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United States v. Richard H. Thier, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir. 1987). Cases Citing This Book View Copy Cite
57 citation events (7 in the last 25 years) across 14 distinct courts.
Strongest positive: Jena Band of Choctaw Indians v. Tri-Millennium Corp. (lawd, 2005-07-22) · Strongest negative: United States v. Peter Monsanto (ca2, 1988-01-29)
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examined Cited "but see" United States v. Peter Monsanto (4×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
2d Cir. · 1988 · signal: but cf. · confidence high
But cf. United States v. Thier, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987) (court does not suggest that payment of fees to counsel will always immunize fees from post-trial forfeiture, but only that a defense attorney’s knowledge of the charges against client does not ipso facto disqualify attorney’s claim to be bona fide purchaser).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Jena Band of Choctaw Indians v. Tri-Millennium Corp.
W.D. La. · 2005 · confidence medium
Gregory v. Drury, 809 F.2d 249, 252 (5th Cir.1987).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Corpus Christi Taxpayer's Association, Cross-Appellees v. City of Corpus Christi, Texas, Cross-Appellant, State of Texas
5th Cir. · 1988 · confidence medium
Under our decisions in Gregory v. Drury, 809 F.2d 249, 253-54 (5th Cir.1987), and Flores v. Edinburg Consolidated I.S.D., 741 F.2d 773 (5th Cir.1984), the state trial court judgment is plainly preclusive of the present suit.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Milton F. Jones, United States of America v. Charles Campion & Bernard Campion
5th Cir. · 1988 · confidence medium
This is not to say that a defendant's payment of fees will always immunize such fees from post-trial forfeiture, only that a defense lawyer's knowledge of the charges against the client does not ipso facto disqualify the attorney's claim to be a bona fide purchaser under the RICO and CCE forfeiture provisions. 14 Id. at 1474, as modified, 809 F.2d at 249. 15 Because the right to claim attorneys' fees out of forfeited assets arises after the completion of trial and the court's ex parte restraining order was issued before trial, we instructed the court on remand, when determining whether to issu…
cited Cited as authority (rule) Prince Lewis, Jr. v. East Feliciana Parish School Board
5th Cir. · 1987 · confidence medium
Parson’s Steel, Inc. v. First Alabama Bank, 474 U.S. 518 106 S.Ct. 768, 769-70 , 88 L.Ed.2d 877 (1986); Gregory v. Drury, 809 F.2d 249, 253 (5th Cir.1987).
cited Cited "see" United States v. Lots 275, 276, & 277
5th Cir. · 2004 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463 , 1468- 69 (5th Cir. 1986), modified, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir. 1987); accord United States v. Crozier, 777 F.2d 1376, 1384 (9th Cir. 1985).
cited Cited "see" United States v. Melrose East Subdivision, Third Filing, East Baton Rouge Parish Louisiana, Lyman D. White, Claimant-Appellant
3rd Cir. · 2004 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463, 1468-69 (5th Cir.1986), modified, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987); accord United States v. Crozier, 777 F.2d 1376, 1384 (9th Cir.1985).
cited Cited "see" United States v. Mary Jane Jenkins
5th Cir. · 1992 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463 (5th Cir.1986), modified on other grounds, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987) (accepting a similar appeal without discussion of appealability).
cited Cited "see" U.S. v. Jenkins
5th Cir. · 1992 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463 (5th Cir.1986), modified on other grounds, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987) (accepting a similar appeal without discussion of appealability).
discussed Cited "see" United States v. Peter Monsanto (2×)
2d Cir. · 1988 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463, 1473 (5th Cir.1986) (Rubin, J., concurring), modified, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987).
cited Cited "see" Tucker v. Callahan
M.D. Tenn. · 1987 · signal: accord · confidence high
Accord, Gregory v. Drury, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987) petition for cert. filed, 55 U.S.L.W. 3762 (U.S. May 12, 1987) (No. 86-1673). .
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Nichols
10th Cir. · 1988 · signal: see also · confidence low
Oct. 2, 1987) ; United States v. Truglio, 660 F.Supp. 103 (N.D.W.Va.1987); United States v. Estevez, 645 F.Supp. 869 (E.D.Wis.1986); United States v. Figueroa, 645 F.Supp. 453 (W.D.Pa.1986); United States v. Ianniello, 644 F.Supp. 452 (S.D.N.Y.1985); United States v. Badalamenti, 614 F.Supp. 194 (S.D.N.Y.1985); United States v. Rogers, 602 F.Supp. 1332 (D.Col.1985); see also United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463, 1474 (5th Cir.1986), modified, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987) (statute allows attorney to recover reasonable fees from forfeited assets, but assets needed to pay an attorney need not be …
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Nichols
10th Cir. · 1988 · signal: see also · confidence low
Oct. 2, 1987) (WESTLAW, Allfeds database [ 1987 WL 32 ]); United States v. Truglio, 660 F.Supp. 103 (N.D.W.Va.1987); United States v. Estevez, 645 F.Supp. 869 (E.D.Wis.1986); United States v. Figueroa, 645 F.Supp. 453 (W.D.Pa.1986); United States v. Ianniello, 644 F.Supp. 452 (S.D.N.Y.1985); United States v. Badalamenti, 614 F.Supp. 194 (S.D.N.Y.1985); United States v. Rogers, 602 F.Supp. 1332 (D.Col.1985); see also United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463, 1474 (5th Cir.1986), modified, 809 F.2d 249 (5th Cir.1987) (statute allows attorney to recover reasonable fees from forfeited assets, but ass…
cited Cited "see, e.g." Federal Savings & Loan Insurance v. Dixon
5th Cir. · 1987 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence low
See, e.g., United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463 (1986), mod. on den of reh’g 809 F.2d 249 (1987).
cited Cited "see, e.g." Federal Savings & Loan Insurance Corp. v. Dixon
5th Cir. · 1987 · signal: see, e.g. · confidence low
See, e.g., United States v. Thier, 801 F.2d 1463 (1986), mod. on den of reh'g 809 F.2d 249 (1987).
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UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
Richard H. THIER, Defendant-Appellant
85-4857.
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.
Jan 27, 1987.
809 F.2d 249
William W. Taylor, III, Washington, D.C., Richard H. Thier, pro se, Miami Beach, Fla., John F. Evans, G. Richard Strafer, Coral Gables, Fla., for amicus curiae-Nat. Ass’n for Criminal Defense Lawyers., Victor Sherman, Janet Sherman, Santa Monica, Cal., for defendant-appellant., Judith A. Lombardino, D.H. Perkins, Asst. U.S. Attys., Shreveport, La., for plaintiff-appellee.
Clark, Rubin, Garza.
Cited by 18 opinions  |  Published

ON PETITION FOR REHEARING AND SUGGESTION FOR REHEARING EN BANC

(Opinion October 10, 1986, 5th Cir.1986, 801 F.2d 1463)

PER CURIAM:

The sentence of the court’s opinion reading “Such a claim could provide an appropriate means of examining claims of this sort” [see the last sentence of the paragraph appearing after headnote call [8] at 801 F.2d 1474] is deleted and the following sentence is substituted:

This is not to say that a defendant’s payment of fees to his counsel will always immunize such fees from post-trial forfeiture, only that a defense lawyer’s knowledge of the charges against the client does not ipso facto disqualify the attorney’s claim to be a bona fide purchaser under the RICO and CCE forfeiture provisions.

Except as noted herein, the Petition for Rehearing is denied. No member of this panel nor judge in regular active service on the Court having requested that the Court be polled on rehearing en banc, (Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure and Local Rule 35) the Suggestion for Rehearing En Banc is DENIED.

ENTERED FOR THE COURT:

/s/ Charles Clark Chief Judge