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cited Cited as authority (rule) Commonwealth v. Cordero
Mass. · 2017 · confidence medium
Such a flimsy factor should not be allowed to justify — or help justify — the stopping of travelers . ...” United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 (1979).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Boyett v. State
Tex. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
Compare, e.g., United States v. Moore, 675 F.2d 802, 803 (CA6 1982) (suspect was first to deplane), cert. denied, 460 U.S. 1068 , 103 S.Ct. 1521 , 75 L.Ed.2d 945 (1983), with United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544, 564 , 100 S.Ct. 1870, 1882 , 64 L.Ed.2d 497 (1980) (last to deplane), with United States v. Buenaventura-Ariza, 615 F.2d 29, 31 (CA2 1980) (deplaned from middle); United States v. Sullivan, 625 F.2d 9, 12 (CA4 1980) (one-way tickets), with United States v. Craemer, 555 F.2d 594, 595 (CA6 1977) (round-trip tickets), with United States v. McCaleb, 552 F.2d 717, 720 (CA6 1977) (nons…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Bohanon
E.D. Tenn. · 2009 · confidence medium
“Although nervousness may be considered as part of the overall circumstances giving rise to a reasonable suspicion, [the Sixth Circuit] has found nervousness inherently unsuspicious, and has therefore given it very limited or no weight in the reasonable-suspicion calculation.” Urrieta, 520 F.3d at 577 (emphasis in original) (citing United States v. Richardson, 385 F.3d 625, 630-31 (6th Cir.2004); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.1979)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Urrieta (2×)
6th Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
As this court has noted, however, travel between population centers is a relativity weak indicator of illegal activity because there is almost no city in the country that could not be “characterize[d] as either a major narcotics distribution center or a city through which drug couriers pass on their way to a major narcotics distribution center.” United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 567 (6th Cir. 1979); see also United States v. Townsend, 305 F.3d 537, 543 (6th Cir. 2002) (holding that a trip between Chicago, Illinois and Columbus, Ohio does not give rise to a reasonable suspicion that t…
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Urrieta (4×)
6th Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
As this court has noted, however, travel between population centers is a relativity weak indicator of illegal activity because there is almost no city in the country that could not be “charaeterize[d] as either a major narcotics distribution center or a city through which drug couriers pass on their way to a major narcotics distribution center.” United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 567 (6th Cir.1979); see also United States v. Townsend, 305 F.3d 537, 543 (6th Cir.2002) (holding that a trip between Chicago, Illinois and Columbus, Ohio does not give rise to a reasonable suspicion that the…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Antonio R. Henry
6th Cir. · 2005 · confidence medium
See, e.g., Richardson, 385 F.3d at 630-31 ; Joshua v. DeWitt, 341 F.3d 430, 445 (6th Cir.2003); United States v. Smith, 263 F.3d 571, 591 (6th Cir.2001); Mesa, 62 F.3d at 163 ; United States v. Grant, 920 F.2d 376, 386 (6th Cir.1991); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Henry
6th Cir. · 2005 · confidence medium
See, e.g., Richardson, 385 F.3d at 630-31 ; Joshua v. DeWitt, 341 F.3d 430, 445 (6th Cir. 2003); United States v. Smith, 263 F.3d 571, 591 (6th Cir. 2001); Mesa, 62 F.3d at 163 ; United States v. Grant, 920 F.2d 376, 386 (6th Cir. 1991); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 (1979).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Ronald Cortez Foreman (2×)
4th Cir. · 2004 · confidence medium
We have previously remarked that courts place too much weight on travel from alleged "source cities." See United States v. Wilson, 953 F.2d 116, 125-26 (4th Cir.1991) ("[T]he vast number of persons coming from those `source cities' relegates this factor to a relatively insignificant role.") (citation omitted); see also Reid v. Georgia, 448 U.S. 438, 441 , 100 S.Ct. 2752 , 65 L.Ed.2d 890 (1980) (holding that defendant's arrival from "source city" was an insufficient foundation for reasonable suspicion and stating the "circumstances describe a very large category of presumably innocent travelers…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Nathan v. State (2×)
Md. · 2002 · confidence medium
United States v. Wood, 106 F.3d 942, 948 (10th Cir.1997); Gonzalez-Rivera v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 22 F.3d 1441, 1447 (9th Cir.1994); Buffkins v. City of Omaha, 922 F.2d 465 , 470 n. 13 (8th Cir.1990); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.1979), cert. denied sub nom.
examined Cited as authority (rule) State v. Stovall (4×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
N.J. · 2002 · confidence medium
Compare, e.g., United States v. Moore, 675 F.2d 802, 803 (6th Cir.1982) (suspect was first to deplane), cert. denied, 460 U.S. 1068 , 103 S.Ct. 1521 , 75 L.Ed.2d 945 (1983), with United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544, 564 , 100 S.Ct. 1870, 1882 , 64 L.Ed.2d 497 (1980) (last to deplane), with United States v. Buenaventurar-Ariza, 615 F.2d 29, 31 (2d Cir.1980) (deplaned from middle); United States v. Sullivan, 625 F.2d 9, 12 (4th Cir.1980) (one-way tickets), with United States v. Craemer, 555 F.2d 594, 595 (6th Cir.1977) (round-trip tickets), with United States v. McCaleb, 552 F.2d 717, 720 …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rhonda Brent v. United States
11th Cir. · 2001 · confidence medium
However, this general observation of Brent’s nervousness, standing alone, cannot provide “reasonable suspicion” to justify the strip search. 8 See United States v. Tapia, 912 F.2d 1367, 1371 (11th Cir.1990) (holding that no reasonable suspicion existed to support detention when suspect appeared visibly nervous during confrontation with officers, and had few pieces of luggage); accord United States v. White, 890 F.2d 1413, 1417 (8th Cir.1989) (finding insufficient evidence to support reasonable suspicion for stop where defendant bought airline ticket with cash, arrived on flight known to …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rhonda Brent v. United States
11th Cir. · 2001 · confidence medium
If either a nervous or calm reaction to questioning can, by itself, support a finding of reasonable suspicion, an inspector could justify a search of anyone. 13 nervous during confrontation with officers, and had few pieces of luggage); accord United States v. White, 890 F.2d 1413, 1417 (8th Cir. 1989) (finding insufficient evidence to support reasonable suspicion for stop where defendant bought airline ticket with cash, arrived on flight known to be used by narcotics traffickers, and acted nervous and suspicious in the airport); Grant, 920 F.2d at 386 (“[n]ervousness is entirely consistent …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ferris v. State (2×)
Md. · 1999 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. Wood, 106 F.3d 942, 948 (10th Cir.1997); Gonzalez-Rivera v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 22 F.3d 1441, 1447 (9th Cir.1994); Buffkins v. City of Omaha, 922 F.2d 465 , 470 n. 13 (8th Cir.1990); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6 th Cir.1979), cert. denied sub nom.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Angela Travis (2×)
6th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
Although we have looked skeptically in the past on police claims that they may legitimately target passengers from "source cities," Jennings, at * 5; United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979), the detectives here accumulated information about the defendant that legitimately led them to suspect she might be a drug courier.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Karnes v. Skrutski & Kowalski
3rd Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 (1979). 0 We do not suggest that geography is an irrelevant factor for this totality of the circumstances test.
cited Cited as authority (rule) George Karnes v. Thomas Skrutski, in His Individual Capacity Edward Kowalski, in His Individual Capacity
3rd Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979). 8 .
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Kenneth Daugherty, as Personal Representative of Lenora Daugherty, Deceased v. Donal Campbell (2×)
6th Cir. · 1994 · confidence medium
In construing Adams , this court has recognized that “the Adams’ tipster’s conclusory statements that a man seated in a car possessed a gun carried no ‘indicia of reliability’ ” and that the reasonableness of the officer’s suspicion in that case turned entirely on “the source of the information!,] the tipster who was known and at the scene.” United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 568 (6th Cir.) (Keith, J.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Darden
Md. Ct. Spec. App. · 1992 · confidence medium
“Nervousness is entirely con *386 sistent with innocent behavior, especially at an airport where a traveller may be anticipating a long-awaited rendezvous with friends or family.” U.S. v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.1979).
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Eddie Louis Taylor (4×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
6th Cir. · 1992 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. Hooper, 935 F.2d 484 (2d Cir.1991) (Pratt, J., dissenting) ("The 'drug courier profile' ... is so fluid that it can be used to justify designating anyone a potential drug courier if the DEA agents so choose."), cert. denied, --- U.S. ----, 112 S.Ct. 663 , 116 L.Ed.2d 754 (1991); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (6th Cir.1979) ("[O]ur experience with DEA agent testimony ... makes us wonder whether there exists any city in the country which a DEA agent will not characterize as either a major narcotics distribution center or a city through which drug cour…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Terrance A. Williams (2×)
6th Cir. · 1991 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
Cf. United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.) (holding that travel from a “source city” cannot be regarded as in any way suspicious), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979).
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Harold Evan Grant (6×) also: Cited "see"
6th Cir. · 1991 · confidence medium
This court's traditional test asks: in light of all of the circumstances, would "a reasonable person ... have believed that he or she was not free to walk away." See United States v. Saperstein, 723 F.2d 1221, 1225 (6th Cir.1983); Clardy, 819 F.2d at 672 . 35 In considering whether a police-citizen airport encounter constitutes a seizure or a consensual encounter, the federal courts have often focused on three factors: (1) the conduct of the police, United States v. Garcia, 866 F.2d 147, 150 (6th Cir.1989); United States v. Knox, 839 F.2d 285, 289-90 (6th Cir.1988), cert. denied, 490 U.S. 1019…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Elaine Griffin Gardner, Also Known as Elaine Hilda Gardner, Also Known as Roxanne Gardner, Also Known as Elaine Garner
6th Cir. · 1989 · confidence medium
Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143, 147 (1972). 10 In United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 570 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 (1979), this court stated that "information from an unknown informant will support a stop if sufficiently detailed and/or corroborated." In Andrews, an anonymous informant told a DEA agent the suspect's name and description, the flight on which he was arriving and the types of drugs which he was carrying for delivery to a known drug dealer.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Jones (2×)
Ill. App. Ct. · 1989 · confidence medium
There, Justice Marshall made note of the so-called DEA "profile" and its multiple, "chameleon-like way of adapting to any particular set of circumstances." He then listed the following authorities as illustrative of those judicially approved flexible adjustments: "Compare, e.g., United States v. Moore, 675 F.2d 802, 803 (suspect was first to deplane), with United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544, 564 (last to deplane), with United States v. Buenaventura-Ariza, 615 F.2d 29, 31 (deplaned from middle); United States v. Sullivan, 625 F.2d 9, 12 (one-way tickets), with United States v. Craemer, 5…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Sokolow (2×)
SCOTUS · 1989 · confidence medium
Compare, e. g., United States v. Moore, 675 F. 2d 802, 803 (CA6 1982) (suspect was first to deplane), cert. denied, 460 U. S. 1068 (1983), with United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U. S. 544, 564 (1980) (last to deplane), with United States v. Buenaventura-Ariza, 615 F. 2d 29, 31 (CA2 1980) (deplaned from middle); United States v. Sullivan, 625 F. 2d 9, 12 (CA4 1980) (one-way tickets), with United States v. Craemer, 555 F. 2d 594, 595 (CA6 1977) (round-trip tickets), with United States v. McCaleb, 552 F. 2d 717, 720 (CA6 1977) (nonstop flight), with United States v. Sokolow, 808 F. 2d 1366, 1370 (…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Scott Richard Seelye
8th Cir. · 1987 · confidence medium
In United States v. McBride, 801 F.2d 1045 (8th Cir.1986), this court quoted with approval a decision of the Sixth Circuit, United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 569-70 (6th Cir.) (citations omitted), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979), where it was held that information from an unknown informant, if sufficiently detailed and corroborated, will justify an investigative stop.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Perry L. McBride and Roy Villanueva
8th Cir. · 1986 · confidence medium
See also United States v. Porter, 738 F.2d 622, 625 (4th Cir.) (en banc) (“An informant’s tip can provide the justification for a Terry stop even if the informant’s reliability is unknown * * *.”), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 983 , 105 S.Ct. 389 , 83 L.Ed.2d 323 , (1984); United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 569-70 (6th Cir.) (citing cases as standing for the proposition that “information from an unknown informant will support a stop if sufficiently detailed and/or corroborated”), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979).
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Ricardo Alonza Gomez, Antonio Reyes Espinoza and Gilbert Barnett Hartman (3×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
5th Cir. · 1985 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. Kent, 691 F.2d at 1380 ; United States v. White, 648 F.2d at 41 ; United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 569 (6th Cir.), cert. denied sub nom.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Steven E. Saperstein (2×)
6th Cir. · 1983 · confidence medium
United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.1979) (nervousness deemed entirely consistent with behavior among innocent airport travelers and is entitled to no weight).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Mark J. Kent
11th Cir. · 1982 · confidence medium
See United States v. McClinnhan, 660 F.2d 500, 502 (D.C.Cir.1981) (reasonable suspicion necessary to justify stop and frisk could be based on “anonymous tip that, while lacking indicia of reliability, was corroborated in every significant detail” by prestop observation); United States v. White, 648 F.2d 29, 43 (D.C.Cir.1981) (“An anonymous tip about an ongoing transaction, detailed as to time and place, including a specific description of one of the participants and their vehicles as well as their modus operandi, and verified by the officers through surveillance in all details except for…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Casey (2×)
N.C. Ct. App. · 1982 · confidence medium
Reid v. Georgia, 448 U.S. at 441 , 65 L.Ed. 2d at 894 , 100 S.Ct. at 2754 (arrival from Fort Lauderdale is a circumstance describing a very large category of presumably innocent travelers); United States v. Scott, 545 F. 2d 38, 40, n. 2 (8th Cir. 1976), cert. denied 429 U.S. 1066 , 50 L.Ed. 2d 784 , 97 S.Ct. 796 (1977) (“traveling from Los Angeles, [it being known ‘that Los Angeles, California is a major distribution area for Mexican heroin,’] (has) little or no probative value”); United States v. Andrews, 600 F. 2d 563, 566-567 (6th Cir. 1979) (“Similarily, travel from Los Angeles c…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Collis
E.D. Mich. · 1981 · confidence medium
In United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (6th Cir. 1979), where the “source” city was Los Angeles, the Court noted that “such a flimsy factor should not be allowed to justify — or help justify — the stopping of travelers from the nation’s third largest city.” That Defendant was among the first to disembark is also of little importance, especially in light of the fact that DEA agents, in other cases, have considered (1) the last passenger to disembark as an indicia of criminal conduct, United States v. Vasquez, 612 F.2d 1338 (2d Cir. 1980), (2) one of the middle of a line…
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Stephenson (3×) also: Cited "see"
E.D. Mich. · 1979 · confidence medium
Id. at 568. 63 .
cited Cited "see" People v. Stoddard
Ill. App. Ct. · 1993 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Andrews (6th Cir. 1979), 600 F.2d 563 ; Breeding, 219 Ill.
cited Cited "see" United States v. John Curtis Jennings
6th Cir. · 1993 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (6th Cir.), cert. denied sub nom.
discussed Cited "see" Lu Ann Buffkins v. City of Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, a Municipal Corporation Alvin Grigsby And, John Friend
8th Cir. · 1991 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.) (nervousness is entitled to no weight because it is consistent with behavior of innocent airport travellers), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979); United States v. Gooding, 695 F.2d 78, 84 (4th Cir.1982). 14 .In a section 1983 action, the jury decides whether or not an individual has been seized within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment only if reasonable persons could differ on the conclusions to be drawn from the evidence.
discussed Cited "see" People v. Kiser
Ill. App. Ct. · 1983 · signal: accord · confidence high
App. 3d 297, 299-300 ; accord, United States v. Andrews (6th Cir. 1979), 600 F.2d 563, 566-67 (the court’s experience with DEA agents’ testimony made it questionable whether there exists any city in the country which a DEA agent would not characterize as a source city).) Being one of the first passengers to deplane provides no support from which to base a reasonable suspicion.
discussed Cited "see" United States v. Jesse Lee Sanford
5th Cir. · 1981 · signal: see · confidence high
See generally, U. S. v. Robinson, supra at 1215 4 Nervousness may, in fact, be "entirely consistent with innocent behavior, especially at an airport where a traveller may be anticipating a long-awaited rendevous with friends or family." United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563 (6th Cir. 1979) 1 "Agent Markonni stated to (Sanford) that he had a right to refuse to allow a search to be made of his person or personal property, that he had the right to consult with an attorney before deciding whether he wished to consent to a search and that if he consented and if any illegal object was found that it…
cited Cited "see, e.g." Salcedo v. People
Colo. · 2000 · signal: compare · confidence low
Compare United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563 (6th Cir.1979) with United States v. Himmelwright, 551 F.2d 991 (5th Cir.1977).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States of America, Cross-Appellee v. Ali Shameizadeh, A/K/A Ali Zadeh and Brian Reed, Joe Ford (2×)
6th Cir. · 1994 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence low
See, e.g., Andrews, supra, 600 F.2d at 565 n. 2; Olt, supra, 492 F.2d at 912 ; Becker, supra, 929 F.2d at 447 ; Becker, supra, 850 F.2d at 1362 .
discussed Cited "see, e.g." State v. Kennison
N.H. · 1991 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence low
See, e.g., United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563 (6th Cir. 1979); United States v. Sierra-Hernandez, 581 F.2d 760 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 439 U.S. 936 (1978); United States v. Jones, 599 F.2d 1058 (9th Cir. 1979); United States v. Gorin, 564 F.2d 159 (4th Cir. 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1080 (1978).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Eddie Louis Taylor (2×)
6th Cir. · 1990 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 878 , 100 S.Ct. 166 , 62 L.Ed.2d 108 (1979) (nervousness deemed consistent with behavior among innocent airport travelers and is entitled to no weight); United States v. McCaleb, 552 F.2d 717, 720 (6th Cir.1977) (circumstances where DEA agent observed three persons, two of whom were nervous, return on nonstop flight from Los Angeles to Detroit after short trip with only one suitcase did not provide specific and articulable facts to warrant investigatory stop).
cited Cited "see, e.g." Peschel v. State
Alaska Ct. App. · 1989 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence medium
See, e.g., *1147 United States v. Andrews, 600 F.2d 563, 566 (6th Cir.1979).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." White v. United States; And Anderson v. United States (2×)
SCOTUS · 1981 · signal: compare · confidence low
Compare United States v. McLeroy, 584 F. 2d 746 (CA5 1978), and United States v. Robinson, 536 F. 2d 1298 (CA9 1976) (no reasonable suspicion), with United States v. Rodriguez Perez, 626 F. 2d 1021 (CA1 1980), and United States v. Andrews, 600 F. 2d 563 (CA6) (reasonable suspicion), cert. denied, 444 U. S. 878 (1979).
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UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellant,
v.
Tallice ANDREWS, Defendant-Appellee
78-5165.
Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.
Jul 18, 1979.
600 F.2d 563
James K. Robinson, U. S. Atty., Victoria A. Toensing, Asst. U. S. Atty., Detroit, Mich., for plaintiff-appellant., Richard R. Nelson, Detroit, Mich., for defendant-appellee.
Keith, Merritt, Green.
Cited by 89 opinions  |  Published
Damon J. KEITH, Circuit Judge.

This is yet another case involving a stop, frisk and subsequent arrest by DEA agent Paul Markonni at the Detroit Metropolitan Airport. Unlike the “typical” Detroit Metro Airport case [1] , this case does not involve a stop based on the much abused drug courier profile, but presents a rare instance of an anonymous tip providing the basis for the stop. Because we conclude that the district court erred in its determination that the initial stop of the defendant was unreasonable, we reverse and remand for further proceedings.

I

The full facts of this case, as found by the District Court are as follows:

On November 16, 1975, agents of the DEA received a phone call from an anonymous source who stated that Tallice Andrews would arrive at Detroit’s Metropolitan Airport from Los Angeles at approximately 4:00 p. m. that day in the company of either a Negro male or a Negro female. The caller stated that Mr. Andrews would be carrying a quantity of heroin to be delivered to Sylvester Rhine, known to the agents as a local heroin trafficker. The caller described Mr. Andrews as a black male, dark complexioned, 25 or 26 years old, 5 feet, 10 inches tall with long processed hair, combed back.
The agents met the only flight arriving from Los Angeles at approximately 4:00 p. m. that day — American Airlines Flight 68. The agents watched passengers deplane from that flight. They observed a man deplane who fit Tallice Andrews’ description. Near him, in a manner that suggested they were with him, but desired not to give that impression, were a Negro male and a Negro female. Mr.[*565] Andrews’ two companions appeared nervous. Mr. Andrews did not. The agents observed the three go to the baggage claim area where they picked up five bags. The two males each carried two bags and the female took the last one. As the three approached a cab outside the baggage claim area, Agents Paul Mar-konni and Doug Wankel stopped them and asked for identification. Fannie Braswell produced a driver’s license in that name. Thurston Brooks stated he was Thurston Brooks but had no identification. Tallice Andrews first stated his name was James Johnson and that he was without identification. He later produced a birth certificate in the name of Tallice Arthur Andrews. When the agents asked to see the group’s airline tickets Tallice Andrews produced tickets in the names of James Johnson, John Johnson, and Debra Thompson. Further inquiry elicited the assertion that the two males had come to Detroit together but that they had only met the female at the Los Angeles Airport. The agents then observed that all five bags had the name James Johnson on the outside.
At this point, the three were in effect placed under arrest for violation of narcotics laws and taken to a room inside the terminal. A search of their persons revealed no contraband. The suitcases in Mr. Andrews’ possession were opened after he supplied the agents with a keyring containing two keys. No narcotics were discovered, but there was a box of live ammunition in one of the suitcases. Upon requesting the keys to the other suitcases Mr. Andrews gave the agents a keyring with only one key on it. Agent Markonni searched Mr. Andrews and discovered a key that opened the remaining suitcases. Two handguns were found inside these suitcases. No narcotics were found at this time. The Michigan authorities arrested Ms. Braswell and Mr. Andrews for violations of the Michigan concealed weapons law. Mr. Brooks was released.
A short while later the agents received a phone call from the Wayne County Sheriff’s Department requesting them to return to the room in which the search of the defendants had been conducted. When they arrived Officer McCants informed the agents that he had unlocked the door, entered and discovered a package of heroin secreted under some cushions on the couch. The spot he found the heroin was approximately where Ms. Braswell had been sitting throughout the search.
Fannie Braswell testified that she had carried the heroin under her pants. In most respects her testimony corroborated that of Agent Markonni and Officer McCants. She testified that she had come from Los Angeles with Defendant Brooks and Andrews and that while the search of the suitcases was going on, she removed the heroin from her pants and placed it under the cushion of the couch.

II

The above-cited facts present a host of Fourth Amendment issues. Only one issue on which the district judge ruled is before us on this appeal by the government — the legality of the initial stop of Tallice Andrews. [2]

The district court analyzed the facts and concluded that the DEA agents had insufficient grounds for the stop. Applying the “two pronged” probable cause test advanced in Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108, 84 S.Ct. 1509, 12 L.Ed.2d 723 (1964) and Spineili v. United States, 393 U.S. 410, 89 S.Ct. 584, 21 L.Ed.2d 637 (1969); the district court reasoned that the tip was insufficient under both prongs of the test and was thus inadequate even to provide reasonable suspicion for a stop.

[*566] Inasmuch as the tipster was anonymous, and refused to provide any information about himself, even when asked to do so, we must agree that the first Aguilar-Spinelli prong was not met since there is no way that we can characterize the informant as reliable. We may also assume that the tip itself was insufficient to meet the second Aguilar-Spinelli prong since there was nothing contained in the tip from which an independent magistrate could have determined how the informant obtained his information.

Nonetheless, we feel that these circumstances were such that a stop — although not necessarily an arrest — was justified. The facts on which the initial stop of Andrews and his companions was based were (1) the information contained in the anonymous tip. [3] (2) The agent’s personal knowledge and observations. (The agents corroborated the tip in that a man meeting Andrews description did arrive on a flight approximately when indicated, accompanied by a black man and woman. Also, the agents knew of Sylvester Rhine’s reputation as a drug trafficker) (3) nervousness of two of the three individuals, (4) the fact that the defendants were travelling from Los Ange-les, an alleged narcotics distribution center.

We agree with the district court that nervousness by two of Andrews’ companions should be entitled to no weight. Nervousness is entirely consistent with innocent behavior, especially at an airport where a traveller may be anticipating a long-awaited rendezvous with friends or family. [4] See United States v. McCaleb, 552 F.2d 717, 720 (6th Cir. 1977); United States v. McClain, 452 F.Supp. 195, 200 n.3 (E.D.Mich.1977).

Similarly, travel from Los Angeles cannot be regarded as in any way suspicious. Los Angeles may indeed be a major narcotics distribution center, but the probability that any given airplane passenger from that city is a drug courier is infinitesimally small. Such a flimsy factor should not be allowed to justify — or help justify — the stopping of travellers from the nation’s third largest city. See United States v. McCaleb, supra at 720; United States v. Scott, 545 F.2d 38, 40 n.2 (8th Cir. 1976), cert. denied, 429 U.S. 1066, 97 S.Ct. 796, 50 L.Ed.2d 784 (1977). Moreover, our experience with DEA agent testimony in other cases makes us wonder[*567] whether there exists any city in the country which a DEA agent will not characterize as either a major narcotics distribution center or a city through which drug couriers pass on their way to a major narcotics distribution center.

As the district court recognized, the issue presented by this case is whether the informant’s tip, coupled with the agents’ knowledge and observations was enough to justify a stop. The tip itself was somewhat specific in that Andrews was named and accurately described, as was the flight on which he was arriving and that the drugs which he was allegedly carrying were to be delivered to a named individual. Still, there was no basis given for the information, and it cannot be said to have been so detailed that a magistrate “could reasonably infer that the informant had gained his information in a reliable way.” Spinelli v. United States, 393 U.S. 410, 417, 89 S.Ct. 584, 589, 21 L.Ed.2d 637 (1969).

The reasonably detailed tip, however, was corroborated in two respects. First, Agent Markonni testified that Sylvester Rhine, the named person to whom the drugs were supposed to be delivered, was a known Detroit narcotics dealer whom Markonni had investigated in the past. Second, a person meeting the tipster’s description of Andrews arrived on a flight from Los Angeles approximately when the informant stated that he would.

We do not need to determine the continued vitality of language in Spinelli, supra 393 U.S. at 414, 89 S.Ct. 584 that a suspect’s reputation is irrelevant to a probable cause determination, in light of the disapproval of this language expressed by Chief Justice Burger and two of his colleagues in United States v. Harris, 403 U.S. 573, 580-83, 91 S.Ct. 2075, 29 L.Ed.2d 723 (1971) (plurality opinion). Agent Markonni’s personal knowledge of Rhine is far different from a case where a suspect possesses a general criminal reputation. [5] When this knowledge was combined with Andrews’ arrival in conformity with the tipster’s reasonably detailed tip, we think that the agents had sufficient basis to stop and question Andrews.

We note that we are not dealing with the issue of probable cause for an arrest, but with reasonable suspicion for a stop. In Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 88 S.Ct. 1868, 20 L.Ed.2d 889 (1968) the Supreme Court first advanced the reasonable suspicion test which allowed law enforcement officers to stop persons on the street when the officer’s observations reasonably raised suspicion of criminal conduct. [6] Efforts to confine Terry -stops to dangerous crimes or to limit their applicability to situations where the police officer had personally observed the suspicious conduct in question were rejected by the Supreme Court in Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143, 92 S.Ct. 1921, 32 L.Ed.2d 612 (1972). Like this case, Adams involved a stop based on information provided to law enforcement officers by a tipster. [7] Unlike[*568] this case, the informant in Adams was personally known to the officer, had provided information in the past and was present at the scene. There, the informant told the officer, simply, that a person seated in a nearby vehicle was carrying narcotics and had a gun at his waist. Rejecting any particular rule to be applied, the court concluded that the informant’s tip “carried enough indicia of reliability to justify the officer’s forcible stop of Williams.” Id. at 147, 92 S.Ct. at 1924.

In Adams, the “indicia of reliability” was provided by the source of the information— the tipster who was known and at the scene. On the other hand, the Adams’ tipster’s conclusory statements — that a man seated in a car possessed a gun — carried no “indicia of reliability.” Here, we have the opposite case — the informant is completely unknown, but his information was detailed and corroborated. We think that the detail and corroboration in this case provided sufficient “indicia of reliability” to warrant a limited stop for questioning of Andrews. [8]

Appellees emphasize that the tip failed both prongs of the Aguilar-Spinelli test [9] and that the only corroboration which took place was of innocuous conduct — the arrival of Andrews at the airport. Appellees urge that “the corroborating information must confirm that the arrestee committed the felony or was in the process of committing the felony.” United States v. Jackson, 533 F.2d 314, 318 (6th Cir. 1976), citing Whiteley v. Warden, 401 U.S. 560, 567, 91 S.Ct. 1031, 28 L.Ed.2d 306 (1971).

Justice Harlan’s language in Whiteley concerning the type of conduct which need be corroborated to raise a deficient tip to probable cause levels has caused difficulty. Compare the majority and dissenting opinions in United States v. Edmond, 548 F.2d 1256 (6th Cir. 1977). [10] Further, Justice Harlan in Whiteley, supra 401 U.S. at 567, 91 S.Ct. 1031 favorably cited the corroboration of the informant’s tip which occurred in Draper v. United States, 358 U.S. 307, 79 S.Ct. 329, 3 L.Ed.2d 327 (1959). Yet an examination of the facts in Draper reveals that the only conduct corroborated by the police could also be deemed innocent — a man arrived at a train station at one of two times specified by an informant and wore clothing closely corresponding to the informant’s detailed description. See Spinelli v. United States, 393 U.S. 410, 423-29, 89 S.Ct. 584, 21 L.Ed.2d 637 (1969) (White, J. concurring).

The solution to this seeming paradox can perhaps be found in Justice Harlan’s explanation of Draper in Spinelli v. United States, 393 U.S. 410, 417-18, 89 S.Ct. 584, 590, 21 L.Ed.2d 637 (1969): “It was then apparent that the informant [in Draper] had not been fabricating his report out of whole cloth; since the report was of the sort which in common experience may be[*569] recognized as having been obtained in a reliable way, it was perfectly clear that probable cause had been established.” [11]

We need not define here the exact nature of the information which must be corroborated to warrant a probable cause determination. Although this informant’s tip did not possess the detail furnished by the informant in Draper, the anonymous tipster’s description of Andrews was accurate, as was Andrews’ predicted arrival on the flight from Los Angeles. [12] The additional added factor of Sylvester Rhine’s reputation further indicated that this report was not fabricated “out of whole cloth.” Considering that we are dealing with a lowered standard of reasonable suspicion, [13] and not with probable cause, we conclude that Agent Markonni had sufficient reasonable suspicion to stop and question Andrews.

The one Circuit which has squarely addressed a similar situation involving an anonymous tip has sustained a stop on facts far flimsier than the ones here. In Ojeda-Vinales v. Immigration & Naturalization Serv., 523 F.2d 286 (2d Cir. 1975), an anonymous tipster informed the Immigration and Naturalization Service that an undocumented alien named Jose was working as a mechanic at a given address. Agents went to the shop in question and verified that a Jose worked there as a mechanic. Held: sufficient reasonable suspicion to justify a stop. [14]

Other courts which have considered the issue of information from unknown or unreliable third parties as the basis for reasonable suspicion have upheld stops in various contexts: United States v. Sierra-Hernandez, 581 F.2d 760 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 439 U.S. 936, 99 S.Ct. 333, 58 L.Ed.2d 333 (1978) (unidentified man told officer that a truck which was pulling away had just loaded up with marijuana at a site where previous illegal activity was known to have taken place.) United States v. Gorin, 564 F.2d 159 (4th Cir. 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1080, 98 S.Ct. 1276, 55 L.Ed.2d 788 (1978) (anonymous phone call that a man at a certain bar had a gun. Man described with reasonable specificity and tip confirmed by bar owner); United States v. Nunn, 525 F.2d 958, 959 n.2 (5th Cir. 1976) (anonymous tip that six aliens were lying in the open bed of a two-tone, late model Ford pickup truck being driven on a certain highway by two black men. Dicta that there was “most likely” reasonable suspicion for a stop); United States v. Cage, 494 F.2d 740 (10th Cir. 1974) (officers could stop described car whose occupants fitted the sex and ethnic description of radio bulletins which asserted that they had been involved in an assault); United States v. Hernandez, 486 F.2d 614, 616-17 (7th Cir. 1973), cert. denied, 415 U.S. 959, 94 S.Ct. 1488, 39 L.Ed.2d 574 (1974) (anonymous tip “described defendant’s vehicle by year, model and license plates and stated that it carried Mexicans, covered by blankets, who had entered the country illegally.” Described vehicle was located on the road indicated.); United States v. Legato, 480 F.2d 408, 410 (5th Cir.) cert. denied, 414 U.S. 979, 94 S.Ct. 295, 38 L.Ed.2d 223 (1973) (anonymous phone tip that someone carrying a bomb in an orange shopping bag would try to board a flight to Chicago at a certain time. Individual with such a shopping bag tried to leave airport when loudspeaker announced that security search would be made); United States v. Preston, 468 F.2d 1007 (6th Cir. 1972) (an at the time unknown bystander at the scene of a shooting told police that weapons were located in a nearby vehicle). The above-cit[*570] ed cases fairly stand for the proposition that information from an unknown informant will support a stop if sufficiently detailed and/or corroborated. [15]

The facts of this case stand in sharp contrast to those in United States v. DeVi-ta, 526 F.2d 81 (9th Cir. 1975), where an unreliable informant gave the vague tip “that a Mr. DeVita would be transporting some type of narcotics, possibly to the Pittsburgh area, sometime in the near future.” Id. at 83. Further, a five-month surveillance of Mr. DeVita had proved fruitless.

A closer case invalidating a stop, but also distinguishable on its facts, is United States v. McLeroy, 584 F.2d 746 (5th Cir. 1978). There, an unknown informant’s reasonably detailed tip was corroborated to the extent that the police confirmed the suspect’s name and address and the description of his automobile. The court concluded that the information was readily available to many persons and that knowledge of that information would not mean that the informant knew more personal details about the suspect. We think that the corroborated information in this case was more probative than that in McLeroy.

Ill

The government concedes that an arrest took place shortly after the stops. It argues that additional corroborative factors developed at the stop were sufficient to provide probable cause for the subsequent arrests and searches which took place. [16] This difficult issue was not addressed by the district court. We think that the prudent course of action here is to remand for a direct determination by the district court, especially since crucial witness credibility issues are at stake which we are ill-equipped to pass upon. [17]

The district court’s judgment that Tallice Andrews was illegally stopped is reversed. This case is remanded to the district court for further proceedings.

1

. See United States v. Mendenhall, 596 F.2d 706 (6th Cir. 1979) petition for cert. filed 47 USLW 3814 (1979); United States v. Smith, 574 F.2d 882 (6th Cir. 1978); United States v. Canales, 572 F.2d 1182 (6th Cir. 1978); United States v. Pope, 561 F.2d 663 (6th Cir. 1977); United States v. Lewis, 556 F.2d 385 (6th Cir. 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1011, 98 S.Ct. 722, 54 L.Ed.2d 754 (1978); United States v. Craemer, 555 F.2d 594 (6th Cir. 1977); United States v. Gill, 555 F.2d 597 (6th Cir. 1977); United States v. McCaleb, 552 F.2d 717 (6th Cir. 1977).

2

. The court also ruled that co-defendant Thur-ston Brooks lacked standing to challenge any of the items seized and that defendant Andrews lacked standing to challenge the admissibility of the heroin found in the room where the search was conducted. See United States v. Hunter, 550 F.2d 1066 (6th Cir. 1977). These issues are not before us, inasmuch as this case concerns a government appeal under 18 U.S.C. § 3731. Defendants cannot cross-appeal undei this statute. United States v. Olt, 492 F.2d 910, 912 (6th Cir. 1974).

3

. Agent Markonni’s testimony concerning the tip was as follows:

At approximately 2:15, I answered the phone ring in our office, the Drug Enforcement office, at Metropolitan Airport, and an individual who 1 believed to be a Negro male from the sound of his voice, started to tell me about someone coming into the airport with narcotics. At that time, I asked Agent Wankel to pick up the other telephone and listen to the conversation. Then 1 went back to talk to the individual, and he informed me that a man that he knew as Tallice Andrews was supposed to arrive at Detroit Metropolitan Airport at approximately 4:00 o’clock on that date, from Los Angeles, and that he would be traveling with either another Negro male or female, and that he would be carrying a large quantity of heroin which he was going to deliver to a person named Sylvester Rhine — R-h-i-n-e. And 1 elicited a description of Tallice Andrews from the person.
I tried to get him to identify himself. He would not identify himself. I asked him how he got our number, and he indicated that he had been given our number by the Detroit Police Department; which happens, occasionally they will refer calls to us.
Q Can you tell us what that description was of Mr. Andrews?
A Andrews was supposed to be a black male, approximately twenty-five — twenty-six years old, about five feet ten inches tall, dark complexion, with long, processed hair that was combed back a little bit, rather than like an Afro, straightened hair.
Q Did the caller say the city from which the flight would originate?
A He said he would arrive from Los An-geles.
4

. In other contexts, the government has argued the nervousness factor in various ways. For example, in United States v. Escamilla, 560 F.2d 1229, 1233 (5th Cir. 1977) the court noted that at times the government argues that it was suspicious for the occupants of a vehicle in the border zone to react nervously when a patrol car passed, while at other times the government argues that it was suspicious if the occupants just looked at the road and did not acknowledge the patrol car. Similarly, in United States v. Himmelwright, 551 F.2d 991, 992 (5th Cir. 1977), the government argued that it was suspicious that a woman was excessively calm while going through customs.

5

. The situation here is analogous to that in United States v. Oates, 560 F.2d 45 (2d Cir. 1977) where the court stated:

“While investigative stops certainly cannot be made ‘merely because [the detainees] have criminal records or bad reputation,’ a police officer’s knowledge of a person’s reputation as a prominent narcotics trafficker can properly be considered, along with other factors, as an element justifying the officer’s reasonable suspicion or his belief that probable cause exists”

Id. at 59.60. (Citations omitted but commended to the reader)

6

. As this court noted in United States v. Smith, 574 F.2d 882, 885 (6th Cir. 1978), Terry v. Ohio, actually dealt only with the issue of reasonable suspicion justifying a limited frisk of a person believed to be armed and dangerous. Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143, 92 S.Ct. 1921, 32 L.Ed.2d 612 (1972), makes it clear that reasonable suspicion is the test to be applied to a stop as well. See also United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873, 95 S.Ct. 2574, 45 L.Ed.2d 607 (1975) (reasonable suspicion is the standard to be used to stop vehicles traveling in the border zone).

7

. Also like Adams, this case presents problems of possible police perjury in that there is no way to verify the DEA’s story regarding the anonymous tipster. Judge Friendly’s opinion for the en banc Second Circuit in Williams v. Adams, 436 F.2d 30, 38-39 (2d Cir. 1971) noted that in situations such as this one, a police officer could always, after the fact, invent an informant whose tip justified the conduct[*568] which took place. Where an officer testifies to his own observations, there exists at least one other person — the defendant — who can dispute the officer’s story. Where the officer bases his conduct on an informant’s alleged tip, there is generally no one who can challenge the officer’s story. In Adams, however, the Supreme Court did not accept Judge Friendly’s views, apparently not considering the spectre of police perjury serious enough to warrant invalidating stops based on unverified third-party information. We see no evidence of fabrication in this case.

8

. The fact that the DEA agents merely stopped Andrews and asked for identification is significant. When one balances the need for the stop with the gravity of the stop’s intrusion on ap-pellee’s rights, we think that the DEA agents acted reasonably. For one view of the Fourth Amendment balancing test to be applied in situations similar to this one, see United States v. Oates, 560 F.2d 45, 59-60 (2d Cir. 1977).

Given the widely varying situations present in “street stop” cases, the law in this area can hardly be described as uniform. It sometimes appears that courts simply conclude that the police acted reasonably. The problem with adopting a general “reasonableness” analysis on an ad hoc case by case basis is that law enforcement officers are left with no guidance. See Amsterdam, Perspectives on the Fourth Amendment, 58 Minn.L.Rev. 349, 390-95 (1974).

9

. We note that the tip in Adams v. Williams, supra, also failed both prongs of the Aguilar-Spinelli test.

10

. Candor compels acknowledging that the author of this opinion was the district judge who was reversed in Edmond.

11

. We are aware that the informant in Draper was, unlike here, reliable. However, we are here dealing with the lower standard of reasonable suspicion and not with probable cause.

12

. To this extent, the facts here are roughly analogous to those in Draper.

13

. The Supreme Court’s approach in Adams v. Williams, supra, has been termed “rather lenient” by the Second Circuit. United States v. Magda, 547 F.2d 756, 759 (2nd Cir. 1976).

14

. Our citation of Ojeda-Vinales, should in no way be construed as an endorsement of that decision. If Hispanic-Americans can be stopped on anonymous tips that someone named Carlos or Jose is located at a given address, then the Fourth Amendment will have little meaning indeed. We do note that in Oje-da-Vinales, the officers corroborated 'the tip before making the stop.

15

. Of course, pursuant to Adams v. Williams, supra, courts have had no trouble upholding stops where the informant was found to be reliable. See, e. g. United States v. Scott, 545 F.2d 38 (8th Cir. 1976), cert. denied, 429 U.S. 1066, 97 S.Ct. 796, 50 L.Ed.2d 784 (1977); United States v. Poms, 484 F.2d 919 (4th Cir. 1973). See also discussion in United States v. Sierra-Hernandez, 581 F.2d 760, 763 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 439 U.S. 936, 99 S.Ct. 333, 58 L.Ed.2d 333 (1978).

16

. The additional factors were 1) concealing association, 2) nervousness, 3) use of an alias, 4) false statements.

17

. The government places heavy reliance on United States v. Canieso, 470 F.2d 1224 (2d Cir. 1972) and United States v. Archuleta, 446 F.2d 518 (9th Cir. 1971), where courts found probable cause under circumstance analogous to those here. A crucial distinguishing factor, however, was that the informants in those cases were not anonymous and completely unknown, as was the informant here. Contrast the detailed circumstances which led this court to find probable cause in United States v. Prince, 548 F.2d 164 (6th Cir. 1977). We leave it to the able district court to weigh all of the factors and make an overall judgment on the probable cause question.