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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Lynch v. City Of New York
S.D.N.Y. · 2021 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the crime-fraud exception does not apply simply because privileged communications would provide an adversary with evidence of a crime or fraud.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Horwitt v. Sarroff (2×) also: Cited "see"
D. Conn. · 2019 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the crime-fraud exception applies only where there is probable cause to believe that the particular communication with counsel or attorney work product was intended in some way to facilitate or to conceal the criminal activity.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) State v. Boatwright
Kan. Ct. App. · 2017 · signal: see, e.g. · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the crime-fraud exception does not apply simply because privileged communications would provide an adversary with evidence of a crime or fraud.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) In re Omnicom Group Inc. Securities Litigation (4×) also: Cited as authority (rule), Cited "see", Cited "see, e.g."
S.D.N.Y. · 2006 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
a party seeking to invoke the crime-fraud exception must at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted ...
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) In Re Grand Jury v.
1st Cir. · 1999 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
although there is a societal interest in enabling clients to get sound legal advice, there is no such interest when the communications or advice are intended to further the commission of a crime or fraud.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Purcell v. District Attorney for Suffolk District
Mass. · 1997 · signal: see also · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the crime-fraud exception does not apply simply because privileged communications would provide an adversary with evidence of a crime or fraud
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dena Burge, Leigh Hockett, Jordan Furlan, Anne Arundel County, Maryland, Cristine Ridey, and Patricia Sawczuk, individually and on behalf of all others similarly situated v. Teva Pharmaceuticals Industries, Ltd., Teva Pharmaceuticals USA, Inc., Teva Parenteral Medicines, Inc., Teva Neuroscience, Inc., Teva Sales & Marketing, Inc., Cephalon, Inc.
D. Kan. · 2026 · confidence medium
Richard Roe held that the crime-fraud exception applies only when (1) “the court determines that the client communication . . . in question was itself in furtherance of the crime or fraud” and (2) “there is probable cause to believe that the particular communication with counsel . . . was intended in some way to facilitate or to conceal the criminal activity.” 68 F.3d at 40 (emphasis omitted).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Anderson v. Credit One Bank, N.A.
Bankr. S.D.N.Y. · 2025 · confidence medium
Plaintiff further states that “the crime-fraud exception applies where there is a fraud upon the court” and “probable cause to believe that the particular communication with counsel or attorney work product was intended in some way to facilitate or conceal the fraudulent activity.” [Privilege Motion, Doc. 199, p. 7]. (citing In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 39 (2d Cir. 1995); In re St.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Molnlycke Health Care US, LLC v. Greenwood Marketing, LLC
S.D.N.Y. · 2024 · confidence medium
Dec. 21, 2023) (quoting In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In Re: Search Warrant Dated November 3, 2021
2d Cir. · 2024 · confidence medium
Moreover, “it is well-established that communications that otherwise would be protected by the attorney-client privilege . . . are not protected if they relate to client communications in furtherance of contemplated or ongoing criminal or fraudulent conduct.” United States v. Roe (In re Richard Roe, Inc.), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995) (alteration adopted) (internal quotation marks and citation omitted). “[A] party seeking to invoke the crime-fraud exception must at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that th…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) DRC LV Ventures, LLC v. Dalpour
S.D.N.Y. · 2024 · confidence medium
LEGAL STANDARD Communications that would otherwise be protected by the attorney-client privilege “are not protected if they relate to client communications in furtherance of contemplated or ongoing criminal or fraudulent conduct.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995) (quoting In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum Dated September 15, 1983, 731 F.2d 1032, 1038 (2d Cir. 1984)).
examined Cited as authority (rule) DRC LV Ventures, LLC v. Dalpour (3×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
S.D.N.Y. · 2024 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Richards v. Kallish
S.D.N.Y. · 2023 · confidence medium
Whether the Crime-Fraud Exception Applies “[I]t is well-established that communications that otherwise would be protected by the attorney-client privilege or the attorney work product privilege are not protected if they relate to client communications in furtherance of contemplated or ongoing criminal or fraudulent conduct.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995). “[T]here is a societal interest in enabling clients to get sound legal advice, [but] there is no such interest when the communications or advice are intended to further the commission of a crime or fraud.” Id.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Skillz Platform Inc. v. AviaGames Inc.
N.D. Cal. · 2023 · confidence medium
See In re Grand Jury Investigation, 810 F.3d at 1114 (holding that in camera review is 27 required at step 2 of the crime-fraud analysis); In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 41 (2d Cir. 1 1995) (remanding to the district court “for an examination of each document under the proper 2 standard”).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Spectrum Dynamics Medical Limited v. General Electric Company
S.D.N.Y. · 2023 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Spectrum Dynamics Medical Limited v. General Electric Company
S.D.N.Y. · 2023 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Suber v. VVP Services, LLC
S.D.N.Y. · 2023 · confidence medium
As relevant here, the crime-fraud exception provides that communications cannot be protected where they were “made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.” United States v. Richard Roe, Inc. (In Re Richard Roe, Inc.), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995) (cleaned up). “[A] party seeking the production of otherwise privileged documents pursuant to the crime-fraud exception must make two showings.” New York v. Mayorkas, No. 20-cv-1127 (JMF), 2021 WL 2850631 , at *8 (S.D.N.Y.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Securities and Exchange Commission v. Rayat
S.D.N.Y. · 2023 · confidence medium
Application of the crime-fraud exception requires a party to “at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof.” United States v. Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995) (emphasis added).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Robinson v. De Niro (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
S.D.N.Y. · 2022 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Michael Grecco Productions, Inc. v. Alamy Inc. (2×) also: Cited "see"
E.D.N.Y · 2022 · confidence medium
Judge Orenstein identified the correct controlling standard for the crime-fraud exception—whether “there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof” (M&O, Dkt. 100, at 3 (quoting In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995)))—then applied that standard to the facts of this case and concluded that the crime-fraud exception applied (id. at 4–8).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Italiano v. Midland Funding, LLC
E.D.N.Y · 2021 · confidence medium
“In the Second Circuit, application of the crime-fraud exception requires a party to ‘demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof.’” Linde v. Arab Bank, 608 F. Supp. 2d 351, 357 (E.D.N.Y. 2009) (quoting In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995)); accord United States v. Jacobs, 117 F.3d 82, 87 (2d Cir. 1997).
examined Cited as authority (rule) State of New York v. Mayorkas (4×) also: Cited "see"
S.D.N.Y. · 2021 · confidence medium
The Crime-Fraud Exception Finally, Plaintiffs contend that Defendants’ assertions of privilege and the work-product doctrine should be rejected pursuant to the “crime-fraud exception,” which provides that communications cannot be protected where they were “made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.” United States v. Richard Roe, Inc. (In Re Richard Roe, Inc.), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995) (“Roe I”) (internal quotation marks omitted).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Sparrow Fund Management LP v. Mimedx Group, Inc.
S.D.N.Y. · 2021 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995);3 In re New York City Asbestos Litig., 109 A.D.3d 7 , 10, 966 N.Y.S.2d 420 , 422 (1st Dep’t 2013).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States Securities and Exchange Commission v. Collector's Coffee Inc.
S.D.N.Y. · 2021 · confidence medium
Instead, . . . the client communication or attorney work product in question [must] itself [be] in furtherance of the crime or fraud.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995) (emphasis in original).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Knopf v. Esposito
S.D.N.Y. · 2021 · confidence medium
Instead, the exception applies only when the court determines that the client communication . . . in question was itself in furtherance of the crime or fraud.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Cox v. Department of Justice (2×)
E.D.N.Y · 2020 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Michael Grecco Productions, Inc. v. Alamy Inc.
E.D.N.Y · 2020 · confidence medium
Mar. 9, 2018) (quoting In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Stinson v. Union Mutual Fire Ins. Co.
Vt. Super. Ct. · 2019 · confidence medium
Cir. 1996); or by “probable cause to belief that a crime or fraud has been attempted and the communications were in furtherance thereof” (In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Buttonwood Tree Value Partners, L.P. v. R.L. Polk & Co., Inc. (2×)
Del. Ch. · 2018 · confidence medium
Co., 883 A.2d at 59 n.26 (quoting In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995)). 36 In re Grand Jury Subpoena, 745 F.3d at 693 . 13 “merely upon a showing that the client communicated with counsel while the client was engaged in criminal [or fraudulent] activity.”37 The Defendants argue that the crime-fraud exception is inapplicable here because the Plaintiffs have disclaimed any intention of bringing a fraud claim. 38 As the Defendants point out, at the motion-to-dismiss stage, the Plaintiffs styled their claim as one for breach of fiduciary duties stemming from, among other thi…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Tucker
S.D.N.Y. · 2017 · confidence medium
The attorney-client privilege applies to confidential legal advice, and “is designed to promote unfettered communication between attorneys and their clients so that the attorney may give fully informed legal advice.” See generally In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 39-40 (2d Cir. 1995) (“Roe I”).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Securities Investor Protection Corp. v. Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC
S.D.N.Y. · 2017 · confidence medium
In this Circuit, however, it is clear that a party seeking to invoke the crime-fraud exception must “at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995) (“Roe I”) (emphasis added) (citing In re John Doe, Inc., 13 F.3d 633, 637 (2d Cir. 1994)); accord United States v. Jacobs, 117 F.3d 82, 87 (1997).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Nuss v. Sabad
N.D.N.Y. · 2013 · confidence medium
Instead, the exception applies only when the court determines that the client communication ... in question was itself in furtherance of the crime or fraud.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995). 3 After reviewing the Declaration in light of the record, the Court finds that Plaintiffs have not provided sufficient facts showing that the confidential communications to the Attorney were in furtherance of a fraud or crime.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Thai-Lao Lignite (Thailand) Co. v. Government of the Lao People's Democratic Republic
S.D.N.Y. · 2013 · confidence medium
Ltr., at 8-9) that the crime/fraud exception to privilege does not come into play merely because a crime or fraud is believed to have occurred, but rather when there is reason to believe that the otherwise-privileged communication was made “in furtherance” of that bad act, see In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Amusement Industry, Inc. v. Stern
S.D.N.Y. · 2013 · confidence medium
On the other hand, “the crime-fraud exception does not apply simply because privileged communications would provide an adversary with evidence of a crime or fraud---- Instead, ... the client communication or attorney work product in question [must] itself [be] in furtherance of the crime or fraud.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995) (emphasis in original).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Complex Systems, Inc. v. ABN AMRO Bank N.V.
S.D.N.Y. · 2011 · confidence medium
Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995) (quoting In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum Dated Sept. 15, 1983, 731 F.2d 1032, 1038 (2d Cir.1984)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Daugerdas
S.D.N.Y. · 2010 · confidence medium
If the Government seeks to invoke the exception as to communications concerning the negotiation of Field’s compensation agreement (an issue which the parties did not raise), it must do so with respect to a specific communication. “[T]he crime-fraud exception applies only where there is probable cause to believe that the particular communication with counsel or attorney work product was intended in some way to facilitate or to conceal the criminal activity.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995) (emphasis added).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Securities & Exchange Commission v. Ryan
N.D.N.Y. · 2010 · confidence medium
United States v. Int’l Bhd. of Teamsters, 119 F.3d 210 , 214 (2d Cir.1997) (citing In Re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum, Dated September 15, 1983, 731 F.2d 1032, 1036 (2d Cir.1984)); Madanes v. Madanes, 199 F.R.D. 135, 143 (S.D.N.Y. 2001) (citing, inter alia, In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 39-40 (2d Cir.1995) & quoting United States v. Kovel, 296 F.2d 918, 921 (2d Cir.1961)); see also 8 Wig-more, Evidence § 2292 (McNaughton rev. ed.1961).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Linde v. Arab Bank, PLC
E.D.N.Y · 2009 · confidence medium
In the Second Circuit, application of the crime-fraud exception requires a party to “demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof.” United States v. Richard Roe, Inc. (“Roe I”), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Schlesinger
2d Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
Schlesinger contends that the District Court erred in permitting two of Schlesinger’s attorneys to testify for the government regarding their roles in the creditor fraud scheme. “[Tjhere is a societal interest in enabling clients to get sound legal advice, [but] there is no such interest when the communications or advice are intended to further the commission of a crime or fraud.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Kerik
S.D.N.Y. · 2008 · confidence medium
In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Kyoei Fire & Marine Insurance v. M/V Maritime Antalya (2×)
S.D.N.Y. · 2007 · confidence medium
“The attorney-client privilege is “ ‘the oldest of the privileges for confidential communications known to the common law.’ ” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 39 (2d Cir.1995) (quoting Upjohn Co. v. United States, 449 U.S. 383, 389 , 101 S.Ct. 677 , 66 L.Ed.2d 584 (1981)).
examined Cited as authority (rule) In Re Green Grand Jury Proceedings (3×) also: Cited "see"
8th Cir. · 2007 · confidence medium
“Although there is a societal interest in enabling clients to get sound legal advice, there is no such interest when the communications or advice are intended to further the commission of a crime or fraud.” United States v. Richard Roe, Inc. (In re Richard Roe, Inc.), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995).
examined Cited as authority (rule) In Re: Green Grand Jury v. (3×) also: Cited "see"
8th Cir. · 2007 · confidence medium
“Although there is a societal interest in enabling clients to get sound legal advice, there is no such interest when the communications or advice are intended to further the commission of a crime or fraud.” United States v. Richard Roe, Inc. (In re Richard Roe, Inc.), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
examined Cited as authority (rule) Antidote International Films, Inc. v. Bloomsbury Publishing, PLC (3×) also: Cited "see"
S.D.N.Y. · 2007 · confidence medium
United States v. Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995) (emphasis supplied).
examined Cited as authority (rule) NXIVM Corp. v. O'Hara (5×)
N.D.N.Y. · 2007 · confidence medium
United States v. Int’l Bhd. of Teamsters, 119 F.3d 210 , 214 (2d Cir.1997) (citing In Re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum, 731 F.2d 1032, 1036 (2d Cir.1984)); Madanes v. Madanes, 199 F.R.D. 135,143 (S.D.N.Y.2001) (citing, inter alia, In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 39-40 (2d Cir.1995) & quoting United States v. Kovel, 296 F.2d 918, 921 (2d Cir.1961)); see also 8 Wigmore, Evidence § 2292 (McNaughton rev. ed.1961).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Trudeau v. New York State Consumer Protection Board
N.D.N.Y. · 2006 · confidence medium
United States v. Int’l Bhd. of Teamsters, 119 F.3d 210 , 214 (2d Cir.1997) (citing In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum, 731 F.2d 1032, 1036 (2d Cir.1984)); Madanes v. Madanes, 199 F.R.D. 135, 143 (S.D.N.Y.2001) (citing, inter alia, In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 39-40 (2d Cir.1995) & quoting United States v. Kovel, 296 F.2d 918, 921 (2d Cir.1961)); see also 8 Wigmore, Evidence § 2292.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Danisco A/S v. Novozymes A/S
S.D.N.Y. · 2006 · confidence medium
Id. at 71; In re Richard Roe, Inc. (Roe I), 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In re Sulfuric Acid Antitrust Litigation (2×)
N.D. Ill. · 2006 · confidence medium
Thus, the attorney-client privilege “does not extend to communications made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.” United States v. Zolin, 491 U.S. 554, 563 , 109 S.Ct. 2619 , 105 L.Ed.2d 469 (1989); Mattenson v. Baxter Healthcare Corp., 438 F.3d 763, 769 (7th Cir.2006); In re Richard Roe, 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2nd Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Charles R. Mattenson, Plaintiff-Appellee/cross-Appellant v. Baxter Healthcare Corporation, Defendant-Appellant/cross-Appellee
7th Cir. · 2006 · confidence medium
The privilege is indeed forfeited if the attorney is assisting his client to commit a crime or a fraud, In re Grand Jury Proceedings, 102 F.3d 748 , 750-52 (4th Cir.1996), but of course “a party seeking to invoke the crime-fraud exception must at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Mattenson, Charles v. Baxter Healthcare
7th Cir. · 2006 · confidence medium
The privilege is indeed forfeited if the attorney is assisting his client to commit a crime or a fraud, In re Grand Jury Proceedings, 102 F.3d 748 , 750-52 (4th Cir. 1996), but of course “a party seeking to invoke the crime-fraud exception must at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communica- tions were in furtherance thereof.” In re Richard Roe, Inc., 68 F.3d 38, 40 (2d Cir. 1995).
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In Re RICHARD ROE, INC., and John Doe, Inc. UNITED STATES of America, Petitioner-Appellee,
v.
RICHARD ROE, INC., Richard Roe, John Doe, Inc., and John Doe, Respondents-Appellants
669, Docket 95-6142.
Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.
Oct 13, 1995.
68 F.3d 38
1995 U.S. App. LEXIS 28829
David M. Zornow, New York City (Keith D. Krakaur, Lawrence S. Spiegel, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, New York City, of counsel) for Respondents-Appellants John Doe, Inc. and John Doe., Laura A. Brevetti, New York City (Robert A. Culp, of counsel) for Respondents-Appellants Richard Roe, Inc. and Richard Roe., Sean F. O’Shea, Assistant United States Attorney, Brooklyn, New York (Zachary W. Carter, United Stat- ;¡i Attorney, Eastern District of New York, David C. James, Lee G. Dunst, Assistant United States Attorneys, of counsel) for Petitioner-Appellee.
Winter, Altimari, McLaughlin.
Cited by 106 opinions  |  Published
WINTER, Circuit Judge:

This appeal concerns the scope of the so-called “crime-fraud” exception to the attorney-client privilege and attorney work product immunity (collectively “the privileges”). Appellant corporations John Doe, Inc. and Richard Roe, Inc. [1] asserted the privileges with respect to four grand jury subpoenas seeking documents and testimony from the corporations and from attorneys who jointly represented the firms at one time. The government subsequently moved to compel production, arguing that the matters sought fell within the crime-fraud exception to the privileges. Based on an ex parte affidavit submitted by the government, the district court concluded that there was a factual basis to believe that the exception applied and thereafter conducted an in camera inspection of the documents at issue. In a sealed opinion, the court found that

although many [of the documents] may enjoy the privilege claim, [the court was] in no position to say that one or more or all of them may not prove to be relevant evidence of activity in furtherance of contemplated or ongoing criminal or fraudulent conduct in this case. Furthermore, this Court does find that these documents, read collectively, have the real potential of being relevant evidence of activity in furtherance of a crime.

The district court thus held that the documents fell within the crime-fraud exception and issued two orders compelling the production of those documents. The court further ordered that unspecified witnesses, clearly including the corporations’ joint attorneys, give virtually unlimited testimony concerning: (i) the documents, (ii) an investigation performed by appellants’ counsel, and (iii) opinions rendered by counsel during the time frame of the subpoenaed documents. At a hearing on June 21, 1995, John Doe and Richard Roe, two officers of the corporations, refused to produce the subpoenaed documents and were held in contempt. This expedited appeal followed. Because the district court employed an incorrect test to determine whether the crime-fraud exception applies, we reverse and remand with directions.

The attorney-client privilege is “the oldest of the privileges for confidential communications known to the common law.” Upjohn Co. v. United States, 449 U.S. 383, 389, 101 S.Ct. 677, 682, 66 L.Ed.2d 584 (1981). The privilege applies so that

(1) [w]here legal advice of any kind is sought (2) from a professional legal adviser in his capacity as such, (3) the communications relating to that purpose, (4) made in confidence (5) by the client, (6) are at his instance permanently protected (7) from[*40] disclosure by himself or the legal adviser, (8) except the protection be waived....

United States v. Kovel, 296 F.2d 918, 921 (2d Cir.1961). The attorney-client privilege is designed to promote unfettered communication between attorneys and their clients so that the attorney may give fully informed legal advice. In re John Doe, Inc., 13 F.3d 633, 635-36 (2d Cir.1994) (“John Doe 1994. ”); In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum Dated September 15, 1983, 731 F.2d 1032, 1036 (2d Cir.1984) (“Marc Rich ”). The protection given to attorney work product serves a similar purpose: “to avoid chilling attorneys in developing materials to aid them in giving legal advice and in preparing a case for trial.” In re John Doe Corp., 675 F.2d 482, 492 (2d Cir.1982) (“John Doe 1982”). See generally Hickman v. Taylor, 329 U.S. 495, 67 S.Ct. 385, 91 L.Ed. 451 (1947).

Nevertheless, “[i]t is well-established that communications that otherwise would be protected by the attorney-client privilege or the attorney work product privilege are not protected if they relate to client communications in furtherance of contemplated or ongoing criminal or fraudulent conduct.” Marc Rich, 731 F.2d at 1038 (citations omitted). Although there is a societal interest in enabling clients to get sound legal advice, there is no such interest when the communications or advice are intended to further the commission of a crime or fraud. The crime-fraud exception thus insures that the secrecy protecting the attorney-client relationship does not extend to communications or work product “ ‘made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud’ or crime.” United States v. Zolin, 491 U.S. 554, 563, 109 S.Ct. 2619, 2626, 105 L.Ed.2d 469 (1989) (quoting O’Rourke v. Darbishire, [1920] A.C. 581, 604 (P.C.)).

We have recently reiterated that a party seeking to invoke the crime-fraud exception must at least demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime or fraud has been attempted or committed and that the communications were in furtherance thereof. John Doe 1994, 13 F.3d at 637. In the instant case, the district court, after considering the government’s ex parte submission and reviewing the subpoenaed documents in camera, premised its holding that the crime-fraud exception applied on a finding that “these documents, read collectively, have the real potential of being relevant evidence of activity in furtherance of a crime.” The government argues that this formulation reflects the proper legal standard. We disagree.

The “relevant evidence” test departs from the correct “in furtherance” test in two respects. First, the crime-fraud exception does not apply simply because privileged communications would provide an adversary with evidence of a crime or fraud. If it did, the privilege would be virtually worthless because a client could not freely give, or an attorney request, evidence that might support a finding of culpability. Instead, the exception applies only when the court determines that the client communication or attorney work product in question was itself in furtherance of the crime or fraud. See In re Grand Jury Subpoenas Duces Tecum, 798 F.2d 32, 34 (2d Cir.1986) (crime-fraud exception inapplicable where the documents themselves in combination with government proffer did not support a finding “that those communications were in furtherance of those crimes”). Second, the crime-fraud exception applies only where there is probable cause to believe that the particular communication with counsel or attorney work product was intended in some way to facilitate or to conceal the criminal activity. Id. at 34 (reversing compulsion order for failure “to show the requisite purposeful nexus”); Marc Rich, 731 F.2d at 1039 (the crime or fraud must “have been the objective of the client’s communication”); United States v. White, 887 F.2d 267, 271 (D.C.Cir.1989) (“[t]o subject the attorney-client communications to disclosure, they must actually have been made with an intent to further an unlawful act”). See also John William Gergaez, Attorney-Corporate Client Privilege 4-16 (1990) (“The client’s intention in communicating with counsel is controlling under the crime-fraud exception and, therefore, must be established as a part of the prima facie case.”). [2] Because a simple find[*41] ing of relevance does not demonstrate a criminal or fraudulent purpose, it does not trigger the exception.

There are loose ends remaining. For example, the precise factual basis of the alleged crime or fraud is unclear. Moreover, the government apparently claims that only one of the two corporate privilege-holders was involved in a crime or fraud. This raises the very difficult issue of whether the crime-fraud exception applies where one of two joint privilege-holders is innocent. However, because the district court used a “relevant evidence” test, rather than an “in furtherance” test, it did not need to reach this issue.

We therefore remand this matter to the district court for an examination of each document under the proper standard. The district court shall determine which, if any, of the documents or communications were in furtherance of a crime or fraud, as discussed above. If production is ordered, the court shall specify the factual basis for the crime or fraud that the documents or communications are deemed to have furthered, which of the parties asserting claims of privilege possessed a criminal or fraudulent purpose with respect to those documents or communications, and, if appropriate, whether the crime-fraud exception applies to an innocent joint privilege-holder.

In addition, should the district court require grand jury testimony on the ground that the documents or other communications fall within the crime-fraud exception, it shall specify the witness or witnesses required to give testimony, the scope of the examination permitted, and the basis, as described above with regard to the documents, for applying the crime-fraud exception. Where appropriate, the district court may examine these witnesses in camera before ordering testimony before a grand jury.

One further matter remains. Appellants ask that, in the event of remand, we direct that this ease be assigned to a different judge. This request is based largely on events subsequent to the appeal, and we decline to consider it until a recusal motion has been presented to, and ruled upon by, the district court. This proceeding can also occur on the remand.

Further proceedings should remain under seal. The remand will utilize the procedures set out in United States v. Jacobson, 15 F.3d 19, 22 (2d Cir.1994). The mandate shall issue forthwith. Jurisdiction will be automatically restored to this panel without a new notice of appeal if and when appellants inform the clerk of this court that the district court has ordered the disclosure of documents or presentation of testimony to the grand jury based upon the crime-fraud exception or has denied a recusal motion. Any subsequent briefing can be by letter on an expedited schedule to be set by the clerk.

Remanded for further proceedings in accord with this opinion.

1

. Because this appeal involves proceedings currently before a grand jury and the briefs and record on appeal are under seal, we employ pseudonyms.

2

. This court and others have generally enunciated the requirement of a criminal or fraudulent purpose in discussions of the attorney-client privilege and not the work product immunity. Where, as here, the attorney-client privilege and the work product immunity substantially overlap, we see no reason to apply a different standard for attorney work product. See In re Grand Jury Proceedings, 604 F.2d 798, 803 (3d Cir.1979).