204 Louisiana opinions name it 2 courts 1932–2024 3 in the last five years
The cases below were cited by Louisiana courts in a sentence that names this issue. Sides come from how each citing opinion treated the case (Syfertize flag on that citation), so a case can appear on both: that is where the law is contested. A red or yellow chip is the case's own overall treatment.
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State v. Loydgreen2 sentences2016See also State v. Loyd, 96-1805 (La. 2/13/97), 689 So.2d 1321, 1331 (“Louisiana’s instruction is an even-handed one which accurately informs jurors that a death sentence as well as a life sentence remains subject to executive revision.”). 2016See also State v. Loyd, 96-1805 (La. 2/13/97), 689 So.2d 1321, 1331 (“Louisiana’s instruction is an even-handed one which accurately informs jurors that a death sentence as well as a life sentence remains subject to executive revision.”). | 3 | 3 |
Terrebonne Fuel & Lube, Inc. v. Placid Refining Co.green2 sentences2011Terrebonne Fuel & Lube, Inc. v. Placid Refining Co., 1995-0671 (La.1/16/96), 666 So.2d 624 . 2006A decided case precluded a second suit only if it involved the same | fiparties, the same cause and the same object of demand as the prior suit.” 95-0654, p. 12; 666 So.2d at 632 (citation omitted). | 2 | 7 |
State v. Hammonsgreen2 sentences2012In State v. Hammons, 597 So.2d 990, 995-97 (La.1992) (footnotes omitted), the supreme court summarized the history of this fundamental right as follows: Louisiana’s rule as to statements against penal interest is closely patterned after Fed.R.Evid. 804. 2011The Louisiana Supreme Court summarized the history of the rule regarding statements made against penal interest for the purpose of a defendant’s fundamental right to present a defense in State v. Hammons, 597 So.2d 990, 995-97 (La.1992): Louisiana’s rule as to statements against penal interest is closely patterned after Fed.R.Evid. 804. | 2 | 4 |
cluster 452985green2 sentences1995The court in Perkins, 762 F.2d at 1267-68, discussed the Louisiana doctrine of ultrahazardous activity in detail, finding the doctrine to be defined by three boundaries: (1) the activity must relate to land or some other immovable; (2) the activity itself must cause the injury, and the defendant must be engaged directly in the injury causing activity; and (3) the activity must not require substandard conduct to cause injury. 1995The court in Perkins, 762 F.2d at 1267-68, discussed the Louisiana doctrine of ultrahazardous activity in detail, finding the doctrine to be defined by three boundaries: (1) the activity must relate to land or some other immovable; (2) the activity itself must cause the injury, and the defendant must be engaged directly in the injury causing activity; and (3) the activity must not require substandard conduct to cause injury. | 2 | 2 |
Daigle v. Coastal Marine, Inc.green2 sentences1987In Daigle v. Coastal Marine, Inc., 488 So.2d at 681, n. 3 , the Louisiana Supreme Court held that the Louisiana standard of appellate review applies to cases under general maritime law, which includes unseaworthiness cases. 1987In Daigle v. Coastal Marine, Inc., 488 So.2d at 681, n. 3 , the Louisiana Supreme Court held that the Louisiana standard of appellate review applies to cases under general maritime law, which includes unseaworthiness cases. | 2 | 2 |
Jackson v. Virginiared2 sentences1989Art. 821 tracts Jackson v. Virginia, 443 U.S. 307 , 99 S.Ct. 2781 , 61 L.Ed.2d 560 (1979) in setting up a Louisiana standard pertaining to post-verdict motions for acquittal based upon insufficiency of the evidence. 1989Art. 821 tracts Jackson v. Virginia, 443 U.S. 307 , 99 S.Ct. 2781 , 61 L.Ed.2d 560 (1979) in setting up a Louisiana standard pertaining to post-verdict motions for acquittal based upon insufficiency of the evidence. | 1 | 5 |
Arceneaux v. Dominguegreen2 sentences1987Therefore, not only are we required to review the evidence under the standards mandated by Jackson v. Virginia, 443 U.S. 307 , 99 S.Ct. 2781 , 61 L.Ed.2d 560 (1979), but we are also required to apply Louisiana's standard of review for civil cases as set out in Arceneaux v. Domingue, 365 So.2d 1330 (La.1978), writ denied 374 So.2d 660 (La.1979); State in the Interest of Redd, supra ; State in the Interest of Cason, supra . [1] The Jackson v. Virginia standard requires that we determine whether the evidence, viewed in the light most favorable to the prosecution, is sufficient for a rational trie 1979The Louisiana standard for appellate review of fact, stated in Canter v. Koehring, 283 So.2d 716 (La.1973) and recently re-emphasized and clarified in Arceneaux v. Domingue, 365 So.2d 1330 (La. 1978), requires a finding of manifest error in reversing a factual finding of a trial court. "`Manifestly erroneous,' in its simplest terms, means `clearly wrong.' ... [T]he appellate court should not disturb such a finding of fact unless it is clearly wrong, " Arceneaux v. Domingue, supra, at 1333. | 1 | 3 |
Ensenat v. Edgecombegreen2 sentences2010See Ensenat v. Edgecombe, 97-2239, p. 3 (La.App. 4 Cir. 3/11/98), 707 So.2d 1059, 1061 . 2010See Ensenat v. Edgecombe, 97-2239, p. 3 (La.App. 4 Cir. 3/11/98), 707 So.2d 1059, 1061 . | 1 | 2 |
Celotex Corp. v. Catrett, Administratrix of the Estate of Catrettgreen2 sentences2007In interpreting the standard for summary judgment under Rule 56(c), the U.S. Supreme Court, in Celotex Corporation, explained: Of course, a party seeking summary judgment always bears the initial responsibility of informing the district court of the basis for its motion, and identifying those portions of "the pleadings, depositions, answers to interrogatories, and admissions on file, together with the affidavits, if any," which it believes demonstrate the absence of a genuine issue of material fact. * * * [A]s we have already explained, a motion for summary judgment may be made pursuant to Rul 2007In interpreting the standard for summary judgment under Rule 56(c), the U.S. Supreme Court, in Celotex Corporation, explained: Of course, a party seeking summary judgment always bears the initial responsibility of informing the district court of the basis for its motion, and identifying those portions of "the pleadings, depositions, answers to interrogatories, and admissions on file, together with the affidavits, if any," which it believes demonstrate the absence of a genuine issue of material fact. * * * [A]s we have already explained, a motion for summary judgment may be made pursuant to Rul | 1 | 2 |
prod.liab.rep.(cch)p 10,736 Willie M. Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., and Olin Corporation v. Midland Insurance Companygreen2 sentences1995Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc., 829 F.2d at 550 ; Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., 766 F.2d 904, 907 (5th Cir.1985); Triplette v. Exxon Corporation, 554 So.2d at 1362 . 1995Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc., 829 F.2d at 550 ; Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., 766 F.2d 904, 907 (5th Cir.1985); Triplette v. Exxon Corporation, 554 So.2d at 1362 . | 1 | 2 |
| Sliman v. McBeegreen | 1 | 2 |
| Hebert v. Rapides Parish Police Jurygreen | 1 | 1 |
| Cole v. Celotex Corp.green | 1 | 1 |
| Blannie S. Wilson, Administratrix of the Estate of Henry J. Wilson, Deceased v. Johns-Manville Sales Corporationgreen | 1 | 1 |
| Alonzo v. Chificigreen | 1 | 1 |
| State ex rel. Nash v. Stategreen | 1 | 1 |
| Howell v. Winn Parish School Boardgreen | 1 | 1 |
| Davis v. Newpark Shipbuilding and Repair, Inc.green | 1 | 1 |
| cluster 21698green | 1 | 1 |
| McDuffie v. Walkergreen | 1 | 1 |
| Dallas v. Farringtongreen | 1 | 1 |
| Wright v. Mooregreen | 1 | 1 |
| Jacobs v. New Orleans Public Service, Inc.green | 1 | 1 |
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Hayes v. Autin
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2 sentences2007C.C.P. art. 966(C)(2) brought "Louisiana's standard for summary judgment closely in line with the federal standard under [Federal Rule of Civil Procedure] 56(c)." Hayes, 96-287 at ___, 685 So. 2d at 694 . 1998In 1997, the legislature again amended the provisions of Art. 966 for the purpose of clarifying the 1996 changes and legislatively overruling all cases inconsistent with Hayes v. Autin, 96-287 (La.App. 3d Cir. 12/26/96), 685 So.2d 691, 694 , writ denied, 97-0281 (La.3/14/97), 690 So.2d 41 , which had declared that the 1996 amendment brought Louisiana's standard for summary judgment closely in line with the federal courts' "more liberal standard." Whether or not the 1996 and 1997 amendments actually changed the standard for summary judgment is debatable, but there can be no doubt that the legis | 15 | 1997–2007 |
Hayes v. Autin
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2 sentences2004Hayes v. Autin, 96-287 (La.App.3 Cir. 12/26/96); 685 So.2d 691, 694 , writ denied, 97-0281 (La.3/14/97), 690 So.2d 41 . 1998In 1997, the legislature again amended the provisions of Art. 966 for the purpose of clarifying the 1996 changes and legislatively overruling all cases inconsistent with Hayes v. Autin, 96-287 (La.App. 3d Cir. 12/26/96), 685 So.2d 691, 694 , writ denied, 97-0281 (La.3/14/97), 690 So.2d 41 , which had declared that the 1996 amendment brought Louisiana's standard for summary judgment closely in line with the federal courts' "more liberal standard." Whether or not the 1996 and 1997 amendments actually changed the standard for summary judgment is debatable, but there can be no doubt that the legis | 10 | 1998–2004 |
State v. Shaffer
green
2 sentences2018Shaffer , 77 So.3d 939 . 2018Shaffer , 77 So.3d 939 . | 5 | 2016–2018 |
Horton v. McCary
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2 sentences2004The court further noted that dismissal is a “draconian” penalty which should only be applied in “extreme circumstances.” Id. |4Comparing the Louisiana rule for sanctioning a party who fails to comply with discovery with the Federal rule, the Horton court identified four factors appellate courts should consider when determining whether a trial court’s dismissal of a plaintiffs claims is an abuse of discretion: (1) whether the violation was willful or resulted from inability to comply; (2) whether less drastic sanctions would be effective; (3) whether the violations prejudiced the opposing party 2004The court further noted that dismissal is a “draconian” penalty which should only be applied in “extreme circumstances.” Id. |4Comparing the Louisiana rule for sanctioning a party who fails to comply with discovery with the Federal rule, the Horton court identified four factors appellate courts should consider when determining whether a trial court’s dismissal of a plaintiffs claims is an abuse of discretion: (1) whether the violation was willful or resulted from inability to comply; (2) whether less drastic sanctions would be effective; (3) whether the violations prejudiced the opposing party | 5 | 2004–2012 |
Allen v. Smith
green
2 sentences1984As later stated in Allen v. Smith, 390 So.2d 1300 (La.1980): The Louisiana rule empowering a court to impose these sanctions is identical to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 37(b), (d). 1984As later stated in Allen v. Smith, 390 So.2d 1300 (La.1980): The Louisiana rule empowering a court to impose these sanctions is identical to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 37(b), (d). | 3 | 1984–2010 |
State v. Wade
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2 sentences1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. | 3 | 1982–1994 |
National Labor Relations Board v. Mercy Hospital Ass'n
green
2 sentences1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. | 3 | 1982–1994 |
Castro v. Territory of Guam
green
2 sentences1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. | 3 | 1982–1994 |
Flanagan v. United States
green
2 sentences1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 1994In State v. Wade, 375 So.2d 97 (La.1979), cert. denied, 445 U.S. 971 , 100 S.Ct. 1665 , 64 L.Ed.2d 249 (1980), the sole issue was the defendant's right to introduce psychiatric testimony concerning his ability or lack of ability to formulate specific intent. "[W]e do not find that due process is offended by the Louisiana rule that a defendant cannot rebut evidence of specific intent by presentation of psychiatric testimony, without pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. | 3 | 1982–1994 |
Eals v. Swan
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2 sentences1967Application of the rule in this state was the subject of comment in Eals v. Swan, 221 La. 329 , 59 So.2d 409 (1952) wherein the court stated: “The Louisiana rule is that while mutual, equal fault operates as a bar to relief being given to either litigant, the courts consider in each case the degree of guilt, and only where there is a finding of fact that the degree of guilt has been equal is the suit dismissed. 1967Application of the rule in this state was the subject of comment in Eals v. Swan, 221 La. 329 , 59 So.2d 409 (1952) wherein the court stated: “The Louisiana rule is that while mutual, equal fault operates as a bar to relief being given to either litigant, the courts consider in each case the degree of guilt, and only where there is a finding of fact that the degree of guilt has been equal is the suit dismissed. | 3 | 1954–1967 |
Bacas v. Laswell
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2 sentences1962The views expressed by us in Randall v. Ridgley, La.App., 185 So. 632 and in Bacas v. Laswell, La.App., 22 So.2d 591 , are consistent with this conclusion.” * * * * ‡ “If this reasoning is sound then, in an effort to determine who is responsible as the aggressor in an affray which is • commenced by words, it becomes necessary to determine whether the words were such as to justify the conclusion that it should have been anticipated that physical retaliation would be attempted. 1962The views expressed by us in Randall v. Ridgley, La.App., 185 So. 632 and in Bacas v. Laswell, La.App., 22 So.2d 591 , are consistent with this conclusion.” * * * * ‡ “If this reasoning is sound then, in an effort to determine who is responsible as the aggressor in an affray which is • commenced by words, it becomes necessary to determine whether the words were such as to justify the conclusion that it should have been anticipated that physical retaliation would be attempted. | 3 | 1952–1962 |
Randall v. Ridgley
green
2 sentences1962The views expressed by us in Randall v. Ridgley, La.App., 185 So. 632 and in Bacas v. Laswell, La.App., 22 So.2d 591 , are consistent with this conclusion.” * * * * ‡ “If this reasoning is sound then, in an effort to determine who is responsible as the aggressor in an affray which is • commenced by words, it becomes necessary to determine whether the words were such as to justify the conclusion that it should have been anticipated that physical retaliation would be attempted. 1962The views expressed by us in Randall v. Ridgley, La.App., 185 So. 632 and in Bacas v. Laswell, La.App., 22 So.2d 591 , are consistent with this conclusion.” * * * * ‡ “If this reasoning is sound then, in an effort to determine who is responsible as the aggressor in an affray which is • commenced by words, it becomes necessary to determine whether the words were such as to justify the conclusion that it should have been anticipated that physical retaliation would be attempted. | 3 | 1952–1962 |
State v. Williams
green
2 sentences2010This court has observed “Although the wording of the federal rule differs from the Louisiana rule, as observed by the Louisiana Supreme Court in Williams, [ 830 So.2d 984 ,] a review of federal jurisprudence reveals the two rules are virtually identical in application.” State v. Willis, 05-218, p. 27 (La.App. 3 Cir. 11/2/05), 915 So.2d 365, 386 , writ denied, 06-186 (La.6/23/06), 930 So.2d 973 . 2010This court has observed “Although the wording of the federal rule differs from the Louisiana rule, as observed by the Louisiana Supreme Court in Williams, [ 830 So.2d 984 ,] a review of federal jurisprudence reveals the two rules are virtually identical in application.” State v. Willis, 05-218, p. 27 (La.App. 3 Cir. 11/2/05), 915 So.2d 365, 386 , writ denied, 06-186 (La.6/23/06), 930 So.2d 973 . | 2 | 2005–2010 |
Leon v. Moore
green
2 sentences2007Leon v. Moore, 98-1792, p. 4 (LaApp. 1 Cir. 4/1/99), 731 So.2d 502, 504 , writ denied, 99-1294 (La.7/2/99), 747 So.2d 20 . 2007Leon v. Moore, 98-1792, p. 4 (LaApp. 1 Cir. 4/1/99), 731 So.2d 502, 504 , writ denied, 99-1294 (La.7/2/99), 747 So.2d 20 . | 2 | 2003–2007 |
McBride v. BROWN MACHINE SHOP
green
2 sentences2007Leon v. Moore, 98-1792, p. 4 (LaApp. 1 Cir. 4/1/99), 731 So.2d 502, 504 , writ denied, 99-1294 (La.7/2/99), 747 So.2d 20 . 2007Leon v. Moore, 98-1792, p. 4 (LaApp. 1 Cir. 4/1/99), 731 So.2d 502, 504 , writ denied, 99-1294 (La.7/2/99), 747 So.2d 20 . | 2 | 2003–2007 |
King v. Stranco, Inc.
neutral
2 sentences2006Additionally, in King v. Stranco, Inc., 00-2003, 00-2004, p. 4 (La.App. 1 Cir. 11/9/01), 818 So.2d 48, 50-51 , the first circuit explained: The amended LSA-C.C.P. art. 966 brings Louisiana’s standard for summary judgment closely in line with the federal standard under Fed.R.Civ.P. 56(c). 2004Additionally, in King v. Stranco, Inc., 00-2003, 00-2004, p. 4 (La.App. 1 Cir. 11/9/01), 818 So.2d 48, 50-51 , the first circuit explained: The amended LSA-C.C.P. art. 966 brings Louisiana's standard for summary judgment closely in line with the federal standard under Fed.R.Civ.P. 56(c). | 2 | 2004–2006 |
Triplette v. Exxon Corp.
green
2 sentences1995Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc., 829 F.2d at 550 ; Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., 766 F.2d 904, 907 (5th Cir.1985); Triplette v. Exxon Corporation, 554 So.2d at 1362 . 1995Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc., 829 F.2d at 550 ; Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., 766 F.2d 904, 907 (5th Cir.1985); Triplette v. Exxon Corporation, 554 So.2d at 1362 . | 2 | 1995–1995 |
Fred H. Ainsworth and Gloria Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc.
green
2 sentences1995Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc., 829 F.2d at 550 ; Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., 766 F.2d 904, 907 (5th Cir.1985); Triplette v. Exxon Corporation, 554 So.2d at 1362 . 1995Ainsworth v. Shell Offshore, Inc., 829 F.2d at 550 ; Hawkins v. Evans Cooperage Co., Inc., 766 F.2d 904, 907 (5th Cir.1985); Triplette v. Exxon Corporation, 554 So.2d at 1362 . | 2 | 1995–1995 |
State v. Holden
green
2 sentences1991State v. Smith, 415 So.2d 930 (La. 1982); State v. Holden, 375 So.2d 1372 (La. 1979). 1982In State v. Holden, 375 So.2d 1372 (La. 1979), we held that when the state intends to use a federal or non-Louisiana plea of guilty as a prior conviction in order to enhance punishment under La.R.S. 15:529.1 (Habitual Offender Law): the state is required only to prove the conviction by a plea of guilty with representation by counsel. | 2 | 1982–1991 |
Welch v. Crown Zellerbach Corp.
green
2 sentences1990Welch v. Crown Zellerbach Corporation, 359 So.2d 154 (La.1978). 1985Gremillion v. Town of Cottonport, 420 So.2d 1302 (La.App. 3rd Cir.1982); Welch v. Crown Zellerbach Corp., 359 So.2d 154 (La.1978). | 2 | 1985–1990 |
| Pisciotta v. Allstate Ins. Co. green | 2 | 1983–1984 |
| Philippe v. Browning Arms Co. green | 2 | 1983–1984 |
| Miller v. Marcantel green | 2 | 1975–1982 |
| Jenkins v. Cities Service RefinIng Corp. neutral | 2 | 1952–1958 |
| Conley v. Travelers Ins. Co. neutral | 2 | 1952–1958 |
| Bujol v. Entergy Services, Inc. green | 1 | 2024–2024 |
| Ramos v. Louisiana green | 1 | 2020–2020 |
| Contogouris v. Ocean Therapy Solutions, LLC green | 1 | 2020–2020 |
| Peveto v. WHC Contractors green | 1 | 2017–2017 |
| Hagberg v. John Bailey Contractor green | 1 | 2016–2016 |
| Maschek v. Cartemps USA green | 1 | 2016–2016 |
| Tradewinds Environmental Restoration, Inc. v. St. Tammany Park, LLC green | 1 | 2016–2016 |
| In Re Hinson-Lyles neutral | 1 | 2016–2016 |
| State v. Millien green | 1 | 2015–2015 |
| Spears v. BEAUREGARD PARISH SCHOOL BD. green | 1 | 2014–2014 |
| Eastin v. Entergy Corp. green | 1 | 2012–2012 |
| Doerr v. Mobil Oil Corp. green | 1 | 2011–2011 |
| Totty v. Dravo Corp. green | 1 | 2011–2011 |
| State v. Johnson green | 1 | 2010–2010 |
| State v. Willis green | 1 | 2010–2010 |
Counted by distinct opinions that both name this issue and are annotated to the section; sections every opinion cites regardless of issue are not filtered here, so read the counts against the total above.
Opinions by the citing court's state. A doctrine retained in one state and abandoned in another shows up here as a year span that stalls.