitation, and it appointed a clinical psychologist, Dr. David McMillan, to conduct a new mental health evaluation.
Less than a month later, however, Father filed a Motion to Suspend Mother’s Supervised Visitation and for a Restraining Order, alleging that she made a third abuse referral to DCS. In an attached affidavit, Father stated that DCS contacted him to schedule forensic interviews with the Children. Father also alleged that Mother appeared unannounced at his house and prevented him and the Children from leaving. Thus, the trial court suspended Mother’s visitation again and barred her from contacting Father or the Children.
[*6]In a pro se response, Mother explained that she was simply “passing by” Father’s house and stopped to say hello. Mother denied that she “continuously reported false allegations” and insisted that “[m]any [of the reports] were [made] by others.” She alleged that Father was a known “sexual predator” and contended that “every red flag that [she] ever reported” was reported “in good faith.” In contrast to Father, Mother insisted that she was an exemplary parent. She attested to having been “evaluated [by] or received treatment” from ten mental health professionals, of whom “most either wrote a letter on [her] behalf or a deposition was taken revealing no concern with [her] parenting.”
After a hearing in September 2016—at which Mother also appeared pro se—the trial court expressed “serious concerns” about Mother’s mental health. Accordingly, the court kept the restraining order in place.
The next month, Father filed a second Petition for Criminal Contempt, alleging that Mother violated the restraining order by, inter alia, having contact with the Children at extracurricular events. After a hearing at which Father and Dr. McMillan testified,3 the court found Mother knowingly violating the restraining order. Nonetheless, the court stayed sentencing based on Dr. McMillan’s testimony that Mother was making progress in her treatment.
Unlike Dr. Monroe, who tried to help Mother change how she dealt with “intrusive thoughts,” Dr. McMillan would later testify that his therapy was concentrated on assisting Mother to control her behavior despite her unwavering belief that Father was abusing the Children.[4] Dr. McMillan succeeded in getting Mother to back down by suggesting they “establish a safety net” for the Children with a new therapist experienced in child sexual abuse issues, Dr. Janie Berryman.
Thus, in January 2017, Mother filed an update from Dr. McMillan, who stated that Mother was ready to “resume her role as parent to the children and behave respectfully toward the father.” Then, in April 2017, the parties reached an agreement that “phased in” Mother’s parenting time over two months. If her visits occurred without issue, the parties would resume the residential parenting schedule per the Permanent Parenting Plan. Additionally, the Children would attend therapy for 18 months with Dr. Berryman, and Mother had to provide Father with quarterly updates on her mental health treatment.
[*7]III. SECOND PETITION TO MODIFY PARENTING PLAN
As agreed, the Children began therapy with Dr. Berryman in or around April 2017, and Mother resumed visitation a few months later. Although Dr. McMillan’s court appointment ended, Mother continued seeing him voluntarily and continued reporting what she believed were signs of abuse to Dr. McMillan. Considering the case history, Dr. McMillan told Mother that no one would believe future allegations unless she made an audio recording of the Children disclosing the abuse. It was a comment that Dr. McMillan later testified he regretted making.
The 18-months of therapy ended with no disclosure of abuse from the Children to Dr. Berryman. Then, one evening in November 2018, Mother set an audio recorder in front of OH and asked him to describe how Father had abused him and his sister. With some help from Mother, OH complied. Mother sent the recording to Dr. McMillan and Dr. Berryman, who told Mother to take immediate action to protect the Children. Dr. Berryman also reported the matter to DCS. Mother then took a transcript of the recording to the Davidson County General Sessions Court and obtained an ex parte Order of Protection against Father.
After finding out about the Order of Protection, Father filed a second Petition to Modify Parenting Plan, to Suspend Mother’s Visitation and for a Restraining Order. Father asked the court to remove the Children from the Order of Protection, temporarily suspend Mother’s visitation, temporarily restrain Mother from making further allegations, and modify the Parenting Plan to “indefinitely” suspend Mother’s visitation. The trial court immediately dissolved the Order of Protection, entered a temporary restraining order against Mother, and set the matter for a hearing.
Mother then filed an Emergency Counter-Petition for Modification of Parenting Plan and Request for a Temporary Restraining Order. Mother asserted that the audio recording of OH substantiated her long-standing suspicion that Father “was behaving inappropriately with the children in the nature of sexual abuse.” Mother also included the affidavit of Dr. Berryman, who stated that OH’s disclosure was “consistent with certain statements” the Children made during therapy. Thus, the trial court dissolved the restraining order against Mother and reinstated the Order of Protection against Father pending completion of the DCS investigation.
Less than two weeks later, the DCS investigator, Darlene Sistrunk, testified that she had completed her investigation and found no cause for concern. Ms. Sistrunk explained that DCS had conducted a forensic interview of OH, visited each parent’s home, and met with the Children several times. She recommended that both Mother and Father stop discussing sexual abuse with the Children. Accordingly, the Order of Protection was dissolved. Mother later nonsuited her Petition to Modify the Parenting Plan.
[*8]Father then filed another Motion to Suspend Mother’s Visitation, contending that the audio recording and the DCS report were evidence that Mother was having inappropriate conversations with the Children. Father also requested a new evaluation of Mother’s mental health based on the fact that Mother failed to provide him with quarterly updates as required by the Agreed Order of April 2017. Father later filed a Petition for Civil Contempt, alleging that Mother owed child support and her share of extracurricular and therapy expenses.
After a hearing in January 2019, the trial court limited Mother’s visitation to three supervised hours every Thursday and every other Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The court reasoned that supervision of Mother’s parenting time was “the only way [to] stop the minor children from being interviewed by the Defendant/Mother.” Mother then filed a Motion to Alter or Amend, contending there was no evidence that unsupervised visitation presented “a substantial likelihood of harm” to the Children as required by Tenn. Code Ann. § 36-6- 405(b).5 The court denied Mother’s motion, clarifying that “Mother is not a trained sex abuse investigator and any actions on her behalf to elicit disclosures from the children or memorialize any statement of the children taints that evidence and potentially taints and/or undermines future forensic interviews by trained sex abuse investigators.” Thus, the court found “that such behavior . . . is harmful to the children.” In the same order, the trial court granted Father’s request for a new mental health assessment. It later appointed Dr. William Kenner to conduct the evaluation.
VI. FINAL HEARING
The final hearing on Father’s Petition to Modify Parenting Plan and Petition for Civil Contempt was held on January 6 and 7, 2020. By the time of trial, Mother’s visitation had been significantly restricted for almost a year, during which time Mother continued to see Dr. Chang and Dr. McMillan.
Father testified that he was asking the court to impose an indefinite supervision requirement on Mother’s parenting time and to restrain her from discussing the sex abuse allegations with anyone. Father also testified that he opposed further therapy for the Children, explaining that they were doing well in school and extracurricular activities.
As for the allegations of sexual abuse, Ms. Sistrunk testified there had been a total of five cases opened by DCS since 2014 involving Father and the Children. As a result, the Children underwent at least three forensic interviews. According to Ms. Sistrunk, all the investigations ended with a determination that the allegations were unfounded. Ms. Sistrunk also stated that her discussions with the Children revealed no safety concerns about either parent. Likewise, DCS’s forensic investigator, Barbara Tallent, testified that she found no cause for concern after interviewing OH.
[*9]Each party also presented lay testimony about their interactions with the Children. Father’s nanny, Cheri Sanders, testified that she worked with the Children for three and a half years and never worried about Father’s behavior or contact with the Children. Mother’s visitation supervisor, Kathy Moss, testified that she supervised Mother’s visitation throughout 2019 and did not see Mother question the Children about sexual abuse or have inappropriate conversations with them.
Father also presented the testimony of an independent forensic psychologist, Dr. George Davis, and Mother’s court-appointed psychiatrist, Dr. Kenner. Dr. Davis stated that he interviewed OH shortly after the allegations were made in November 2018. At first, OH confirmed the statements from Mother’s recording, but Dr. Davis noted that OH quickly digressed and then admitted that the abuse never happened. In addition, Dr. Davis testified that OH was “very . . . confused about what the truth is” and “has difficulty with telling the truth” because he is “telling both parents what they want to hear.” Dr. Davis believed that continual discussion of sexual abuse was harmful to OH.
More specifically, Dr. Kenner testified that frequent discussion of sexual abuse with the Children was harmful because it “sexualize[d]” them. In other words, it placed a lens between the Children and other people that caused them to see normal behavior as sexually motivated. Dr. Kenner was concerned by OH’s November 2018 disclosure because it showed the Children were “growing up into this, and they have a distorted sense of reality.” Based on his interactions with Mother, Dr. Kenner believed that Mother showed no signs of giving up on her campaign against Father. He referenced numerous text messages that Mother sent him after their 2019 interview, in which Mother tried to recruit him to be her advocate. In one message, Mother asked Dr. Kenner to “do something” about the Children, contact the judge on her behalf, and “write down everything that the judge had said to [Dr. Kenner].”
On the other hand, Mother presented the testimony of her psychiatrists, Dr. McMillan and Dr. Chang. Unlike Dr. Kenner, Dr. McMillan believed that the Mother’s visitation needed to be restored. Dr. McMillan explained that Mother’s behavior had improved over the past three years, and she was “beginning to see that she needs to refrain her behavior of speaking to the children about their father.”
Dr. McMillan acknowledged that Mother has an “impulse control issue” and gets “blinded by . . . the fact that she doesn’t have the children.” But he stated that “when her children are not the issue, she’s pretty good.” Dr. McMillan admitted that treating Mother was challenging because “you can’t make [her] believe something she doesn’t believe.” He also acknowledged contacting Dr. Chang in 2019 after Mother tried to communicate ex
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parte with the court.[6] Dr. McMillan suggested they “reconsider her medication” given the possibility “that this was manic behavior.” But Dr. McMillan ultimately adhered to a different explanation for Mother’s conduct:
[R]ather than look for a clinical diagnosis, there’s an obvious one that doesn’t require any pathology, and that is this is a mother who is so, so, so devoted to her children, and she believes that they are being sexually abused, and she can’t get anybody to hear her or listen to her, or believes she can’t get anybody to hear her or listen to her, or believe her or take her seriously. That just drives her nuts sometimes.
For these reasons, Dr. McMillan believed that Mother was not a danger to the Children. But he recommended OH continue therapy with Dr. Berryman, reasoning that OH was “caught between two parents” and needed someone he could trust “to talk about what’s real.”
The parties read into the record the evidentiary deposition of Dr. Chang. Dr. Chang had no concern about Mother’s ability to parent the Children, but he admitted that he now realized he did not have “all the information” and what Mother had been telling him was “not fully accurate.” Contrary to the Permanent Parenting Plan requirements, Mother never told Dr. Chang about her therapy with Dr. Monroe and never provided him with her past mental health records. He also acknowledged that if Mother “was getting too obsessive,” she “could be a harm to the children.”
During her testimony, Mother admitted to violating the Permanent Parenting Plan by not coordinating her treatment between Dr. Chang and Dr. Monroe and making derogatory comments about Father in front of the Children. Mother also admitted that she failed to pay child support and her share of extracurricular and therapy expenses. As for the Agreed Order of April 2017, Mother admitted to taking the Children to therapy with Dr. Berryman more often and longer than agreed to, and she admitted that she did not provide Father with quarterly updates on her mental health treatment. Mother also admitted to violating the restraining orders by not notifying Father before attending extracurricular events without a supervisor and going to Father’s house without a supervisor present.
Mother denied discussing sexual abuse with the Children. Still, she admitted sending multiple emails to Dr. Berryman and Dr. McMillan about her “discussions with the Children about inappropriate touching by the father.” When asked about the November 2018 recording, Mother insisted that “there were incidents leading up to [the audio recording]” that gave her cause for concern, but she could not recall what those events were. Mother stated that she “felt like [OH] was asking [her] for help,” though Mother was