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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Jereme Maxwell v. John Does et al.
C.D. Ill. · 2026 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Ballance v. Illinois Department of Correction
C.D. Ill. · 2025 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Winston v. Wilkerson
C.D. Ill. · 2025 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Poff, Jeff v. Scullion
W.D. Wis. · 2025 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Winston v. Jumper (2×)
C.D. Ill. · 2024 · signal: see · quote attribution · 2 verbatim quotes · confidence high
close" status avoids the "extremes...encountered in segregation units," and the restrictions of "close" status "are too limited to amount to a deprivation of constitutional liberty
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Crayton v. Gerischer
C.D. Ill. · 2024 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Arrington v. Epperson
C.D. Ill. · 2023 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Swanson v. Scott
C.D. Ill. · 2019 · signal: see · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Lyons v. Wills
S.D. Ill. · 2024 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
examined Cited as authority (quoted) Kugler v. Donathan
C.D. Ill. · 2023 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause, and this regardless of whether the confinement is criminal or civil.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Blackburn v. Security Staff
S.D. Ill. · 2023 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Armour v. Atkins
S.D. Ill. · 2021 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Trainauskas v. Fralicker
S.D. Ill. · 2021 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (quoted) Price v. Sanders
S.D. Ill. · 2020 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence low
disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Timothy Greenlee v. Frank Vanihel Wabash Valley Warden, in their individual capacities, et al.
S.D. Ind. · 2026 · confidence medium
In other words, "if the disciplinary measures do not 'substantially worsen the conditions of confinement' of an inmate, then he has not been deprived of a protected liberty interest." Id. (quoting Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Hall v. Masters
M.D. Fla. · 2025 · confidence medium
“Disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause, Sandin v. Conner, 515 U.S. 472 , 485- 86 (1995), and this regardless of whether the confinement is criminal or civil.” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Davis v. Baldwin
S.D. Ill. · 2025 · confidence medium
Determining what is atypical and significant requires courts to analyze “the combined 20 See Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011) (explaining that when there is a deprivation of liberty or property, the “constitutional duty to provide due process . . . attaches regardless of the motive for the deprivation,” e.g., a motive to punish versus a non-punitive disorder See also, e.g., Ealy, 109 F.4th at 964 (explaining that disciplinary segregation can give rise to a protected liberty interest); Isby, 856 F.3d at 524 (holding prisoner’s time in administrative segregation implic…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) LOVE v. SEVIER
S.D. Ind. · 2025 · confidence medium
In other words, "if the disciplinary measures do not 'substantially worsen the conditions of confinement' of an inmate, then he has not been deprived of a protected liberty interest." Id. (quoting Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Herzog v. Ulrick
N.D. Ind. · 2025 · confidence medium
Thus, the placement could become unreasonable if the administrative reason for segregating the inmate had passed but he was still segregated, see Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011), or if the conditions in segregation are particularly harsh and last for a constitutionally significant period of time, see McCoy v. Atherton, 818 F. App’x 538 , 541 (7th Cir. 2020).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Herzog v. Ulrick
N.D. Ind. · 2024 · confidence medium
Thus, the placement could become unreasonable if the administrative reason for segregating the inmate had passed but he was still segregated, see Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011), or if the conditions in segregation are particularly harsh and last for a constitutionally significant period of time, see McCoy v. Atherton, 818 F. Appx. 538 , 541 (7th Cir. 2020).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Arrington v. Epperson
C.D. Ill. · 2023 · confidence medium
The deprivations Plaintiff alleges in restrictive housing typically do not trigger due process concerns, see Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011), but the hearing appears to have satisfied any procedural protections arising from this classification.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ortega v. Edgman
D.N.M. · 2023 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011) (quoting Higgs, 286 F.3d at 438 ); see also Stevenson v. Carroll, 495 F.3d 62, 69 (3d Cir. 2007) (“Although pretrial detainees do not have a liberty interest in being confined in the general prison population, they do have a liberty interest in not being detained indefinitely in the [Security Housing Unit] without explanation or review of their confinement.”).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ortega v. Edgman
D.N.M. · 2023 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011) (quoting Higgs, 286 F.3d at 438 ); see also Stevenson v. Carroll, 495 F.3d 62, 69 (3d Cir. 2007) (“Although pretrial detainees do not have a liberty interest in being confined in the general prison population, they do have a liberty interest in not being detained indefinitely in the [Security Housing Unit] without explanation or review of their confinement.”).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dyjak v. Schulte (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
S.D. Ill. · 2022 · confidence medium
See White v. Scott, 849 F. App’x 606 , 608 (7th Cir. June 14, 2021) (“[o]fficials do not violate a civil detainee’s right to due process unless they deprive the detainee of a liberty interest”); Miller v. Dobier, 634 F. 3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Mixon v. Brooks
C.D. Ill. · 2022 · confidence medium
Plaintiff alleges that unidentified jail officials told him he was in segregation “because I couldn’t get along with others.” Plaintiff states: (1) a Fourteenth Amendment claim against Defendant Dennis for the alleged verbal harassment, cf. Lisle v. Welborn, 933 F.3d 705, 718 (7th Cir. 2019); (2) a Fourteenth Amendment procedural due process claims against Defendants Williamson and Zaehringer for allegedly placing him in more restrictive confinement without a hearing, Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011); and (3) a Fourteenth Amendment procedural due process claim again…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) MAYFIELD v. WIRE
S.D. Ind. · 2022 · confidence medium
"In short, if the disciplinary measures do not 'substantially worsen the conditions of confinement" of an inmate, then he has not been deprived of a protected liberty interest." Id. (citing Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Davis v. Baldwin
S.D. Ill. · 2021 · confidence medium
Jail, 718 F.3d 689, 691 (7th Cir. 2013); Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Alvin Williams v. Chad Brown
7th Cir. · 2021 · confidence medium
Jail, 718 F.3d 689, 691 (7th Cir. 2013); Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) McGee v. Milwaukee County
E.D. Wis. · 2020 · confidence medium
(Id.) Moving from one cell to another where the water was intentionally shut off and bedding intentionally removed as punishment constitutes a disciplinary measure that “substantially worsens the conditions of confinement.” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-415 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) JACKSON v. BUTTS
S.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
"In short, if the disciplinary measures do not 'substantially worsen the conditions of confinement" of an inmate, then he has not been deprived of a protected liberty interest." Id. (citing Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) McCord v. Schmidt (2×) also: Cited "see"
E.D. Wis. · 2020 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011) (quoting Higgs v. Carver, 286 F.3d 437, 438 (7th Cir 2002)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) McGee v. Milwaukee County
E.D. Wis. · 2020 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 425 (7th Cir. 2011).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Winston v. Kullhan
C.D. Ill. · 2020 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011); Winston v. Scott, 718 F. App’x 438 , 439 (7th Cir. 2018).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Carcione v. Jones
S.D. Ill. · 2020 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011); Higgs v. Carver, 286 F.3d 437, 438 (7th Cir. 2002).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Bell v. Lessard
C.D. Ill. · 2020 · confidence medium
See Budd v. Motley, 711 F.3d 840, 842 (7th Cir. 2013); Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415-16 (7th Cir. 2011); Gill v. City of Milwaukee, 850 F.3d 335, 342 (7th Cir. 2017).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) SNELL v. ZATECKY
S.D. Ind. · 2020 · confidence medium
“Disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause . . . .” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Michael Cooper v. Steven Haw
7th Cir. · 2020 · confidence medium
(We say “at least” because Hill involved the rights of convicted prisoners facing discipline, whereas Cooper was a pre-trial detainee and therefore was entitled not to be treated “worse than a convicted criminal.” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011).) He also asserts that due process required the defendants to provide him with notice of his hearing 24 hours in advance and a hearing within 72 hours of his placement in segregation.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Michael Cooper v. Steven Haw
7th Cir. · 2020 · confidence medium
(We say “at least” because Hill involved the rights of convicted prisoners facing discipline, whereas Cooper was a pre-trial detainee and therefore was entitled not to be treated “worse than a convicted criminal.” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011).) He also asserts that due process required the defendants to provide him with notice of his hearing 24 hours in advance and a hearing within 72 hours of his placement in segregation.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Anderson, Deonte v. Sampe
W.D. Wis. · 2019 · confidence medium
In considering whether to take this step, Anderson should consider that “[d]isciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause . . . regardless of whether the confinement is criminal or civil.” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir. 2011) (citations omitted).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Winston v. Jumper
C.D. Ill. · 2019 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415-16 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Sousa v. Anglin
7th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
“Disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause,” Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir.2011), and thus Sousa cannot complain about being moved to a less desirable cell, see Townsend v. Fuchs, 522 F.3d 765, 771 (7th Cir.2008).
cited Cited as authority (rule) ArQuincy Carr v. David Beth
7th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
Jail, 666 F.3d 1037, 1039 (7th Cir.2012); Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414-15 (7th Cir.2011); Forrest v. Prine, 620 F.3d 739, 744 (7th Cir.2010).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Ronald Levi v. Brian Thomas
7th Cir. · 2011 · confidence medium
Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414 (7th Cir.2011).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Moore v. Monahan
7th Cir. · 2011 · confidence medium
See Sandin v. Conner, 515 U.S. 472, 485-86 , 115 S.Ct. 2293 , 132 L.Ed.2d 418 (1995); Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir.2011).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ricky Young v. Thomas Monahan
7th Cir. · 2011 · confidence medium
The right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment applies with equal force in the civil context, Miller v. Dobier, No. 10‐1829, 2011 WL 477046, at *2 (7th Cir. Feb. 11, 2011); Sain v. Wood, 512 F.3d 886, 893 (7th Cir. 2008), and both the Fourth and Fourteenth amendments require the government to protect inmates from violent assault.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Young v. Monahan
7th Cir. · 2011 · confidence medium
The right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment applies with equal force in the civil context, Miller v. Dobier, No. 10-1829, 2011 WL 477046, at *2 (7th Cir. Feb. 11, 2011); Sain v. Wood, 512 F.3d 886, 893 (7th Cir.2008), and both the Fourth and Fourteenth amendments require the government to protect inmates from violent assault.
discussed Cited "see" Winston v. Lucas
C.D. Ill. · 2025 · signal: see · confidence high
See Merit Review Order (Doc. 22, at 5), citing Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 415 (7th Cir. 2011) (Rushville detainee has adequately alleged he was deprived of constitutionally protected liberty interest where he was sent to segregation).
examined Cited "see" Gregory White v. Gregg Scott (4×)
7th Cir. · 2021 · signal: see · confidence high
See Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412 , 414–15 (7th Cir. 2011).
discussed Cited "see" Dustin Williamson v. Bryan Stirling
4th Cir. · 2018 · signal: see · confidence high
See Miller v. Dobier , 634 F.3d 412 , 415 (7th Cir. 2011) (observing that administrative restrictions on pretrial detainee would trigger procedural protections if resulting conditions constitute "an actionable incremental deprivation of liberty"); Stevenson v. Carroll , 495 F.3d 62 , 70 (3d Cir. 2007) (ruling that pretrial detainees transferred to more restrictive facility are entitled to explanation and "opportunity to respond") (citing Hewitt v. Helms , 459 U.S. 460 , 103 S.Ct. 864 , 74 L.Ed.2d 675 (1983) ); Benjamin v. Fraser , 264 F.3d 175 , 188 (2d Cir. 2001) (affirming decision requiring…
cited Cited "see" Bobby Brown v. Gregg Scott
7th Cir. · 2017 · signal: see · confidence high
See Miller v. Dobier, 634 F.3d 412, 414 (7th Cir. 2011).
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Dale MILLER, Plaintiff-Appellant,
v.
Diana DOBIER, Et Al., Defendants-Appellees
10-1829.
Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.
Feb 11, 2011.
634 F.3d 412
Dale Miller, Illinois Dept, of Human Services, Rushville, IL, pro se., James C. Vlahakis, Attorney, Hinshaw & Culbertson, Timothy K. McPike, Attorney, Office of the Attorney General, Civil Appeals Division, Chicago, IL, for Defendants-Appellees.
Easterbrook, Posner, Wood.
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POSNER, Circuit Judge.

Dale Miller is confined at an Illinois state institution, called Rushville, pursuant to the Sexually Violent Persons Commitment Act, 725 ILCS 207/1-99. In this suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 against officials of the institution who served on committees that disciplined him, Miller claims that the defendants denied him due process of law by failing to provide adequate procedural safeguards before disciplining him. The district court granted summary judgment for the defendants.

The suit arises from two unrelated incidents. The first occurred in August 2007, when Miller was cited for threatening a deputy sheriff. After receiving a copy of the incident report, Miller appeared before a disciplinary committee, which found that he had committed a “major” violation of[*414] facility rules by making threats and ordered him reduced to “general status” from “intermediate level C.” All new residents start in general status and during that time can purchase items from the institution’s commissary, attend special events (we are not told what these are) within their residential unit, remain out of their rooms until 10:00 p.m., use the library, exercise room, and recreation yard, have two-hour visits from family members and friends, and borrow a typewriter. After 180 days of good behavior in general status, residents are advanced to intermediate status, which has three levels, beginning with C. Residents in intermediate status C are permitted, in addition to doing what general status permits, to attend special events throughout the institution, remain in their residential unit’s day room for late-night special events, borrow electronic equipment (again, we’re not told what equipment), receive longer visits, and stay out of their rooms until 10:45 p.m. In addition, because Miller’s infraction had been characterized as major, he was required to wear for the next year “black box” handcuffs on all trips outside the institution. The “black box” is a plastic box placed between the hands and over the apparatus that connects and locks the handcuffs. Knox v. McGinnis, 998 F.2d 1405,1407 (7th Cir.1993).

Miller’s second infraction occurred in July 2008. While temporarily housed in a medical isolation room in the infirmary because he had a contagious skin condition, he allegedly damaged a dresser, used it to try to break a window, and threatened staff. He was immediately placed in “special management” status pending a disciplinary hearing. That status authorizes confining residents in their rooms, a prescribed living area, or “any other area designated by the Program Director.” A resident in special management may also be placed in solitary confinement or subjected to involuntary medication, but Miller does not claim to have been subjected to either imposition. A disciplinary committee convened a hearing, which Miller did not attend; he was still medically quarantined because of his skin condition and he had not received a copy of the allegations against him.

The committee sustained the allegations of threats, intimidation, and damage to state property and Miller was then placed in what is called “close” status for 30 days, during which time his curfew was 9:30 p.m. and family visits were limited to an hour and he was denied yard privileges, barred from attending special events, and forbidden use of the library, exercise room, and typewriter.

Miller claims that, just like convicted prisoners accused of disciplinary violations, civilly committed persons are constitutionally entitled to “advance written notice of the charges, the chance to present testimony and documentary evidence to an impartial decisionmaker, and a written explanation, supported by at least ‘some evidence’ in the record, for any disciplinary action taken.” Lagerstrom v. Kingston, 463 F.3d 621, 624 (7th Cir.2006); see Superintendent, Mass. Correctional Institution v. Hill, 472 U.S. 445, 454, 105 S.Ct. 2768, 86 L.Ed.2d 356 (1985); Wolff v. McDonnell, 418 U.S. 539, 563-67, 94 S.Ct. 2963, 41 L.Ed.2d 935 (1974); Piggie v. Cotton, 344 F.3d 674, 677 (7th Cir.2003). He submitted evidence that he did not receive these procedural protections, but the evidence is immaterial if the district judge was right in ruling that Miller was entitled to no procedural safeguards because the disciplinary measures to which he was subjected did not deprive him of liberty within the meaning of the due process clause.

Disciplinary measures that do not substantially worsen the conditions of[*415] confinement of a lawfully confined person are not actionable under the due process clause, Sandin v. Conner, 515 U.S. 472, 485-86, 115 S.Ct. 2293, 132 L.Ed.2d 418 (1995), and this regardless of whether the confinement is criminal or civil. See West v. Schwebke, 333 F.3d 745, 748 (7th Cir. 2003); Thielman v. Leean, 282 F.3d 478, 484 (7th Cir.2002); Leamer v. Fauver, 288 F.3d 532, 545-46 (3d Cir.2002). Language in a few cases could be read to suggest that a pretrial detainee or a civil detainee does not have the same rights as prison inmates unless the challenged restriction imposed on him is intended as punishment. See Rapier v. Harris, 172 F.3d 999, 1005-06 (7th Cir.1999); Baribeau v. City of Minneapolis, 596 F.3d 465, 483 (8th Cir. 2010) (per curiam); Fuentes v. Wagner, 206 F.3d 335, 342 (3d Cir.2000). But such a reading cannot be correct if it means that a person detained without having been convicted of a crime can be treated worse than a convicted criminal. What is true is that civil detainees who are more disruptive than prison inmates can be subjected to greater restrictions without those restrictions constituting punishment. But such detainees still have the same right as criminals to complain of a deprivation of liberty without due process of law if the restrictions constitute a deprivation of liberty within the meaning of the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court (with reference we think to all types of detainee) in Sandin. The meaning or scope of “liberty” and “property” in the due process clause is not a function of motive — a motive to punish rather than a motive to prevent disorder or other harm that might be caused by someone who could not be punished because he had a sound defense of mental incapacity. Without a deprivation of liberty or property (or life, but that is irrelevant to this case) there is no constitutional duty to provide due process; but if there is such a deprivation the duty attaches regardless of the motive for the deprivation. Wallace v. Robinson, 940 F.2d 243, 247-48 (7th Cir. 1991) (en banc).

We did suggest in Higgs v. Carver, 286 F.3d 437, 438 (7th Cir.2002), a distinction between placing a pretrial detainee in segregation “not as punishment but for managerial reasons” that would not require notice and a hearing — for example if the only vacant cell in the jail when the prisoner arrived was in the segregation unit, or the prisoner was considered a suicide risk, or he had to be protected from other prisoners or other prisoners from him; for these were measures that would have to be taken immediately, without time for notice and a hearing in advance. We did not mean to suggest that once the emergency was past, the jail could nevertheless keep the prisoner in segregation indefinitely without providing the procedural safeguards encapsulated in the term “due process” because it was not “punishing” him, if conditions in the segregation unit were so much more restrictive than those in the rest of the jail as to constitute an actionable incremental deprivation of liberty.

The “if’ qualification is critical. Even when Miller was in “close” status, he was free to leave his cell for most of the day, to receive visitors, and in this and other respects to avoid extremes of close confinement such as are encountered in segregation units. It is because intermediate status is so loose that general status or close status seems confining; but the additional restrictions are too limited to amount to a deprivation of constitutional liberty. Lekas v. Briley, 405 F.3d 602, 611 (7th Cir.2005); Allison v. Snyder, 332 F.3d 1076, 1079 (7th Cir.2003).

Affirmed.