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discussed Cited as authority (rule) The People v. Robert Hinshaw
NY · 2020 · confidence medium
Although “[w]e recognize that the obvious impact of stopping the progress of an automobile is more intrusive than the minimal intrusion involved in stopping a pedestrian” (People v John BB, 56 NY2d 482, 487 [1982]), the same basic balancing is mandated by our Constitution, as explained in De Bour (id. at 217-218; see also Hollman, 79 NY2d at 189 ; People v Garcia, 20 NY3d 317, 324 [2012] [“the standards of De Bour and Hollman govern police-citizen encounters during lawful traffic stops”]).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Mannix (Brian)
N.Y. App. Term. · 2019 · confidence medium
The testimony of the arresting officer established that the creation and operation of the checkpoint had not been left to the discretion of the officers in the field ( see Matter of Muhammad F. , 94 NY2d 136, 142 [1999]; People v Mikalsen , 52 Misc 3d 142 [A], 2016 NY Slip Op 51197[U] [App Term, 2d Dept, 9th & 10th Jud Dists 2016]); that every driver had been stopped ( see City of Indianapolis v Edmond , 531 US 32, 39 [2000]; Matter of Muhammad F. , 94 NY2d at 146 ; People v John BB. , 56 NY2d 482, 488 [1982]); and that lighting and safety concerns, as well as concerns about "fair warning of t…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Stahl
N.Y. App. Div. · 2018 · confidence medium
Here, we agree with the People that defendant's vehicle was stopped "pursuant to a nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory and uniform procedure, involving the stop of all vehicles" approaching the checkpoint ( People v John BB. , 56 NY2d 482, 488 [1982], cert denied 459 US 1010 [1982]).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Gavenda
N.Y. App. Div. · 2011 · confidence medium
Defendant’s vehicle was stopped “pursuant to a nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory and uniform procedure, involving the stop of all vehicles” approaching the roadblock (People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 488 [1982], cert denied 459 US 1010 [1982]).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Lattarulo
N.Y. Sup. Ct. · 2009 · confidence medium
(See People v Spencer, 84 NY2d 749, 752-753 [1995]; People v May, 81 NY2d 725, 727-728 [1992]; People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 487 [1982].) When Miller approached the defendant in his car, Miller did not have a reasonable suspicion that the defendant had committed any criminal activity and was not seeking to detain him to investigate any crime.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Estrella
N.Y. App. Div. · 2008 · confidence medium
Motor vehicle stops constitute “at least a limited seizure subject to constitutional limitations” (People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 487 [1982], cert denied 459 US 1010 [1982]) and, in our view, where a stop is predicated on a traffic infraction, police officers must be charged with the objective standard of knowing whether such an infraction occurred (see generally Robinson, 97 NY2d at 349-350 ).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Carter
nydistct · 2005 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
While clearly written guidelines would make it easier for a court to review the nature, manner and purpose of a roadblock/checkpoint stop, the Court’s decision in Muhammad was ultimately based “[o]n the scanty proof adduced in these cases, [that] there was a failure either to establish the reasonableness of the patrol stops here under the three-pronged balancing test of Brown v Texas (supra) or to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the stops were ‘carried out pursuant to a plan embody ing explicit, neutral limitations on the conduct of individual officers’ (id., at 51; cf., Pe…
examined Cited as authority (rule) Matter of Muhammad F. (8×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
NY · 1999 · confidence medium
Absent from the record is any evidence that the operation of a stationary checkpoint by uniformed officers in marked police cars was “impractical” (United States v Martinez-Fuerte, supra, at 557) or that circumstances did not “permit any meaningful utilization of [such] traditional investigative procedures” (People v John BB., supra, at 488).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Boswell
N.Y. App. Div. · 1998 · confidence medium
This requires that a court evaluating the legality of the stop and seizure balance the consequential intrusion into the individual’s Fourth Amendment interests against the promotion of legitimate governmental interests (People v John BB., supra, at 487; People v Scott, 63 NY2d 518, 525 ; Delaware v Prouse, supra, at 657).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Muhammad F.
N.Y. App. Div. · 1998 · confidence medium
Conspicuously absent is “the administrative adoption of standards, guidelines or procedures promulgated by higher governmental officials than the police officer in the field” (People v John BB., supra, at 490 [Meyer, J., dissenting]).
cited Cited as authority (rule) People v. Hernandez
N.Y. Sup. Ct. · 1998 · confidence medium
(People v John BB., supra, at 487-488.) To be distinguished from this is the case of People v Spencer ( 84 NY2d 749 , supra).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Abad
N.Y. Sup. Ct. · 1997 · confidence medium
(See, People v David L., 56 NY2d 698 [1982]; People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 487 [1982].) While there are no specific published cases dealing with the TRIP, the cases dealing with whether the safety check stops of cabs are lawful seem to go both ways.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Spencer
NY · 1995 · confidence medium
Those cases hold that the validity of an informational vehicular stop by the police, such as here, on less than individualized suspicion of criminal activity of an occupant of the vehicle, is dependent on its "reasonableness”, to be determined on a case-by-case basis by balancing the particular intrusion on the privacy interests of the individual involved against the State’s legitimate interest in the inquiry (see, People v Scott, supra, at 525; People v John BB., supra, at 487).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Rosario
N.Y. City Crim. Ct. · 1994 · confidence medium
Because none of the specific procedures or safeguards which were crucial to the Court’s decision in Scott and John BB. (supra) were promulgated or followed in this case, there was nothing to prevent these officers from stopping a cab based on a gut feeling, as testified to by Police Officer Scomillio, or "mere whim, caprice, or idle curiosity.” (People v John BB., 56 NY2d, at 488.) That the methods employed by this patrol were unreasonable is illustrated not only by the stop itself but by what occurred after the cab was stopped.
examined Cited as authority (rule) People v. Spencer (5×)
N.Y. App. Div. · 1993 · confidence medium
"While this proscription generally forbids any unwarranted intrusion into the private affairs or conduct of any individual, we have noted that there is no absolute right to be free from all official inquisitorial interference however minimally intrusive” (People v John BB., supra, at 487; see also, People v De Bour, 40 NY2d 210 , supra).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Cascarano (2×) also: Cited "see"
N.Y. City Crim. Ct. · 1992 · confidence medium
(People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 487 [1982].) Moreover, in making such a determination as to reasonableness, perhaps the single most important factor for the court to consider is "the degree of discretion vested in the officials” who carry out the investigation.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Scott
NY · 1992 · confidence medium
Though not expressed in our Federal or State Constitutions, the protection of an individual’s reasonable expectation of privacy has consistently been recognized as the core of the constitutional guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures (see, e.g., Matter of Caruso v Ward, 72 NY2d 432, 437 [search and seizure analysis rests directly on the uniquely private nature of the act and the individual’s privacy right]; Matter of Patchogue-Medford Congress of Teachers v Board of Educ., 70 NY2d 57, 66 [article I, § 12 of State Constitution and Fourth Amendment designed to protect the pers…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Evans (2×)
N.Y. City Crim. Ct. · 1992 · confidence medium
(People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 488-489 [1982].) The fact that the utilization of traditional law enforcement techniques would not have been meaningful in light of the large area in which the investigation was conducted, as well as the State’s interest in apprehending the persons who victimized summer homes during the winter months when the owners were away, justified the use of roadblocks.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Poteat
N.Y. Sup. Ct. · 1987 · confidence medium
In Scott (supra, at 525 ) the court noted that: "[Individualized suspicion is not a prerequisite to a constitutional seizure of an automobile which is 'carried out pursuant to a plan embodying explicit, neutral limitations on the conduct of individual officers’ Similarly, in People v John BB. ( 56 NY2d 482, 488 [1982]) the Court of Appeals found that the evidence was sufficient to establish that the stop was made "pursuant to a nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory and uniform procedure, involving the stop of all vehicles located in the heavily burglarized area”.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Millan
N.Y. App. Div. · 1986 · confidence medium
(People v John BB., 56 NY2d, at p 487; United States v Brignoni-Ponce, 422 US 873 , supra.) Thus, the stop of an automobile on the public highway "is justified only when conducted pursuant to 'nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory, uniform’ highway traffic procedures, or when there is specific cause or, at least, reasonable suspicion that a motorist is about to violate a law.” (People v Sobotker, 43 NY2d, at p 563 , citing People v Ingle, 36 NY2d 413 , supra.) Reasonable suspicion, defined as "the quantum of knowledge sufficient to induce an ordinarily prudent and cautious man under the circumst…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) People v. Scott
NY · 1984 · confidence medium
The permissibility of a particular practice is a function of its “reasonableness,” which is determined by balancing its intrusion on the Fourth Amendment interests of the individual involved against its promotion of legitimate governmental interests (People v John BB., supra, at p 487; United States v Villamonte-Marquez, 462 US 579 ; Delaware v Prouse, supra, at p 657).
discussed Cited "see" People v. Figueroa (Russell)
N.Y. App. Term. · 2020 · signal: see · confidence high
The procedure followed, namely, stopping every vehicle approaching the checkpoint, was "uniform and not gratuitous or subject to individually discriminatory selection" ( People v Serrano , 233 AD2d 170, 171 [1996]; see People v John BB. , 56 NY2d 482, 488 [1982]; People v Stahl , 167 AD3d at 1556; People v Kemper , 65 Misc 3d 150[A] , 2019 NY Slip Op 51855[U] ; People v Mannix , 63 Misc 3d 131[A] , 2019 NY Slip Op 50411[U] [App Term, 2d Dept, 9th & 10th Jud Dists 2019]; People v Ramirez , 62 Misc 3d 146[A] , 2019 NY Slip Op 50203[U] ; People v Mikalsen , 52 Misc 3d 142[A] , 2016 NY Slip Op 511…
discussed Cited "see" People v. Palmer
N.Y. App. Div. · 2018 · signal: see · confidence high
"The application of the exclusionary rule requires a commonsense appraisal of whether the suppression of the challenged evidence will remove in the future the motive for similar improper police conduct" ( People v Rogers , 52 NY2d 527, 535 [1981], cert denied 454 US 898 [1981]; see People v John BB. , 81 AD2d 188, 192 [1981], affd 56 NY2d 482 [1982], cert denied 459 US 1010 [1982]).
examined Cited "see" State v. Koppel (3×)
N.H. · 1985 · signal: see · confidence high
See People v. John BB., 56 N.Y.2d 482, 487 , 438 N.E.2d 864, 866 , 453 N.Y.S.2d 158, 161 , cert. denied, 459 U.S. 1010 (1982); cf Berkemer v. McCarty, 104 S. Ct. 3138, 3150 (1984).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." People v. Mikalsen (Ryan)
N.Y. App. Term. · 2016 · signal: see also · confidence medium
City of Indianapolis v Edmond , 531 US 32, 39 [2000] [stop of every vehicle is nondiscriminatory]; Matter of Muhammad F. , 94 NY2d at 146 ["Suspicionless stops . . . of all oncoming traffic at roadblock-t [*2] ype stops' to check driver license and registration are permissible"], quoting Delaware v Prouse , 440 US 648, 663 [1979]; see also People v John BB. , 56 NY2d 482, 488 [1982]; People v Gavenda , 88 AD3d 1295 , 1296 [2011]).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." People v. Holley
N.Y. City Crim. Ct. · 1993 · signal: see also · confidence low
(See also, People v Ingle, 36 NY2d 413 [1975].) In evaluating the validity of a checkpoint, the court must consider "the degree of the intrusion of the procedure on the individual subjected to it, measured in terms of both its subjective effect and the degree of discretion vested in the officials charged with carrying it out.” (People v Scott, 63 NY2d, at 525 .) The reviewing court must ensure that the roadblock was "being maintained in accordance with a uniform procedure which afforded little discretion to operating personnel, and that adequate precautions as to safety, lighting and fair wa…
examined Cited "see, e.g." State v. Kirk (3×)
N.J. Super. Ct. App. Div. · 1985 · signal: see also · confidence low
See also People v. John B.B., 56 N.Y. 2d 482 , 453 N.Y.S. 2d 158 , 438 N.E. 2d 864 , cert. den. 459 U.S. 1010 , 103 S.Ct. 365 , 74 L.Ed. 2d 400 (1982) (roving patrol in remote, sparsely populated rural area condoned to thwart rash of burglaries).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." People v. Jones
N.Y. Sup. Ct. · 1984 · signal: see also · confidence low
(See Delaware v Prouse, 440 US 648, 662-663 , supra; see, also, People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482 , supra; Parkhurst v State, 628 P2d 1369, 1374 [Wyo], supra.) The reasonableness of the seizure “requires a balancing of the State’s interest in the inquiry at issue against the individual’s interest in being free from [arbitrary] governmental interference.” (People v John BB., 56 NY2d 482, 487 , supra; United States v Brignoni-Ponce, 422 US 873 , supra; United States v Montgomery, 561 F2d 875, 878; State v DeMasi, supra.) Accordingly, police officers may stop a car on a public highway only w…
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The People of the State of New York
v.
John BB. and Stephen CC.
New York Court of Appeals.
Jul 2, 1982.
438 N.E.2d 864
1982 N.Y. LEXIS 3467
Steven S. Katz for appellants., Stephen F. Lungen, District Attorney (Frank J. Labuda and Jeffrey L. Kirsch of counsel), for respondent.
Meyer, Wachtler.
Cited by 68 opinions  |  Published

Lead Opinion

OPINION OF THE COURT

Wachtler, J.

In response to a series of burglaries committed in a remote rural region, the local police stopped vehicles traveling in the area. The stops were conducted in a uniform, nonarbitrary and nondiscriminatory manner for the purpose of ascertaining the identity of the occupants and obtaining information regarding the criminal activity. The question on this appeal is whether these stops violate the constitutional proscription against unreasonable searches and seizures.

[*486] On December 19,1978 the New York State Police discovered that approximately 40 burglaries of vacant summer homes had occurred in the sparsely populated area of Sullivan County’s Anawanda-Tennanah Lake region. Investigator Connors began surveillance of the area on December 21 with the expressed intent of stopping all of the vehicles that he found and interviewing all people in the general vicinity of the lake.

At about 9:30 p.m. on the same day, defendant Stephen CC.’s automobile was stopped by Connors’ unmarked parked police cruiser and two other police vehicles.

In response to a demand for his driving license and automobile registration, defendant Stephen CC. exited from the car to produce the requested documents. Connors then looked inside the open car door with his flashlight and observed a rifle case protruding from under the front seat as well as several flashlights lying on the floor of the vehicle. Connors seized the rifle case, opened it and discovered that it contained a pellet gun. One of the officers recalled that a pellet gun had been reported stolen from one of the nearby cottages.

Defendant Stephen CC., when asked where he obtained the gun, responded that he bought it from a friend along with a pair of audio speakers which were in the trunk. He could not, however, remember the name of the friend who had sold him the items. Since speakers had also been reported stolen from one of the burglarized cottages, the trunk was opened without Stephen CC.’s consent and the speakers were seized. The other three passengers in the car, including defendant John BB., responded to interrogation regarding their activities in the area with conflicting statements.

Both defendants were taken to police headquarters, waived their rights, and confessed to the commission of several burglaries. After being indicted on multiple counts of burglary in the second degree (Penal Law, § 140.25, subd 1), defendants moved to suppress their confessions and the evidence seized from Stephen CC.’s vehicle on the ground that the initial stop of the vehicle was not grounded upon reasonable suspicion of current criminal activity and[*487] was therefore unconstitutional. Following denial of that motion defendants pleaded guilty to four counts of attempted burglary in the second degree (Penal Law, §§ 110.00, 140.25, subd 1) and were adjudicated youthful offenders. The Appellate Division upheld the validity of the roving roadblock and affirmed the judgment of the court below. We agree with the Appellate Division’s determination that the procedure employed by the police was constitutionally permissible and therefore affirm.

The defendants are correct in their contention that the Constitutions, both Federal and State, protect an individual from unreasonable searches or seizures conducted by law enforcement officials. And although not every encounter of an inquisitorial nature rises to the level of a seizure within the meaning of the constitutional language, it cannot be disputed that the stop of Stephen CC.’s automobile was at least a limited seizure subject to constitutional limitations (Delaware v Prouse, 440 US 648; People v Ingle, 36 NY2d 413).

The question then is whether the stop of the defendants was the type of unreasonable seizure prohibited by the Constitution. While this proscription generally forbids any unwarranted intrusion into the private affairs or conduct of any individual, we have noted that there is no absolute right to be free from all official inquisitorial interference however minimally intrusive (People v De Bour, 40 NY2d 210). The indefiniteness of the term “unreasonable” militates against the construction of a general rule of universal application for determining the validity of official intrusions of this nature. Rather, the facts of each case must be examined and the essential inquiry is whether the police conduct may be characterized as reasonable, which in turn requires a balancing of the State’s interest in the inquiry at issue against the individual’s interest in being free from governmental interference (Delaware v Prouse, 440 US 648, supra; People v De Bour, 40 NY2d 210, supra).

We recognize that the obvious impact of stopping the progress of an automobile is more intrusive than the minimal intrusion involved in stopping a pedestrian (People v De Bour, supra; cf. People v Cantor, 36 NY2d 106). But this does not mean that the broad range of factors relevant for[*488] the purpose of constitutional examination can never be analyzed in a manner which leads to the ultimate conclusion that the State may stop an automobile and question the occupants for legitimate reasons.

The evidence as developed at the suppression hearing establishes that the determination of the police to stop Stephen CC.’s vehicle was made pursuant to a nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory and uniform procedure, involving the stop of all vehicles located in the heavily burglarized area, in order to facilitate the concededly legitimate function of acquiring information regarding the recent burglaries. The remote, sparsely populated area subject to surveillance was too large to permit any meaningful utilization of traditional investigative procedures, and the roving patrol was limited to stopping vehicles located in the region in which there had been a large number of burglaries. Under these circumstances the momentary inconvenience inevitable in this police confrontation cannot be said to be unreasonable.

The record before us demonstrates that the stop of Stephen CC.’s vehicle was not undertaken with an intent to harass and was based on much more than the mere whim, caprice, or idle curiosity of government officials. Although not controlling, the elimination of the element of arbitrariness has been identified time and again as a critical factor in determining the reasonableness of official investigative activity of an intrusive nature (e.g., United States v Martinez-Fuerte, 428 US 543, 554; People v De Bour, 40 NY2d 210, supra; People v Ingle, 36 NY2d 413, 419, supra). For this reason, too, the cases relied on by defendants, involving official intrusion of a random and discriminatory nature, are inapposite (United States v Brignoni-Ponce, 422 US 873; People v Sobotker, 43 NY2d 559). In fact, in United States v Martinez-Fuerie (428 US 543, supra), the Supreme Court held that nonrandom checkpoint border stops do not violate the Fourth Amendment because they present no potential for unlimited interference with the use of the highways subject only to the unbridled discretion of government officials. For similar reasons we hold that the Fourth Amendment does not prohibit the police from em[*489] ploying a roving roadblock in a uniform and nondiscriminatory manner in a sparsely populated area in which there has been a recent series of burglaries.*

Defendants also contend that even if the initial stop and request for information were proper, the subsequent seizure of the pellet gun and speakers was prohibited. This claim is without merit. The rifle case was in plain view and Investigator Connors acted reasonably in seizing the case and examining its contents for the protection of himself and the other officers. The pellet gun was then identified as potential contraband and this fact, combined with the conflicting explanations offered by the occupants of the vehicle and Stephen CC.’s own statements about the speakers, also known to be reported stolen, supplied the necessary exigency and probable cause to believe that the vehicle contained additional contraband, thereby justifying the warrantless opening of the vehicle’s trunk compartment (United States v Ross, 456 US_, 50 USLW 4580 [June 1, 1982]; People v Kreichman, 37 NY2d 693).

We have reviewed the various other contentions raised by defendants on appeal and find that they, too, are without merit.

Accordingly, the order of the Appellate Division should be affirmed.

None of the cases cited by the dissenter prohibit the execution of an investigative procedure which is characterized and circumscribed by its uniform and nondiscriminatory nature and which therefore eliminates any element of arbitrariness in the decision to apply the procedure to a particular vehicle or individual. Indeed without exception the cases decided by this court which are relied upon by the dissenter involve the seizure of one particular individual or automobile upon whom an investigation had already focused. In each case the seizure was held improper because it was based upon neither probable cause nor reasonable suspicion of criminal activity (People u Sobotker, 43 NY2d 559 [sole automobile stopped in vicinity where several burglaries were recently reported]; People v Cantor, 36 NY2d 106 [sole automobile stopped after occupant observed for one hour engaging in suspected criminal activity]; People v Schanbarger, 24 NY2d 288 [sole individual stopped after being observed walking on public highway in area subject to “frequent burglaries”]). Our decision today in no way affects the validity of these cases.

Dissent

Meyer, J.

(dissenting). The concept that the need to obtain information concerning numerous recent burglaries in a rural area authorizes an individual police officer to[*490] stop every vehicle in the area, without information about or observation of the vehicle or its occupants which gives rise to reasonable suspicion of criminal activity involving it or them, is so inconsistent with prior precedent under both the Federal and the State Constitutions, that I cannot accept it. As is apparent from the failure of the majority to make any reference to the conduct of defendants or the vehicle prior to the conceded seizure of the vehicle (at p 487) and its repeated reference to a nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory and uniform procedure for stopping all vehicles (at pp 485,488,489), the majority’s ruling leaves to the unconstrained discretion of the officer in the field (provided only that he takes the same action with respect to every vehicle) action which has heretofore been acceptable only after judicial issuance of an area warrant or the administrative adoption of standards, guidelines or procedures promulgated by higher governmental officials than the police officer in the field, or by an exigency, such as the immediate necessity to blockade an area against the escape of a kidnapper with his victim. I, therefore, respectfully dissent.

Clear from the testimony of Troopers Connors and Greaves* is it that Connors’ “plan” was to stop every vehicle in the area in order to inquire of any occupant who he was and what he was doing in the area, to see if he might be the burglar or have been a witness to any of the burglaries. Brown v Texas (443 US 47, 52) flatly held that as to an individual whose activity was no different than that of others in the neighborhood, a stop the purpose of which was to ascertain identity and for which the officers lacked reasonable suspicion to believe the person stopped to be engaged or have been engaged in criminal conduct violated the Fourth Amendment (443 US, at p 53), notwithstanding that the neighborhood was one frequented by drug users {id., at p 52).

That the Supreme Court will not approve the procedure now sanctioned by the majority of this court is strongly suggested by its Per Curiam holding in Reid v Georgia (448 US 438, 440), that: “The Fourth and Fourteenth Amend-[*491] merits’ prohibition of searches and seizures that are not supported by some objective justification governs all seizures of the person, ‘including seizures that involve only a brief detention short of traditional arrest. Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U. S. 721 (1969); Terry v. Ohio, 392 U. S. 1, 16-19 (1968).’ United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U. S. 873, 878 (1975). While the Court has recognized that in some circumstances a person may be detained briefly, without probable cause to arrest him, any curtailment of a person’s liberty by the police must be supported at least by a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the person seized is engaged in criminal activity” (italics supplied). Even though the purpose for stopping an individual to obtain identification is the prevention of crime, if there is no overweening emergency and the stop is not based on objective criteria for believing that the person stopped is involved in criminal activity, the risk of arbitrary and abusive police practices exceeds tolerable Fourth Amendment limits (Brown v Texas, 443 US 47, 52, supra; but see United States v Martinez-Fuerte, 428 US 543, 560, n 14). Some quantum of individualized suspicion is a prerequisite in order “to assure that the individual’s reasonable expectation of privacy is not ‘subject to the discretion of the official in the field’ ” (Delaware v Prouse, 440 US 648, 655).

Absent an emergency of the type above referred to, only two exceptions to these requirements have been recognized by the Supreme Court. Without finally deciding the question, the court has in United States v Martinez-Fuerte (428 US 543, 564-566, supra) and United States v Brignoni-Ponce (422 US 873, 882, n 7, supra) discussed the possible availability of a judicially issued “area” warrant. It has also held that when the decision to “seize” is made not by the officer in the field but through a plan devised administratively and “embodying explicit, neutral limitations on the conduct of individual officers” (Brown v Texas, 443 US 47, 51, supra) and the need for such stops in furtherance of the public interest has been demonstrated, checkpoint stops, as distinct from roving patrols of the type undertaken by Trooper Connors in the instant case, are permissible (Delaware v Prouse, 440 US 648, 663, supra; United States v Martinez-Fuerte, 428 US 543, 562, supra; United [*492] States v Brignoni-Ponce, 422 US 873, 882-884, supra). Here not only was the procedure which the majority holds constitutional devised by the field officer alone, but also there has been no showing of the efficacy of that roving patrol procedure as compared with other available procedures to achieve the end for which instituted (cf. Delaware v Prouse, supra, at pp 658-661).

New York decisions provide no greater support for. the majority’s conclusion. People v Schanbarger (24 NY2d 288, 291) held a trooper’s testimony that at 3 a.m. he observed defendant in an area in which there had been “frequent burglaries” was “clearly insufficient to establish any basis for a reasonable suspicion that the defendant might be engaged or was about to engage in crime” (italics in original). People v Cantor (36 NY2d 106,112-114) held a seizure essentially similar to that which occurred in the present case to be without justification, the record being barren of specific and articulable facts amounting to “reasonable suspicion that such person is committing, has committed, or is about to commit a crime.” People v Ingle (36 NY2d 413), as explained in People v Sobotker (43 NY2d 559, 563), stressed that a stop of a motor vehicle on a public highway “is justified only when conducted pursuant to ‘nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory, uniform’ highway traffic procedures [italics added], or when there is specific cause or, at least, reasonable [italics in original] suspicion that a motorist is about to violate a law.” Sobotker’s holding was that the act of defendant and his companions in slowing down and glancing at first one bar and then another did not furnish reasonable suspicion for the stop of defendant’s vehicle even though a number of burglaries had recently been reported in the vicinity. And as recently as People v Howard (50 NY2d 583, 590) we reaffirmed the Schanbarger and Sobotker rulings, while holding that the carrying by the male defendant of a woman’s vanity case and his furtive actions when he became aware that he was being observed provided sufficient basis for an inquiry, but no more. Here, of course, no action of the defendants provides any basis for inquiry much less the seizure of defendants and their vehicle, which the majority concedes (at p 487) occurred.

[*493] The procedure followed in the present case was not a nonarbitrary, nondiscriminatory, uniform highway traffic procedure. It was, by the majority’s concession clearly a seizure, rather than a stop, and was justified neither by any emergency, nor reasonable suspicion concerning defendants, nor a judicially issued warrant nor an administratively approved checkpoint plan. It was, therefore, unconstitutional.

The order of the Appellate Division should be reversed, the convictions vacated, the evidence and statements suppressed and the indictment dismissed.

Chief Judge Cooke and Judges Jasen, Gabrielli and Jones concur with Judge Wachtler; Judge Meyer dissents and votes to reverse in a separate opinion in which Judge Fuchsberg concurs.

Order affirmed.

The relevance of such testimony is established by the Supreme Court’s decisions in Brown v Texas (443 US 47, 52); Delaware v Prouse (440 US 648, 650), and United. States v Brignoni-Ponce (422 US 873, 875, 886, n 11).