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92 N.Y.2d at 520 Requirements for valid waiver of right to counsel87 citing cases“must accomplish the goals of adequately warning a defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprising a defendant of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication”14 citing courts quote it · 74 listed here
  • People v. Ocasio, 2026 NY Slip Op 04595 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2026).published 2 cites
    "When a record lacks the requisite 'searching inquiry' or fails to measure up to the prescribed standards, a waiver of the right to counsel will be deemed ineffective" ( People v [*2] Smith , 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]).
  • People v. Stone, 2026 NY Slip Op 04438 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2026).published
    "The court's inquiry 'must accomplish the goals of adequately warning a defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprising a defendant of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication'" (…
  • People v. McVay, 2026 NY Slip Op 03887 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2026).published
    The court conducted a thorough, searching inquiry, which included a discussion of defendant's background and education ( see People v Smith , 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]), a conversation about the charges against him and his sentencing exposur…
  • People v. Martinez, 2026 NY Slip Op 50803(U) (N.Y. App. Term. 2026).unpublished 5 cites
    The fact that defendant's counsel was not relieved, but remained in a standby capacity, does not excuse the court's failure to conduct a searching inquiry ( see Smith , 92 NY2d at 521; People v Gray , 236 AD3d 1095, 1096 [2025]; People v N…
  • People v. Rivera, 2025 NY Slip Op 07231 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2025).published 2 cites
    The court's colloquy was insufficient to establish a valid waiver of the right to counsel ( see People v Smith , 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]; People v Perry , 198 AD3d 576 , 576-577 [1st Dept 2021], lv denied 37 NY3d 1164 [2022]).
  • People v. Blue, 2024 NY Slip Op 05175 (N.Y. 2024).published 3 cites
    We have required that the colloquy "adequately warn[] a defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se , and appris[e] a defendant of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication" ( People v Smith ,…
  • The People v. Donnell Baines, 197 N.E.3d 1282 (N.Y. 2022).published
    We have “consistently refrained from creating a catechism for this inquiry, 1 To the extent defendant asserts that events occurring outside the record support his claim that he was unrepresented before the grand jury, he may raise that iss…
  • People v. Williams, 2022 NY Slip Op 04135 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2022).published 2 cites
    It is well settled that a criminal defendant has a constitutional right to represent him/herself ( Faretta v California , 422 US 806, 819-821 [1975]; People v Arroyo , 98 NY2d 101, 103-104 [2002]; People v Smith , 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]).
  • People v. Gilmore, 157 N.Y.S.3d 617 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2021).published
    "In ascertaining whether such a waiver is knowing, voluntary and intelligent, the court must 'test an accused's understanding of the waiver' and be reasonably certain that [he or she] appreciates the dangers and disadvantages of giving up…
  • People v. Robinson, 2021 NY Slip Op 02688 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2021).published
    Defendant's request was unequivocal and was not made as an alternative to seeking substitute counsel ( see People v Paulin , 140 AD3d 985, 987 [2d Dept 2016], lv denied 28 NY3d 935 [2016]), and the court made the requisite inquiry to ascer…
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  • People v. Grays, 2018 NY Slip Op 4392 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2018).published
    In ascertaining whether such a waiver is knowing, voluntary and intelligent, the court must "test an accused's understanding of the waiver" and be "reasonably certain that [he or she] appreciates the dangers and disadvantages of giving up…
  • People v. Leibovitz (Etan), No. 2018 NYSlipOp 50577(U) (N.Y. App. Term. Apr. 13, 2018).published 5 cites
    While there is no rigid formula or catechism that a court must follow in conducting such an inquiry, the court must adequately warn the defendant of "the risks inherent in proceeding pro se " and apprise him or her "of the singular importa…
  • People v. Myers, 2018 NY Slip Op 2361 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2018).published
    Although the trial court need not conduct the required inquiry in a strict, formulaic manner, "it must accomplish the goals of adequately warning a defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprising a defendant of the sing…
  • People v. Henry, 2018 NY Slip Op 1833 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2018).published 2 cites
    Contrary to defendant's further contention, the record as a whole demonstrates that the court did not unjustifiably deny his request to waive counsel so that he could represent himself at trial ( see People v Providence , 2 NY3d 579, 580-5…
  • People v. Torres, 2018 NY Slip Op 93 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2018).published
    This was sufficient to ascertain that defendant's waiver was knowing, intelligent and voluntary ( see People v Arroyo , 98 NY2d 101 [2002]; People v Smith , 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]).
  • People v. Pressley, 156 A.D.3d 1384 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2017).published
    We agree with defendant that the court erred in requiring him to proceed pro se at the Huntley hearing inasmuch as defendant did not waive his right to counsel at the hearing (see generally People v Smith, 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]), nor did…
  • People v. Wright, 152 A.D.3d 801 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2017).published
    Moreover, the court adequately warned the defendant of the risk inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprised him of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication (see People v Crampe, 17 NY3d at 482 ; Peopl…
  • People v. Poulos, 144 A.D.3d 1389 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2016).published 2 cites
    In doing so, the court “should undertake a sufficiently searching inquiry in order to be reasonably certain that a defendant appreciates the dangers and disadvantages of giving up the fundamental right to counsel” (People v Smith, 92 NY2d…
  • The People v. Ronald D. Rossborough, 54 N.E.3d 71 (N.Y. 2016).published
    (defendant may waive fundamental right to counsel)
  • People v. Hamilton, 133 A.D.3d 1090 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2015).published 2 cites
    County Court then engaged in the requisite inquiry, examining defendant’s “education, occupation, previous exposure to legal procedures and other relevant factors bearing on a competent, intelligent, voluntary waiver” (People v Smith, 92 N…
  • People v. McCord, 133 A.D.3d 689 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2015).published
    The trial court adequately warned the defendant of the risk inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprised him of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication (see People v Crampe, 17 NY3d at 482 ; People v…
  • People v. Qureshi, 45 Misc. 3d 57 (N.Y. App. Term. 2014).published
    The Court of Appeals has “consistently refrained from creating a catechism for this inquiry, recognizing that it ‘may occur in a nonformalistic, flexible manner’ ” (People v Providence, 2 NY3d 579, 580 [2004], quoting People v Smith, 92 NY…
  • State v. Raul L., 120 A.D.3d 52 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2014).published 2 cites
    However, since “[implicit in a defendant’s assertion of [the] right to proceed pro se is the decision to disavow the constitutional right to counsel” (People v McIntyre, 36 NY2d at 17 ), the court must be satisfied that the defendant’s wai…
  • People v. Dashnaw, 116 A.D.3d 1222 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2014).published 2 cites
    The waiver element, in turn, requires the trial court to undertake a “ ‘searching inquiry’ ” (People v Slaughter, 78 NY2d 485, 491 [1991], quoting Faretta v California, 422 US 806, 835 [1975]) geared toward “accomplish[ing] the [twin] goal…
  • People v. Codina, 110 A.D.3d 401 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2013).published 2 cites
    To be effective, a defendant’s waiver of the fundamental right to counsel must be unequivocal, voluntary and intelligent, and trial courts should undertake a sufficiently searching inquiry to be reasonably certain that a defendant apprecia…
  • Massey v. Van Wyen, 108 A.D.3d 549 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2013).published 2 cites
    A party, however, may waive the right to counsel and opt for self-representation (see People v Arroyo, 98 NY2d 101, 103 [2002]; People v Smith, 92 NY2d 516, 520 [1998]; Matter of Casey N., 59 AD3d 625 , 627 [2009]).
  • People v. Wilson, 103 A.D.3d 1178 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2013).published
    The requisite inquiry “ ‘should affirmatively disclose that a trial court has delved into a defendant’s age, education, occupation, previous exposure to legal procedures and other relevant factors bearing on a competent, intelligent, volun…
  • People v. Bristol, 102 A.D.3d 881 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2013).published 2 cites
    The record should show that the defendant was adequately warned “of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprised] . . . of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication” (People v Smith, 92 NY2d 5…
  • People v. Allen, 99 A.D.3d 1252 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2012).published 2 cites
    “Before allowing a defendant to proceed pro se, . the court must conduct a searching inquiry to ensure that the waiver of the right to appointed counsel is ‘unequivocal, voluntary and intelligent’ ” (People v LaValle, 3 NY3d 88, 106 [2004]…
  • People v. Rafikian, 98 A.D.3d 1139 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2012).published
    In particular, the record should show that the trial court “ ‘adequately warn[ed] [the] defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and appris[ed] [the] defendant of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system…
  • People v. Gillian, 861 N.E.2d 92 (N.Y. 2006).published
  • People v. LaValle, 817 N.E.2d 341 (N.Y. 2004).published
  • People v. Providence, 813 N.E.2d 632 (N.Y. 2004).published
  • In the Matter of Kathleen K., 953 N.E.2d 773 (N.Y. 2011).published
  • PeoplevGuarnieri, No. 105747 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't Nov. 20, 2014).published
  • People v. Shareef (Hasan), No. 2018 NYSlipOp 51578(U) (N.Y. App. Term. Nov. 8, 2018).published
  • People v. Rogers, 186 A.D.3d 1046 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2020).published
  • In re Jung, 899 N.E.2d 925 (N.Y. 2008).published
  • People v. Crampe, 957 N.E.2d 255 (N.Y. 2011).published
  • People v. Brown, 6 A.D.3d 1125 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2004).published
  • People v. Sanchez, 7 A.D.3d 645 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2004).published
  • In re Anthony K., 11 A.D.3d 748 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2004).published
  • People v. James, 13 A.D.3d 649 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2004).published
  • People v. Whitted, 16 A.D.3d 905 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2005).published
  • People v. Lee, 19 A.D.3d 1148 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2005).published
  • People v. Lott, 23 A.D.3d 1088 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2005).published
  • People v. Garrett, 23 A.D.3d 1120 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2005).published
  • In re David VV., 25 A.D.3d 882 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2006).published
  • People v. Clark, 42 A.D.3d 957 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2007).published
  • Jetter v. Jetter, 43 A.D.3d 821 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2007).published
  • People v. Maraj, 44 A.D.3d 1090 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2007).published
  • People v. McMath, 54 A.D.3d 566 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2008).published
  • Knight v. Knight, 59 A.D.3d 445 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2009).published
  • In re Casey N., 59 A.D.3d 625 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2009).published
  • People v. Gordon, 66 A.D.3d 920 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2009).published
  • People v. Grueiro, 74 A.D.3d 1232 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2010).published
  • People v. D'Juan Collins, 77 A.D.3d 404 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2010).published
  • People v. Zalevsky, 82 A.D.3d 1136 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2011).published
  • People v. Johnson, 94 A.D.3d 1496 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2012).published
  • Clark v. Clark, 101 A.D.3d 1394 (N.Y. App. Div. 2012).published
  • People v. Guarnieri, 122 A.D.3d 1078 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2014).published
  • People v. Spirles, 275 A.D.2d 980 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2000).published
  • People v. Duffy, 275 A.D.2d 1006 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2000).published
  • People v. Perry, 276 A.D.2d 808 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2000).published
  • People v. Collins, 288 A.D.2d 756 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2001).published
  • People v. Riddick, 299 A.D.2d 562 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2002).published
  • People v. Pinet, 2022 NY Slip Op 00610 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2022).published
  • People v. Berger, 2 Misc. 3d 46 (N.Y. App. Term. 2003).published
  • People v. Best, 19 Misc. 3d 561 (N.Y. City Crim. Ct. 2008).published
  • People v. Arroyo, 772 N.E.2d 1154 (N.Y. 2002).published
  • People v. Lemmo, 141 N.Y.S.3d 711 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2021).published
  • People v. Crispino, 153 N.Y.S.3d 502 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2021).published
  • People v. Providence, 308 A.D.2d 200 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2003).published
  • People v. Hall, 2025 NY Slip Op 06727 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2025).published
92 N.Y.2d at 521 Determining waiver versus forfeiture of right to counsel27 citing cases“egregious conduct by defendants can lead to a deemed forfeiture of the fundamental right to counsel.”the opinion's own words at *521, quoted by 2 later opinions · 21 listed here
  • People v. Martinez, 2026 NY Slip Op 50803(U) (N.Y. App. Term. 2026).unpublished 5 cites
    The fact that defendant's counsel was not relieved, but remained in a standby capacity, does not excuse the court's failure to conduct a searching inquiry ( see Smith , 92 NY2d at 521; People v Gray , 236 AD3d 1095, 1096 [2025]; People v N…
  • People v. Lewis, 2026 NY Slip Op 01588 (N.Y. 2026).published
    But the majority cannot rely on forfeiture, because the People concede they never argued that point (oral argument tr at 20), and even if they raised it, forfeiture of the right to counsel can only be effectuated by "egregious conduct" by…
  • Matter of R.B. v. I.S., 2024 NY Slip Op 50228(U) (N.Y. Fam. Ct., Richmond Cty. 2024).unpublished 2 cites
    In People v. Smith 92 NY2d 516, 521 (Ct. of Appeals 1998), the Court of Appeals noted that there may be situations where "egregious conduct by defendants can lead to a deemed forfeiture of the fundamental right to counsel." In People v. Be…
  • People v. Shanks, 37 N.Y.3d 244 (N.Y. 2021).published
    We have recognized that “egregious conduct by [a] defendant[] can lead to a deemed forfeiture of the fundamental right to counsel,” but only as a matter of “extreme, last-resort . . . analysis” (People v Smith, 92 NY2d 516, 521 [1998]).
  • People v. Trammell, 123 N.Y.S.3d 1 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2020).published
    That a defendant may be better represented by counsel is immaterial ( see Schoolfield , 196 AD2d at 115-116 ). "[R]espect for individual autonomy requires that he be allowed to go to jail under his own banner if he so desires and if he mak…
  • People v. Grays, 2018 NY Slip Op 4392 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2018).published
    In ascertaining whether such a waiver is knowing, voluntary and intelligent, the court must "test an accused's understanding of the waiver" and be "reasonably certain that [he or she] appreciates the dangers and disadvantages of giving up…
  • People v. Hamilton, 133 A.D.3d 1090 (N.Y. App. Div. 3d Dep't 2015).published 2 cites
    County Court then engaged in the requisite inquiry, examining defendant’s “education, occupation, previous exposure to legal procedures and other relevant factors bearing on a competent, intelligent, voluntary waiver” (People v Smith, 92 N…
  • People v. Issac, 121 A.D.3d 816 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2014).published
    However, a finding of a forfeiture of the right to counsel is an “extreme, last[ ]resort” (People v Smith, 92 NY2d 516, 521 [1998]).
  • State v. Raul L., 120 A.D.3d 52 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2014).published 2 cites
    However, since “[implicit in a defendant’s assertion of [the] right to proceed pro se is the decision to disavow the constitutional right to counsel” (People v McIntyre, 36 NY2d at 17 ), the court must be satisfied that the defendant’s wai…
  • People v. Lewis, 114 A.D.3d 402 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2014).published 2 cites
    This requirement is not satisfied “simply by repeated judicial entreaties that a defendant persevere with the services of assigned counsel, or by judicial observations that a defendant’s interests are probably better served through a lawye…
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  • People v. Williams, 101 A.D.3d 1730 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2012).published 2 cites
    Moreover, defendant did not forfeit his right to counsel. “ ‘While egregious conduct by defendants can lead to a deemed forfeiture of the fundamental right to counsel’ . . . there was no such conduct by defendant here to warrant ‘an extrem…
  • People v. Rafikian, 98 A.D.3d 1139 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2012).published
    In particular, the record should show that the trial court “ ‘adequately warn[ed] [the] defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and appris[ed] [the] defendant of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system…
  • In the Matter of Kathleen K., 953 N.E.2d 773 (N.Y. 2011).published
  • People v. Lee, 19 A.D.3d 1148 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2005).published
  • In re Casey N., 59 A.D.3d 625 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2009).published
  • People v. Grueiro, 74 A.D.3d 1232 (N.Y. App. Div. 2d Dep't 2010).published
  • People v. Duffy, 275 A.D.2d 1006 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2000).published
  • People v. Bullock, 75 A.D.3d 1148 (N.Y. App. Div. 4th Dep't 2010).published
  • People v. Sargeant, 2025 NY Slip Op 06361 (N.Y. 2025).published
  • People v. Arroyo, 772 N.E.2d 1154 (N.Y. 2002).published
  • People v. Providence, 308 A.D.2d 200 (N.Y. App. Div. 1st Dep't 2003).published
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The People of the State of New York, Appellant,
v.
Leroy Smith, Respondent
New York Court of Appeals.
Dec 17, 1998.
Published opinion
705 N.E.2d 1205
1998 N.Y. LEXIS 4138
POINTS OF COUNSEL, Richard A. Brown, District Attorney of Queens County, Kew Gardens (Athena D. Kehoe and John M. Castellano of counsel), for appellant., Karen G. Leslie, Syosset, for respondent.
Bellacosa.
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[*518] OPINION OF THE COURT

Bellacosa, J.

The majority at the Appellate Division ordered a new trial in this case on the ground that the trial court improperly relieved assigned defense counsel during the course of the trial. Defendant proceeded with the rest of the trial pro se and was convicted. We must decide whether waiver of right to counsel principles apply, and whether the procedural protocols associated with that concept were observed. This is a People’s appeal, brought to this Court pursuant to permission granted by a dissenting Justice at the Appellate Division.

A jury found defendant guilty of criminal sale of a controlled substance in the third degree. At various points prior to and during the trial, defendant expressed dissatisfaction with his assigned counsel, complaining that the lawyer was not representing his interests satisfactorily. Defendant repeatedly requested new assigned counsel. He also maintained steadfastly that he could not represent himself pro se. The court denied each request for new counsel, as the case and then the trial unfolded.

During trial, defendant’s counsel added his request that he be relieved of the assignment. The attorney stated that defendant had threatened him during a recess by exclaiming that, if convicted, he would put a knife in the attorney’s head. The record exchanges, made in open court between the Trial Judge and the defendant show:

“the court: I told you, Mr. Smith, that that’s the only legal counsel you’re going to get. Now, you have no right — and I have no reason to disbelieve Mr. Kury, as an officer of the Court, if he told me you said something. So it looks like you don’t want Mr. Kury. So I’m going to let you proceed without Mr. Kury as your attorney. He will sit back there and if you want to ask him a question, he will give you legal advice. If you think you know how to conduct a cross-examination, you can do it, but you’re not going to abuse attorneys.
“the dependant: I’m not going to abuse attorneys, but it’s all right for an attorney to abuse me?
[*519] “the court: In what manner are you claiming that he abused you?
“the defendant: In what manner are you saying I abused him?
“the court: If he tells me that you threatened him, as an officer of the Court, I believe him. Are you telling me that he threatened you?
“the defendant: No, but I didn’t threaten him either. I just told the man it’s like there’s two D.A.’s in here.
“the court: I’m sure Mr. Kury will accept your apology if you want him to continue as your attorney.
“the defendant: No, there’s two D.A.’s in here.
“the court: That’s your opinion. I don’t see two D.A.’s in here.
“the defendant: Not on paper, but other than that.
“the court: And you don’t want him? You’re discharging him?
“the defendant: Now you’re discharging him, I’m not discharging him.
“mr. kury: Your Honor, I am—
“the court: I’m relieving him. He doesn’t have to take this abuse, I’m relieving him.”

Defendant then personally took up the cross-examination of the police officer who had been testifying prior to this interruption. Defendant completed the trial pro se, with the former counsel serving as a legal advisor.

On defendant’s appeal from the conviction, the Appellate Division concluded that the trial court had not adequately warned defendant as to the risks of proceeding pro se and that defendant’s implied waiver of his right to counsel was thus rendered ineffective. The Appellate Division reversed and ordered a new trial. Two dissenting Justices disagreed and would have affirmed the conviction. They concluded that the trial court did not err, in light of defendant’s threat, when it compelled defendant to choose between continuing with assigned counsel and proceeding pro se. In their view, defendant’s conduct rose to the level of and constituted a forfeiture of the right to counsel, by operation of law.

[*520] This Court has recognized that defendants may insist on foregoing the benefits associated with the right to counsel and proceeding on a pro se basis. We have consistently also cautioned, however, that the waiver of this fundamental right to counsel requires that a trial court must be satisfied that a defendant’s waiver is unequivocal, voluntary and intelligent; otherwise the waiver will not be recognized as effective (see, People v Slaughter, 78 NY2d 485; People v Sawyer, 57 NY2d 12, rearg dismissed 57 NY2d 776, cert denied 459 US 1178 [1983]).

To ascertain whether a waiver meets these appropriately rigorous requirements, the trial courts “ ‘should undertake a sufficiently “searching inquiry” ’ ” in order to be “ ‘reasonably certain’ ” that a defendant appreciates the “ ‘ “dangers and disadvantages” of giving up the fundamental right to counsel’ ” (People v Slaughter, supra, at 491; see, People v Sawyer, supra, at 21, citing Faretta v California, 422 US 806, 835; compare, People v Smith, 68 NY2d 737 [involving a defendant’s request to proceed pro se]). Governing principles demand that appropriate record exploration between the trial court and defendant be conducted, both to test an accused’s understanding of the waiver and to provide a reliable basis for appellate review (see, People v Sawyer, supra, at 21).

When a record lacks the requisite “searching inquiry” or fails to measure up to the prescribed standards, a waiver of the right to counsel will be deemed ineffective (see, id.; People v Slaughter, supra). To pass muster, a “searching inquiry” must reflect record evidence that defendants know what they are doing and that choices are exercised “ ‘with eyes open’ ” (see, Faretta v California, supra, at 835, quoting Adams v United States ex rel. McCann, 317 US 269, 279).

This Court has also signified that these record exchanges should affirmatively disclose that a trial court has delved into a defendant’s age, education, occupation, previous exposure to legal procedures and other relevant factors bearing on a competent, intelligent, voluntary waiver (see, People v McIntyre, 36 NY2d 10, 17). To be sure, this dialogue may occur in a nonformalistic, flexible manner, but it must accomplish the goals of adequately warning a defendant of the risks inherent in proceeding pro se, and apprising a defendant of the singular importance of the lawyer in the adversarial system of adjudication (see, People v Kaltenbach, 60 NY2d 797, 799; see also, United States v Plattner, 330 F2d 271, 276-277). Plattner emphasizes that the outline of the procedure to be followed is[*521] made for the use and guidance of Trial Judges, rather than as a rigidly applied formula, a protocol we fully endorse.

When a trial court deems a defendant’s refusal to cooperate with counsel (People v Slaughter, supra) or refusal to accept assigned counsel (People v Sawyer, supra) to be a waiver of the right to counsel, the “searching inquiry” prerequisite is not satisfied simply by repeated judicial entreaties that a defendant persevere with the services of assigned counsel, or by judicial observations that a defendant’s interests are probably better served through a lawyer’s representation (see, id,., at 21). Nor is the “searching inquiry” protocol met by a trial court reassuring a defendant that a relieved attorney will nevertheless remain nearby to offer side-bar legal advice (see, People v Slaughter, supra, at 492).

It is not necessary to, in this case, address forfeiture concepts, urged by the dissenting opinion at the Appellate Division. While egregious conduct by defendants can lead to a deemed forfeiture of the fundamental right to counsel, that analysis is not pertinent to this case (see, People v Gilchrist, 239 AD2d 306, lv denied 91 NY2d 834). The trial court did not resolve this matter on an extreme, last-resort forfeiture analysis, and defendant’s appeal did not proceed to the Appellate Division on that theory.

In this case, the Trial Judge engaged in a waiver-textured colloquy, similar to that presented in People v Sawyer and People v Slaughter. The trial court here offered defendant a choice to apologize and retain assigned counsel, or proceed pro se. That choice connotes something short of forfeiture and, instead, indicates a waiver analysis. Thus, the trial court’s action triggered a “searching inquiry” prerequisite to particularize defendant’s understanding of the “dangers and disadvantages” of proceeding pro se (see, People v Slaughter, supra; People v Sawyer, supra).

Since this record does not reflect fulfillment of the requisite probativeness at any time prior to the trial court’s discharge of assigned counsel in the midst of the cross-examination of a People’s witness, the Appellate Division majority correctly classified, analyzed and resolved this case on the waiver ground. This Court need go no further to resolve this appeal.

It is fair to note, however, that the trial colloquy, at several points in this record, regarding the possibility of defendant proceeding pro se, indicates that the Trial Judge made caution[*522] ary or encouraging statements to defendant about the fact that defendant had a right to an attorney, that defendant could “spend [his] time in [the] library and do it [himself]” or his attorney could represent him, that his assigned counsel was “excellent”, and that the assigned counsel was “as good as [defendant was] going to get”. Nonetheless, the trial court failed to explore and expose the key admonition that is designed to pointedly alert a defendant of potential pro se representation pitfalls and responsibilities. Indeed, the fact that defendant indicated that he was not willing or able to represent himself is not a satisfactory substitute for the trial court conducting a “searching inquiry”; rather, on this record, that feature highlights the need for the plainest examination of defendant’s understanding of the pertinent prerequisites before surrendering this counsel right (see, People v Sawyer, supra).

Accordingly, the order of the Appellate Division should be affirmed.

Chief Judge Kaye and Judges Smith, Levine, Ciparick and Wesley concur.

Order affirmed.