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99 citation events (99 in the last 25 years) across 1 distinct court.
Strongest positive: In re K.C. CA4/1 (calctapp, 2020-10-30)
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discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re K.C. CA4/1
Cal. Ct. App. · 2020 · confidence medium
Although Mother later reported to the social worker that Jason mentioned he had “ ‘some sort of Indian,’ ” this was speculative at best and she qualified it by saying she did “not believe it ha[d] been ‘proven.’ ” (Cf., e.g., In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157, 130 [statement that child “ ‘may have Indian in him,’ ” without more, insufficient to invoke ICWA notice]; In re Hunter W. (2011) 200 Cal.App.4th 1454, 1469 [ICWA properly found inapplicable where heritage claim was “too speculative” and based on “ ‘family lore’ ”].) Mother’s arguments are u…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re M.R. (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
Cal. Ct. App. · 2020 · confidence medium
(In re Jeremiah G., supra, 172 Cal.App.4th at p. 1516 ; In re O.K., supra, 106 Cal.App.4th at p. 157.) Therefore, the court did not err in failing to require ICWA notice.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) San Diego County Health & Human Services Agency v. K.B. (2×)
Cal. Ct. App. · 2017 · confidence medium
I don’t know my family history that much, but where were [s/c] from it is that section so I don’t know about checking that.’ The paternal grandmother said she was not an enrolled member, she did not know whether she or the father was eligible for membership and she was not able to identify a particular tribe or nation.” (Ibid.) Notwithstanding these statements, the juvenile court found that “there was no reason to believe the children were Indian children.” (O.K, supra, 106 Cal.App.4th at p. 155.) On appeal, “[a]ppellants claim[ed] that the information provided by the paternal gr…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Michael V.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
(See, e.g., In re Hunter W. (2011) 200 Cal.App.4th 1454, 1467 [mother‟s inability to identify tribe or nation and failure to provide any contact information to substantiate her unsupported belief insufficient to invoke ICWA; family lore alone is insufficient to give court reason to know a child is an Indian child]; In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [grandmother‟s statement that child “„may have Indian in him,‟” without more, insufficient to invoke ICWA notice requirements]; see also In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 9 172 Cal.App.4th 1514, 1520 [“more than a bare suggestion that …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Los Angeles County Department of Children & Family Services v. Kristina C.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
(See, e.g., In re Hunter W. (2011) 200 Cal.App.4th 1454, 1467 [ 135 Cal.Rptr.3d 355 ] [mother’s inability to identify tribe or nation and failure to provide any contact information to substantiate her unsupported belief insufficient to invoke ICWA; family lore alone is insufficient to give court reason to know a child is an Indian child]; In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [ 130 Cal.Rptr.2d 276 ] [grandmother’s statement that child “ ‘may have Indian in him,’ ” without more, insufficient to invoke ICWA notice requirements]; see also In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 172 Cal.App.4th …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Andrew S.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
(See, e.g., In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [grandmother‟s statement that child “„may have Indian in him,‟” without more, insufficient to invoke ICWA notice requirements]; see also In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 6 As the Supreme Court explained in In re Isaiah W., supra, 1 Cal.5th at page 8 , “ICWA‟s notice requirements serve two purposes.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Los Angeles County Department of Children & Family Services v. Jonathan G.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
(See, e.g., In re O.K (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [ 130 Cal.Rptr.2d 276 ] [grandmother’s statement that child “ ‘may have Indian in him,’ ” without more, insufficient to invoke ICWA notice requirements]; see also In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 172 Cal.App.4th 1514, 1520 [ 92 Cal.Rptr.3d 203 ] [“more than a bare suggestion that a child might be an Indian child” is required to trigger ICWA notice requirements].) Following the filing of respondent’s brief, Jonathan’s counsel wrote this court that, in light of the parties’ agreement as to the error in the juvenile court’s juris…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Ashton B. CA2/6
Cal. Ct. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
(In re K.M., supra, 172 5 Cal.App.4th at p. 119.) "ICWA does not require further inquiry based on mere supposition. [Citation.]" (Ibid; see In re Hunter W. (2011) 200 Cal.App.4th 1454, 1468 [mother's claim of possible Indian heritage through deceased paternal grandparent too vague and speculative]; In re J.D. (2010) 189 Cal.App.4th 118 , 125 [grandmother's claim of Indian ancestry unrelated to any specific tribe was too vague and speculative]; In re Z.N. (2009) 181 Cal.App.4th 282 , 298 [mother's belief that her grandmother "was Cherokee" (tribe unidentified) did not trigger duty to notify tri…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Joseph E. CA2/5
Cal. Ct. App. · 2016 · confidence medium
(In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 172 Cal.App.4th 1514, 1521 [ICWA notice requirement not triggered where the father stated he might have some Indian heritage but did not mention the tribe name, then later told the Department and the court that he did not have any Indian heritage, and his counsel retracted the claim]; Shane G., supra, 166 Cal.App.4th at p. 1539 [suggestion that minor’s “great-great-great-grandmother was a Comanche princess” insufficient to show that minor was an Indian child where no family member ever lived on a reservation, attended an Indian school, participated in Indian 4 c…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Christina C. CA4/1
Cal. Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
I was a little kid when my grandmother told me about our Native American ancestry but I just don't know which tribe it was[,]' . . . is too vague, attenuated and speculative to give the dependency court any reason to believe the children might be Indian children."]; In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 172 Cal.App.4th 1514, 1516 [assertion of a " 'possibility' the great-grandfather of the minor's father 'was Indian,' without more, was too vague and speculative to require ICWA notice"]; In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [information provided by the paternal grandmother that the father " 'may have …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Los Angeles County Department of Children & Family Services v. Shahida R.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
Though he was unable to provide any further information, this was sufficient to trigger ICWA____”]; cf. In re Hunter W. (2011) 200 Cal.App.4th 1454, 1467 [ 135 Cal.Rptr.3d 355 ] [mother’s inability to identify tribe or nation and failure to provide any contact information to substantiate her unsupported belief insufficient to invoke ICWA; family lore alone is insufficient to give court reason to know a child is an Indian child]; In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [ 130 Cal.Rptr.2d 276 ] [grandmother’s statement that minor “ ‘may have Indian in him,’ ” without more, insuff…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Kadence P.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
Though he was unable to provide any further information, this was sufficient to trigger ICWA”]; cf. In re Hunter W. (2011) 200 Cal.App.4th 1454, 1467 [mother’s inability to identify tribe or nation and failure to provide any contact information to 10 In its recently adopted ICWA guidelines for state courts, the Bureau of Indian Affairs confirmed, “[¶] (a) only the Indian tribe(s) of which it is believed a biological parent or the child is a member or eligible for membership may make the determination whether the child is a member of the tribe(s), is eligible for membership in the tribe(…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re D.N. CA2/3 (2×)
Cal. Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
(See, e.g., In re J.D. (2010) 189 Cal.App.4th 118 , 125 [notice not required where paternal grandmother indicated possible Indian ancestry, tribe unknown]; In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 156-157 [grandmother’s statement children may have Indian heritage, no known tribe, “too vague and speculative to give the juvenile court any reason to believe the minors might be Indian children”].) However, in those cases the family members made generic assertions that the dependent child might have some Indian heritage, without reference to either a particular tribe or a particular family memb…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re K.B. (2×) also: Cited "see"
Cal. Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
ICWA’s protections apply to Indian children who are at risk of being removed from their families and placed “in foster or adoptive homes.” (In re O.K., supra, 106 Cal.App.4th at p. 155.) California law imposes on the Department and the juvenile court “an affirmative and continuing duty to inquire whether” a child for whom a dependency petition has been filed may be an Indian child if the child “is at risk of entering foster care.” (§ 224.3, subd. (a).) Assuming for the sake of argument that the boys are Indian children, ICWA’s protections are unnecessary because X.B. was place…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Michael W. CA2/1
Cal. Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
(See, e.g., In re J.D. (2010) 189 Cal.App.4th 118 , 125 [notice not required where paternal grandmother indicated possible Indian ancestry, tribe unknown]; see also In re Jeremiah G. (2009) 172 Cal.App.4th 1514, 1516 , 1520–1521 [mere assertion there was a “‘possibility’” a parent’s great-grandfather “‘was Indian’” was too vague and speculative to require ICWA notice]; In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 154, 157 [grandmother’s statement children may have Indian heritage, without identifying tribe, was “too vague and speculative to give the juvenile court any reason …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Natalie L. CA4/1
Cal. Ct. App. · 2014 · confidence medium
(See In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [holding that the paternal grandmother's statement that the children's father "may have Indian in him" but could not provide any additional information about the family history or tribal affiliation was too indefinite to give the court reason to believe the children were Indian children]; but see also In re Damian C. (2009) 178 Cal.App.4th 192, 199 [concluding that conflicting evidence as to whether the mother had Indian ancestry was sufficient to require ICWA notice to the identified tribes].) Moreover, the record establishes that Luis suffered …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re R.M. CA4/1 (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
Cal. Ct. App. · 2014 · confidence medium
(See In re O.K., supra, 106 Cal.App.4th at p. 157 ["This information was too vague and speculative to give the juvenile court any reason to believe the minors might be Indian children."].) Nothing in the record shows that Abel intended to claim ancestry in an Apache Tribe through his reference to a "Geronimo" Tribe.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Devin P. CA2/7
Cal. Ct. App. · 2013 · confidence medium
I don’t know my family history that much, but where were [sic] from it is that section so I don’t know about checking that.’” (O.K., supra, at p. 155.) The paternal grandmother further stated that “she was not an enrolled member, she did not know whether she or the father was eligible for membership and she was not able to identify a particular tribe or nation.” The father made no comment.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) San Francisco Human Services Agency v. S.J.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2009 · confidence medium
HSA implicitly concedes the deficiency but argues that, because the ICWA applies only to “Indian” children, defined by Congress as those (1) who are members or (2) who are eligible for membership and a child of a member ( 25 U.S.C. § 1903 (4); In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 155-156 [ 130 Cal.Rptr.2d 276 ]), the scant and general information available to the court here did not require tribal notice.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In Re ZN
Cal. Ct. App. · 2009 · confidence medium
Those statements are that the ICWA "does not apply," but are unexplained, resulted in no express finding by the court, and are unsupported by any form JV-135 tribal notices for the twins. *298 HSA implicitly concedes the deficiency but argues that, because the ICWA applies only to "Indian" children, defined by Congress as those (1) who are members or (2) who are eligible for membership and a child of a member ( 25 U.S.C. § 1903 (4); In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 155-156 [ 130 Cal.Rptr.2d 276 ]), the scant and general information available to the court here did not require tribal noti…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Sacramento County Department of Health & Human Services v. Joann W.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2009 · confidence medium
Here, the assertion that there was a “possibility” the great-grandfather of the minor’s father “was Indian,” without more, was too vague and speculative to require ICWA notice to the Bureau of Indian Affairs. (106 Cal.App.4th at p. 157.) This is particularly so in this case because the minor’s father, who made the assertion, later retracted it, telling the juvenile court that he “didn’t actually have [Indian ancestry].” Thus, mother’s appellate claim of ICWA error lacks merit.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In Re Jeremiah G.
Cal. Ct. App. · 2009 · confidence medium
Here, the assertion that there was a "possibility" the great-grandfather of the minor's father "was Indian," without more, was too vague and speculative to require ICWA notice to the Bureau of Indian Affairs. (106 Cal.App.4th at p. 157.) This is particularly so in this case because the minor's father, who made the assertion, later retracted it, telling the juvenile court that he "didn't actually have [Indian ancestry]." Thus, mother's appellate claim of ICWA error lacks merit. *1517 In the unpublished part of this opinion, we reject mother's challenge to the denial of reunification services.
discussed Cited "see" In re S.F. CA6
Cal. Ct. App. · 2013 · signal: accord · confidence high
(See, e.g., In re Alice M. (2008) 161 Cal.App.4th 1189, 1197 .) Its purpose is to protect the interests of Indian children and to promote the stability and security of Indian tribes and families. ( 25 U.S.C. § 1902 ; see, e.g., In re Elizabeth W. (2004) 120 Cal.App.4th 900, 906 .) “Among the procedural safeguards imposed by the Act is the provision of notice to various parties.” (In re Levi U. (2000) 78 Cal.App.4th 191, 196 ; accord, In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 156 .) “Notice is a key component of the congressional goal to protect and preserve Indian tribes and Indian familie…
discussed Cited "see" In Re Shane G. (2×)
Cal. Ct. App. · 2008 · signal: see · confidence high
Code, §§ 224.3, subd. (d), 290.1, subd. (f), 290.2, subd. (e), 291, subd. (g), 292, subd. (f), 293, subd. (g), 294, subd. (i), 295, subd. (g), 297, subd. (d); see In re Aaliyah G. (2003) 109 Cal.App.4th 939, 941 [ 135 Cal.Rptr.2d 680 ].) Alternatively, if there is insufficient reason to believe a child is an Indian child, notice need not be given. ( In re O.K. (2003) 106 Cal.App.4th 152, 157 [ 130 Cal.Rptr.2d 276 ]; In re Aaron R. (2005) 130 Cal.App.4th 697, 707 [ 29 Cal.Rptr.3d 921 ].) (3) "The circumstances that may provide probable cause for the court to believe the child is an Indian chi…
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In re O.K. et al., Persons Coming Under the Juvenile Court Law. Sacramento County Department of Health and Human Services, Plaintiff and Respondent,
v.
Maximillian K. et al., Defendants and Appellants.
C041382.
California Court of Appeal.
Feb 10, 2003.
130 Cal. Rptr. 2d 276
Hull.
Cited by 19 opinions  |  Published

[*277] Beth A. Melvin, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant Maximillian K.

Maureen L. Keaney, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant Anna L.

Robert A. Ryan, Jr., County Counsel, and Lilly C. Frawley, Deputy County Counsel, for Plaintiff and Respondent.

HULL, J.

Appellants, the mother and father of the minors, appeal from the order of the juvenile court terminating their parental rights. (Welf. & Inst.Code, §§ 366.26, 395; further undesignated statutory references are to the Welfare and Institutions Code.) Appellants contend the juvenile court erred when it conducted the section 366.26 hearing without ensuring compliance with the notice provisions of the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA). (25 U.S.C. § 1902 et seq.) We affirm the order.

FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY

The Sacramento County Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) filed dependency petitions in October 2001 concerning the newborn minor twins, based on allegations that appellants had committed lewd and lascivious acts on the minors' six-year-old half sibling and were incarcerated pending trial for these acts. The petitions were subsequently amended to add allegations that another half sibling had also been molested.

The minute order from the detention hearing indicated that the mother "may be of Native American [h]eritage." ICWA notice was sent to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). In a letter accompanying the notice to the BIA, a paralegal with DHHS advised that the mother "may have Indian ancestry but she has been unable to provide information regarding her family history or tribal affiliation." Correspondence from the BIA stated that the ICWA notice was being returned because it contained "[insufficient identifying tribal information."

The juvenile court sustained the amended petitions and denied reunification services. The minors were placed in the home of a relative and her "significant other" who were willing to adopt them. The social worker recommended termination of parental rights and a permanent plan of adoption.

At the section 366.26 hearing, the juvenile court addressed the application of the ICWA, stating: "There are references concerning the [ICWA], but there doesn't appear that there is a parent who is either enrolled or eligible for enrollment; is that correct?" The paternal grandmother, who was present at the hearing, replied, "I'm not understanding that too well, but the boy—the young man may have Indian in him. I don't know my family history that much, but where were [sic] from it is that section so I don't know about checking that." The paternal grandmother said she was not an enrolled member, she did not know whether she or the father was eligible for membership and she was not able to identify a particular tribe or nation. The father, who was present, did not comment on the paternal grandmother's claim regarding Indian heritage.

The juvenile court adopted the recommendations of the social worker for termination of parental rights and a permanent plan of adoption. With regard to the application of the ICWA, the court stated it did not have reason to believe that "[the] parent is a person described under the parameters of the [ICWA]," stating that "[f]or the children to be described under ... the [ICWA], they need to be the child[*278] of a parent who is either enrolled or eligible for enrollment." The court's written order included a finding that there was no reason to believe the children were Indian children.

DISCUSSION

Appellants contend the information provided by the paternal grandmother at the section 366.26 hearing was sufficient to trigger the notice requirements of the ICWA with regard to the father's possible Indian heritage. We disagree.

Congress passed the ICWA in 1978 "to promote the stability and security of Indian tribes and families by establishing minimum standards for removal of Indian children from their families and placement of such children `in foster or adoptive homes which will reflect the unique values of Indian culture....'" (In re Levi U. (2000) 78 Cal.App.4th 191, 195, 92 Cal. Rptr.2d 648; 25 U.S.C. § 1902.)

The ICWA's procedural and substantive requirements must be followed in involuntary child custody proceedings when an "Indian child" is involved. An "Indian child" is defined by the ICWA as "any unmarried person who is under age eighteen and is either (a) a member of an Indian tribe or (b) is eligible for membership in an Indian tribe and is the biological child of a member of an Indian tribe." (25 U.S.C. § 1903(4).)

Among the procedural safeguards included in the ICWA is the provision for notice. The ICWA provides, in part: "In any involuntary proceeding in a State court, where the court knows or has reason to know that an Indian child is involved, the party seeking the foster care placement of, or termination of parental rights to, an Indian child shall notify the parent or Indian custodian and the Indian child's tribe, by registered mail with return receipt requested, of the pending proceedings and of their right of intervention. If the identity or location of the parent or Indian custodian and the tribe cannot be determined, such notice shall be given to the Secretary [of the Interior] in like manner, who shall have fifteen days after receipt to provide the requisite notice to the parent or Indian custodian and the tribe...." (25 U.S.C. § 1912(a).) "Notice shall be sent whenever there is reason to believe the child may be an Indian child, and for every hearing thereafter unless and until it is determined that the child is not an Indian child." (California Rules of Court, rule 1439(f)(5); further references to rules are to the California Rules of Court.)

"The Indian status of the child need not be certain to invoke the notice requirement. [Citation.] Because the question of membership rests with each Indian tribe, when the juvenile court knows or has reason to believe the child may be an Indian child, notice must be given to the particular tribe in question or the Secretary [of the Interior]." (In re Desiree F. (2000) 83 Cal.App.4th 460, 471, 99 Cal.Rptr.2d 688.)

The circumstances under which a juvenile court has reason to believe that a child is an Indian child include, but are not limited to, the following: "(i) Any party to the case, Indian tribe, Indian organization or public or private agency informs the court that the child is an Indian child. [¶] (ii) Any public or state-licensed agency involved in child protection services or family support has discovered information which suggests that the child is an Indian child. [¶] (iii) The child who is the subject of the proceeding gives the court reason to believe he or she is an Indian child, [¶] (iv) The residence or the domicile of the child, his or her biological parents, or the Indian custodian is known by the court to be or is[*279] shown to be a predominantly Indian community. [¶] (v) An officer of the court involved in the proceeding has knowledge that the child may be an Indian child." (Guidelines for State Courts; Indian Child Custody Proceedings (44 Fed.Reg. 67584, 67586 (Nov. 26, 1979)) (Guidelines); rule 1439(d)(2).)

Not one of these enumerated circumstances applies in the present matter. The paternal grandmother was not a party to the proceedings, and neither the Guidelines nor rule 1439(d)(2) expressly include relatives as a source of information that would give the court reason to believe that a minor is an Indian child. Furthermore, even if the paternal grandmother was a party, she did not "inform[ ] the court" (Guidelines at p. 67587) that the minors were Indian children, i.e., that they were either members of a tribe or the biological children of tribal members and eligible for membership.

Appellants claim that the information provided by the paternal grandmother was sufficient to give the juvenile court reason to believe that the minors might be Indian children because it came from a "close relative." It is true that the circumstances listed under the Guidelines and rule 1439(d)(2) are not exclusive, and we can certainly envision circumstances under which information from a close relative concerning a child's Indian ancestry would be sufficient to trigger the notice requirements of the ICWA.

However, we conclude with little difficulty that such is not the situation here, not because the paternal grandmother was only a relative, but because the information she provided was insufficient to give the court reason to believe that the minors might be Indian children. The information provided by the paternal grandmother that the father "may have Indian in him" was not based on any known Indian ancestors but on the nebulous assertion that "where were [sic] from is that section...." This information was too vague and speculative to give the juvenile court any reason to believe the minors might be Indian children.

Appellants' reliance on In re Levi U., supra, 78 Cal.App.4th 191, 92 Cal.Rptr.2d 648, is misplaced. In that case, the paternal grandmother reported that her mother was born on a reservation in Oklahoma, but she did not know which tribe and her mother was deceased. (Id. at p. 194, 92 Cal.Rptr.2d 648.) The father reported he had been told that the paternal great-grandfather was one-sixteenth Indian. The issue presented was whether the juvenile court was required to proceed as if the minors were Indian children when notice had been sent to the BIA, but no response had been received. Based on the "rather vague information provided by family members," we held that the juvenile court had no further duties under the ICWA. (Id, at pp. 198-199, 92 Cal.Rptr.2d 648.) In re Levi U. did not present the issue of whether the information provided concerning Indian heritage was sufficient to trigger the ICWA's notice requirements.

The other cases relied on by appellants are distinguishable in that they involved information that a parent, or an immediate relative of the minor, was a member or might be eligible for membership in a tribe. (In re IBM (1999) 233 Mich.App. 438, 592 N.W.2d 751, 755; In re J.T. (1997) 166 Vt. 173, 693 A.2d 283, 288; In re M.C.P. (1989) 153 Vt. 275, 571 A.2d 627, 630-631.) Appellants emphasize that, in In re IEM, supra, 233 Mich.App. 438, 592 N.W.2d 751, the reviewing court ordered remand for compliance with the ICWA's notice requirements, even though the mother did not claim a specific tribal affiliation. Here, it was not the paternal grandmother's failure to specify a tribal[*280] affiliation that rendered the information insufficient but her failure to assert any information that would reasonably suggest that the minors had any known Indian heritage.

Appellants also argue that notice to the BIA was required under rule 1439(e). Rule 1439(e) provides that when the box on a dependency petition is marked indicating that a minor "may be of Indian ancestry" but not that the minor is, or may be, an Indian child, notice of the proceedings to the BIA and further inquiry regarding the minor's possible Indian heritage are required.

The boxes indicating possible Indian ancestry were not marked on the minors' dependency petitions, and the information provided by the paternal grandmother was too indefinite to give the court any reason to believe that the minors may have Indian ancestry. Thus, rule 1439(e) was inapplicable under the present circumstances.

DISPOSITION

The juvenile court's order is affirmed.

We concur: SIMS, Acting P.J., and NICHOLSON, J.