UNITED STATES of Am., Plaintiff-Appellee, v. Edward William THOMPSON, Defendant-Appellant, 82 F.3d 849 (9th Cir. 1996). · Go Syfert
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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) United States v. Andrew Hackett
9th Cir. · 2024 · signal: see · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
we do not see how an error can be plain error when the supreme court and this court have not spoken on the subject, and the authority in other circuits is split.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) United States v. Sanders
10th Cir. · 2001 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the government's expert testified that upon holding the cylinder up to the light, 'anybody could notice' that someone had drilled holes in it.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) United States v. Humphrey (2×) also: Cited "see"
11th Cir. · 1999 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
because 16 split, the lack of controlling authority, and the fa at least some room for doubt about the outcome o cannot brand the court's failure to exclude the ev error
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Deborba
9th Cir. · 2026 · confidence medium
Combined, the stipulations leave no doubt that DeBorba knew “that what he possessed was a silencer,” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir. 1996), and foreclose an as-applied vagueness challenge.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Johns v. State
Del. · 2025 · confidence medium
It makes sense that Johnson framed the principle with federal courts in mind, since Johnson involved a federal, Fourth Amendment issue that was hotly debated at the time and that generated a split of authority in federal 59 Morales, 133 A.3d at 532 (quoting Whittle v. State, 77 A.3d 239, 248 (Del.2013)). 60 813 A.2d 161, 166 (Del. 2001); see also United States v. Flores-Juarez, 723 F. App'x 84, 89 (3d Cir. 2018) (“For an error to be ‘plain,’ it must be ‘clear or obvious rather than subject to reasonable dispute.’ The existence of divergent interpretations among the Courts of Appeals …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Tainewasher (2×)
9th Cir. · 2025 · confidence medium
“We must consider whether the available authorities provide a clear answer to the question before us.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Robert Benlevi
9th Cir. · 2025 · confidence medium
Error cannot be plain when, as here, “the Supreme Court and this court have not spoken on the subject, and the authority in other circuits is split.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996) (internal quotations and citation omitted).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Branden Tyler
11th Cir. · 2023 · confidence medium
United States v. Humphrey, 164 F.3d 585, 588 (11th Cir. 1999) (quoting United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir. 1996).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Samantha Nuss
9th Cir. · 2020 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir. 1996).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Mary Ayala
9th Cir. · 2020 · confidence medium
To be 3 19-30149 plain, an error must be “obvious.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Scott Sperling
9th Cir. · 2017 · confidence medium
There is no plain error where this court and the Supreme Court have not spoken on an issue and the authority in other circuits is split, United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996), much less where there was no contrary authority at the time of sentencing.
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Ronald White, Jr.
8th Cir. · 2017 · confidence medium
Rogers v. United States, 522 U.S. 252 , 258-59 & 259 n.7, 118 S.Ct. 673 , 139 L.Ed.2d 686 (1998) (plurality opinion); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Ronald White, Jr.
8th Cir. · 2016 · confidence medium
A plurality of the Supreme Court in Rogers v. United States, 522 U.S. at 258 & n. 7, 118 S.Ct. 673 , and at least one other circuit, United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir. 1996), have concluded that comparable instructions are sufficient to require a finding that the defendant knew the characteristics of the weapon that brought it within the statutory definition of “firearm.” On that view, Instruction No. 16 by itself satisfied the knowledge requirement of Staples, and there was no need for an additional instruction about whether White observed the characteristics of the fir…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Rafael Galvan
Idaho Ct. App. · 2014 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id, or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Dor
N.H. · 2013 · confidence medium
First, the Rodriguez court drew support for its broad construction of the term “equipped” on then-existing precedent giving a broad construction to other terms of 18 U.S.C. § 924 (c)(1), including the term “use.” Those precedents, however, were either overruled or at least significantly limited by the Supreme Court’s subsequent decision in Bailey v. United States, 516 U.S. 137 (1995), which gave “use” a narrow construction. 3 See United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 852-53 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Edward R. Hochrein, Jr.
Idaho Ct. App. · 2013 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id., or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Jesus Garza
5th Cir. · 2013 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
(Ret.), sitting by designation); see also United States v. Jackson, 477 F. App’x 377 (6th Cir. 2012); United States v. Williams, 467 F. App’x 59 (2d Cir. 2012). 37 Mendiola, 696 F.3d at 1042 ; Taylor, 679 F.3d at 1007 ; Grant, 664 F.3d at 279 ; cf. United States v. Salinas, 480 F.3d 750, 759 (5th Cir. 2007) (“Because this circuit’s law remains unsettled and the other federal circuits have reached divergent conclusions on this issue . . . , Salinas cannot satisfy the second prong of the plain error test—that the error be clear under existing law.” (emphasis added) (citing United Sta…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Jesus Garza (2×)
5th Cir. · 2013 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
Mendiola, 696 F.3d at 1042 ; Taylor, 679 F.3d at 1007 ; Grant, 664 F.3d at 279 ; cf. United States v. Salinas, 480 F.3d 750, 759 (5th Cir.2007) ("Because this circuit's law remains unsettled and the other federal circuits have reached divergent conclusions on this issue ..., Salinas cannot satisfy the second prong of the plain error test — that the error be clear under existing law.” (emphasis added) (citing United States v. Bennett, 469 F.3d 46, 50 (1st Cir.2006), and United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir. 1996))). .
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Kevin Williams
9th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Timothy Eugene Wright
Idaho Ct. App. · 2012 · confidence medium
In other words, the available authorities need to provide a clear answer to the question, United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996), and the appellant must show the *490 existing authorities have unequivocally resolved the issue in the appellant’s favor, State v. Hadden, 152 Idaho 371, 375 , 271 P.3d 1227, 1231 (Ct.App.2012).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Frank Mendoza
9th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855-56 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. James Scheidt
9th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
See United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 734, 113 S.Ct. 1770 , 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993) (no plain error unless error is clear under “current law”); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir.1996) (“Because of the circuit split, the lack of controlling authority, and the fact that there is at least some room for doubt about the outcome of this issue, we cannot brand the court’s failure to exclude the evidence ‘plain error.’ ”).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Guillermo G. Bedolla
Idaho Ct. App. · 2012 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id., or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question . . . .” United 3 States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Traci N. Hadden
Idaho Ct. App. · 2012 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id., or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question . . . .” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Hadden
Idaho Ct. App. · 2012 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id., or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question....” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Reid
Idaho Ct. App. · 2011 · confidence medium
It must be shown “the error is clear under the current law,” id., or as stated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Corbus
Idaho Ct. App. · 2011 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id., or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question.” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Filip Danney
Idaho Ct. App. · 2010 · confidence medium
Thus, the inquiry is whether “the error is clear under current law,” id., or, as articulated by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, whether the “available authorities provide a clear answer to the question . . . .” United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Edward Perez
9th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854-55 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Miranda-Lopez
9th Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir. 1996); see also United States v. De La Fuente, 353 F.3d 766, 769 (9th Cir. 2003) (“An error cannot be plain where there is no controlling authority on point and where the most closely analogous pre- cedent leads to conflicting results.”).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Miranda-Lopez (2×)
9th Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir.1996); see also United States v. De La Fuente, 353 F.3d 766, 769 (9th Cir.2003) ("An error cannot be plain where there is no controlling authority on point *1041 and where the most closely analogous precedent leads to conflicting results.").
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Salinas
5th Cir. · 2007 · confidence medium
See United States v. Bennett, 469 F.3d 46, 50 (1st Cir.2006) (“In light of conflicting case law, any error that might have been committed by the district court was not ‘obvious,’ and therefore not plain error.”); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir.1996) (“Because of the circuit split, the lack of controlling authority, and the fact that there is at least some room for doubt about the outcome of this issue, we cannot brand the court’s failure to exclude the evidence ‘plain error.’ ”) (internal footnote omitted).
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Patrick Thomas Strobehn, Jr. (4×)
9th Cir. · 2005 · confidence medium
“Just as a single word cannot be read in isolation, nor can a single provision of a statute.” Smith v. United States, 508 U.S. 223, 233 , 113 S.Ct. 2050 , 124 L.Ed.2d 138 (1993); see also Holloway, 526 U.S. at 7 , 119 S.Ct. 966 (“As we have repeatedly stated, the meaning of statutory language, plain or not, depends on context.” (internal quotation marks and citations omitted)); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 852-53 (9th Cir.1996) (same).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Strobehn (2×)
9th Cir. · 2005 · confidence medium
“Just as a single word cannot be read in isolation, nor can a single provision of a statute.” Smith v. United States, 508 U.S. 223, 233 (1993); see also Holloway, 526 U.S. at 7 (“As we have repeatedly stated, the meaning of statutory language, plain or not, depends on context.” (internal quotation marks and citations omitted)); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 852-53 (9th Cir. 1996) (same).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Brown
9th Cir. · 2005 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir.1996) (“knowledge can be inferred from circumstantial evidence, including any external indications signaling the nature of the weapon.”) (citation omitted). 2.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Barnes
Ohio · 2002 · confidence medium
Cf. United States v. Aguillard (C.A.11, 2000), 217 F.3d 1319, 1321 (holding that an error cannot be deemed plain if there is no controlling case law on point and the authority in other circuits is split); United States v. Thompson (C.A.9, 1996), 82 F.3d 849, 856 (same); United States v. Alli-Balogun (C.A.2, 1995), 72 F.3d 9, 12 (same); United States v. Williams (C.A.6, 1995), 53 F.3d 769, 772 (same).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Barnes
Ohio · 2002 · confidence medium
Cf. United States v. Aguillard (C.A.11, 2000), 217 F.3d 1319, 1321 (holding that an error cannot be deemed plain if there is no controlling case law on point and the authority in other circuits is split); United States v. Thompson (C.A.9, 1996), 82 F.3d 849, 856 (same); United States v. Alli-Balogun (C.A.2, 1995), 72 F.3d 9, 12 (same); United States v. Williams (C.A.6, 1995), 53 F.3d 769, 772 (same). {¶ 23} Despite the lack of an obvious error by the trial court in giving the instruction, the court of appeals corrected the defect by reversing Barnes’s conviction for felonious assault.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Johnson v. State
Del. · 2001 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 9th Cir., 82 F.3d 849, 854-55 (1996); United States v. Alli-Balogun, 2d Cir., 72 F.3d 9, 12 (1995). 14 .
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Willie C. Jones
7th Cir. · 2000 · confidence medium
Similarly, in United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir.1996), the Ninth Circuit held that the prosecution presented sufficient evidence to prove that the defendant knew that his unregistered "fake suppressor” — an aesthetic gun accessory designed to look like a silencer — had been modified to work as a real silencer in violation of the National Firearms Act.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Jones, Willie C.
7th Cir. · 2000 · confidence medium
Similarly, in United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir. 1996), the Ninth Circuit held that the prosecution presented sufficient evidence to prove that the defendant knew that his unregistered "fake suppressor"--an aesthetic gun accessory designed to look like a silencer--had been modified to work as a real silencer in violation of the National Firearms Act.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Timothy James Whitehead
9th Cir. · 2000 · confidence medium
See United States v. Plunk, 153 F.3d 1011, 1019 (9th Cir.), amended by 161 F.3d 1195 (9th Cir.1998), cert. denied, — U.S.-, 119 S.Ct. 1376 , 143 L.Ed.2d 535 (1999); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854-55 (9th Cir.1996); see also Fed.R.Evid. 103(d); Fed.R.Crim.P. 52(b).
cited Cited as authority (rule) UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. Mika GERGEN, Defendant-Appellant
9th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
Externally visible characteristics weigh heavily as to Gergen’s knowledge of the shotgun’s dangerous characteristics, see United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Humphrey
11th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
Without precedent directly resolving Humphrey’s kind of claim, we conclude the district court’s alleged error is not “obvious” or “clear under current law.” See United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 856 (9th Cir.1996) (“Because of the circuit split, the lack of controlling authority, and the fact that there is at least some room for doubt about the outcome of this issue, we cannot brand the court’s failure to exclude the evidence ‘plain error’ ”) (footnote omitted).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Moore (2×)
Idaho · 1998 · confidence medium
United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 854-55 (9th Cir.1996).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. William A. OPLINGER, Defendant-Appellant
9th Cir. · 1998 · confidence medium
Contrary to our assertions in United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996), and in United States v. Calise, 996 F.2d 1019, 1022 (9th Cir.1993), we have previously addressed the constitutionality of the use of pre-arrest, pre-Miranda silence as substantive evidence of guilt.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Coates v. United States (2×)
D.C. · 1998 · confidence medium
The Eleventh Circuit has ruled that under Jenkins , comment on pre-arrest silence is permissible.... [T]he Fifth Circuit [has] held that, where the defendant's silence is `neither induced by nor a response to any action by a governmental agent,' the Fifth Amendment is inapplicable." Id. at 855 (citations omitted). [13] We do not decide whether comment on a defendant's pre-arrest and pre- Miranda silence violates the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Luman v. Champion
10th Cir. · 1997 · confidence medium
The Supreme Court has not yet ruled on whether pre-Miranda or prearrest silence as substantive evidence is protected by the Fifth Amendment, see id. at 236 n.2 (reserving issue), and the circuits are split on this issue, see United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir. 1996) (collecting cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jim Luman v. Ron Champion, in His Official Capacity as Warden and the State of Oklahoma
10th Cir. · 1997 · confidence medium
The Supreme Court has not yet ruled on whether pre-Miranda or prearrest silence as substantive evidence is protected by the Fifth Amendment, see id. at 236 n. 2 (reserving issue), and the circuits are split on this issue, see United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855 (9th Cir.1996) (collecting cases). 11 We must assess counsel's performance by what he reasonably should have known, including the state of the law, at the time of trial.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Easter
Wash. · 1996 · confidence medium
Ed. 2d 88 (1994); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855-56 (9th Cir. 1996) (court determined admission of pre-arrest silence was not plain error in case where defendant raised the issue for first time on appeal, but expressly refused to express opinion about constitutionality of prosecutor’s actions; no plain error present where federal circuits were split on the issue).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Easter
Wash. · 1996 · confidence medium
United States v. Calise, 996 F.2d 1019, 1022 (9th Cir.1993), cert. denied, 510 U.S. 1078 , 114 S.Ct. 895 , 127 L.Ed.2d 88 (1994); United States v. Thompson, 82 F.3d 849, 855-56 (9th Cir.1996) (court determined admission of pre-arrest silence was not plain error in case where defendant raised the issue for first time on appeal, but expressly refused to express opinion about constitutionality of prosecutor's actions; no plain error present where federal circuits were split on the issue). [10] Easter does not claim error in the officer's testimony as to Easter's appearance, conduct, blood alcohol…
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44 Fed. R. Evid. Serv. 462, 96 Cal. Daily Op. Serv. 2950, 96 Daily Journal D.A.R. 4879 United States of America
v.
Edward William Thompson
94-30104.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
Apr 29, 1996.
82 F.3d 849
96 Cal. Daily Op. Serv. 2950
1996 U.S. App. LEXIS 9873
1996 WL 204095
Crandon Randell, Assistant United States Attorney, Anchorage, Alaska, for plaintiff-appellee., Kevin F. McCoy, Assistant Federal Public Defender, Anchorage, Alaska, for defendant-appellant.
Browning, Wright, Canby.
Cited by 82 opinions  |  Published
EUGENE A. WRIGHT, Circuit Judge:

Thompson shot a man who had come to his apartment as part of a scheme to buy drugs. He was convicted of several drug- and weapons-related crimes in connection with the shooting. Among other issues, we must determine the effect of Bailey v. United States, — U.S. —, 116 S.Ct. 501, 133 L.Ed.2d 472 (1995), on his conviction under 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(1).

BACKGROUND

At about 5:00 a.m. on July 21, 1992, four men arrived at Thompson’s apartment. One, Hollen, went inside and bought a half-gram of cocaine from Thompson. Meanwhile his companions, Pitcher, Perez and Wilson, waited outside. As Hollen was leaving, the other men pushed through the door. The evidence is conflicting as to what happened next. Pitcher said they were attempting to collect, by force, $100 that Thompson owed Wilson. Thompson told police the men threatened to murder him. Thompson’s girlfriend, Wendy Carpenter, testified that Pitcher threw her down and threatened to rape her.

The men scuffled, and Thompson and Wilson ended up in the bedroom out of sight of witnesses. Thompson shot and killed Wilson. Pitcher testified that the shots sounded muffled. Hollen and Pitcher fled as Carpenter called 911.

When police arrived, they questioned Thompson and Carpenter but did not arrest them. Thompson immediately showed police the gun he had used, a 9-millimeter Cobray pistol. No silencer was attached.. Thompson answered some police questions, but refused to answer others, saying he was scared and wanted to talk to a lawyer.

The police later legally searched the apartment and found a “fake suppressor” in a gun case in the closet. A fake suppressor is a barrel extender that is meant to look like a silencer but does not actually muffle sound. Expert inspection, however, revealed that this fake suppressor had been modified to act as an effective silencer. The police also found another pistol, marijuana, scales with traces of cocaine and other drug-related paraphernalia.

Thompson was convicted of possession of an unregistered silencer (18-month sentence); possession with intent to distribute marijuana and cocaine (18 months for each count); use of a firearm during a drug trafficking crime (5-year mandatory sentence); and use of a firearm equipped with a silencer during a drug trafficking crime (30-year mandatory sentence). [1]

DISCUSSION

I. Jury Instructions

Thompson complains of several instructional errors. We review de novo whether a jury instruction misstates the elements of a crime. United States v. Vaandering, 50 F.3d 696, 702 (9th Cir.1995).

A. Use of a Firearm Equipped with a Silencer

Thompson was convicted of two counts of violating 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1), one for using the Cobray pistol during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime, and one for using a firearm equipped with a silencer during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime. He argues that the instructions improperly allowed the jury to find him guilty[*852] of the latter crime without finding that he actively employed a firearm equipped with a silencer. We agree.

The conviction was predicated on these facts. When the police arrived at Thompson’s apartment after the shooting, he immediately pointed out that the pistol he had fired was on the table near the door. The silencer was nowhere in sight. Police later discovered it, in a locked gun case, in the hall closet. A forensics expert tested the silencer but could not determine whether it was affixed to the pistol when Thompson fired it. One witness testified that the shots had sounded muffled. The government argued in closing that it didn’t matter whether Thompson actually used the silencer.

The court instructed the jury that the silencer was a “firearm” for the purposes of section 924(c)(1). Then it instructed that:

[t]he defendant is considered to have used a firearm if its presence in his possession in any manner facilitated the carrying out of the drug trafficking crime. A firearm may facilitate or have a role in a drug trafficking crime by emboldening the defendant who had an opportunity or ability to display or discharge the weapon to protect himself or intimidate others, whether or not such display or discharge in fact occurs....

Following this instruction, the jury could have found that Thompson “used” the silencer even if it never left the closet.

The Supreme Court recently disapproved this result in Bailey v. United States, — U.S. —, —, 116 S.Ct. 501, 505, 133 L.Ed.2d 472 (1995). It held that “§ 924(c)(1) requires evidence sufficient to show an active employment of the firearm by the defendant, a use that makes the firearm an operative factor in relation to the predicate offense.” Id. (emphasis in original). The Court specifically rejected the notion that mere emboldening or protection constitutes use. Thompson’s conviction cannot stand. [2]

At oral argument the government advanced the contention that, even after Bailey, the silencer need not have been affixed to the pistol at the time of the shooting in order for the firearm to be “equipped with ” a silencer. [3] The government concludes that having the silencer readily available was sufficient for conviction, so that no harm resulted from the misdefinition of “use” in the instructions.

The government cites United States v. Rodriguez, 841 F.Supp. 79 (E.D.N.Y.1994), aff'd, 53 F.3d 545 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 116 S.Ct. 243, 133 L.Ed.2d 170 (1995), a pre-Bailey case, to support its argument. In Rodriguez, the court ruled that a firearm is “equipped with” a silencer if the silencer is “readily available for joint use”; actual attachment is not required. Id. at 83. Thus, the court held, storage of pistols with compatible silencers near a cache of drugs constituted use of a firearm equipped with a silencer during or in relation to a drug trafficking crime.

Rodriguez relied in large part on the parity between its definition of “equipped” and the then-prevailing definition of “use.” Id. at 84-85 (“equipped” should be construed consistently with “use”). [4] We do likewise, because we must “consider not only the bare meaning of the word but also its placement and purpose in the statutory scheme. ‘The meaning of statutory lan[*853] guage, plain or not, depends on context.’” Bailey, — U.S. at —, 116 S.Ct. at 506 (quoting Brown v. Gardner, — U.S. —, —, 115 S.Ct. 552, 555, 130 L.Ed.2d 462 (1994)).

Bailey defines “use” to mean “operative factor.” The broad definition of “equipped with” that the government urges would be inconsistent with the narrower congressional intent the Bailey court discerned: Congress could not have intended to impose a five-year penalty only if a drug trafficker actively employed a firearm, but mandate a 30-year sentence if that same defendant happened to own a compatible silencer that played no role in the predicate crime.

Nor can such a broad definition be squared with the statutory requirement that the firearm be equipped with a silencer “during and in relation to” a predicate crime. A pistol may be equipped with a silencer in a general sense because its owner also possesses a compatible silencer. But that person is not using a firearm equipped with a silencer “during and in relation to” a drug trafficking crime if at the time of the crime, the silencer is locked away in a closet.

We hold that, at a minimum, the silencer must have played some role in the predicate drug trafficking crime in order for Thompson to be subjected to the 30-year penalty for using a firearm equipped with a silencer. Under the facts as they were presented in this case, only actual attachment would satisfy this requirement. [5]

B. Knowledge that the Suppressor Was a Silencer

Thompson contends that we should reverse his conviction for possessing an unregistered silencer in violation of the National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. § 5861(d), because the jury instructions misstated the mens rea requirement. He argues that the government should have been required to prove that he knew that the fake suppressor had been altered to act as a silencer. [6]

The National Firearms Act prohibits possession of certain types of firearms unless those weapons have been registered in the national firearms registration record. 26 U.S.C. § 5841, 5861(d). All silencers fall within the purview of the Act. 26 U.S.C. § 5845. In Staples v. United States, — U.S. —, —, 114 S.Ct. 1793, 1804, 128 L.Ed.2d 608 (1994), decided nine months after trial, the Court held that the mens rea for possession of an unregistered firearm is knowledge of “the features of [the firearm] that brought it within the scope of the Act.” We must determine whether the jury instructions adequately conveyed the mens rea Staples prescribes, i.e., that Thompson knew the fake suppressor had been modified to act as a silencer.

The jury was instructed that to find Thompson guilty of possession of an unregistered firearm, it must find that “the defendant knowingly possessed a silencer” that was not registered to him in the national firearms registration record. The court defined “knowingly” to mean that “the defendant realized what he was doing and did not act through mistake, accident, or other innocent reason.”

There are two ways to read this instruction: “knowingly” could modify only “possessed,” meaning that Thompson knew he possessed an object that happened to be a silencer. Alternatively, “knowingly” could modify the entire phrase, meaning that Thompson knew the object he possessed was a silencer. See Staples, — U.S. at —, 114 S.Ct. at 1805 (Ginsburg, J., concurring) (discussing the various “level[s] of knowledge” that the term “knowingly possessed” might imply).

[*854] In this context, the more natural reading of the instruction is that Thompson had to know that what he possessed was a silencer. See Staples, — U.S. at —, 114 S.Ct. at 1806 (Ginsburg, J., concurring) (noting that “knowingly possessed a machine gun” properly describes the mens rea requirement for section 5861). Because all silencers must be registered, the term “silencer” encompasses the characteristics that brought the firearm “within the scope of the Act.” Staples, — U.S. at —, 114 S.Ct. at 1804. There was no error.

II. Sufficiency of the Evidence of Knowledge of the Characteristics of the Silencer

Thompson also contends that his conviction for possession of an unregistered silencer must be reversed because there was insufficient evidence that he knew the fake suppressor was a “firearm” within the meaning of the Act.

In reviewing a challenge to the sufficiency of the evidence, we must affirm if, after viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the government, we find that any rational trier of fact could have found the essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Jackson v. Virginia, 443 U.S. 307, 319, 99 S.Ct. 2781, 2789, 61 L.Ed.2d 560 (1979).

The silencer had originally been manufactured as a fake suppressor or dummy silencer. Its purpose in its original state was to extend the barrel of the gun, and to intimidate others by giving the appearance of a silencer. Thompson bought the suppressor used; it had two prior owners.

The government’s expert testified that upon holding the cylinder up to the light, “anybody could notice” that someone had drilled holes in it. These holes, another expert testified, “dissipate[ed] the energy of the muzzle blast,” transforming the fake suppressor into a silencer. The silencer was a “good fit” for the pistol and performed effectively when tested. The government pointed out that a silencer would have been a useful tool for a drug dealer doing business in a populated area. And there was testimony that Thompson may have used the suppressor during the shooting.

This evidence does not prove directly that Thompson knew his fake suppressor was a silencer, but “knowledge can be inferred from circumstantial evidence, including any external indications signaling the nature of the weapon.” Staples, — U.S. at — n. 11, 114 S.Ct. at 1802 n. 11. We find that a rational trier of fact could have inferred Thompson’s knowledge from the evidence presented.

III. Pre-Arrest Silence

When police arrived at Thompson’s apartment after the shooting, they questioned him at length. He answered most questions, but refused to answer a few. During direct examination, the detective who interviewed Thompson testified that in response to three questions, Thompson told him he was “scared and wanted to talk to a lawyer.” The detective also testified that he was “kind of at a loss at that response” because “[f]rom my observations at the apartment, I assumed that he had possibly shot somebody that broke into his apartment, and normally under those circumstances, people I talk with are more than eager to tell me what happened.” The prosecutor highlighted this testimony, making it the final note of his closing argument. [7]

Thompson argues that admission of this testimony violated his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Because he did not properly object to this line of[*855] questioning, we review for plain error. Fed. R.Crim.P. 52(b). In United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 734, 113 S.Ct. 1770, 1777, 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993), the Court held that one of the “limitation[s] on appellate authority under Rule 52(b) is that the error be ‘plain.’ ‘Plain’ is synonymous with ‘clear’ or, equivalently, ‘obvious.’” The Court clarified this test: “At a minimum, the Court of Appeals cannot correct an error pursuant to Rule 52(b) unless the error is clear under current law.” Id. (emphasis added).

The Second Circuit has recently remarked, “we do not see how an error can be plain error when the Supreme Court and this court have not spoken on the subject, and the authority in other circuits is split.” United States v. Alli-Balogun, 72 F.3d 9, 12 (2d Cir.1995). That eommonsense conclusion is equally applicable here. We must consider whether the available authorities provide a clear answer to the question before us.

There is no controlling Supreme Court precedent. The most closely analogous cases lead to conflicting conclusions. In Griffin v. California, 380 U.S. 609, 85 S.Ct. 1229, 14 L.Ed.2d 106 (1965), the Court held that the Fifth Amendment forbids both comment by the prosecution on the accused’s failure to testify at trial and the use of that silence as evidence of guilt. But Griffin does not necessarily apply in a pre-arrest, non-coercive situation. In Jenkins v. Anderson, 447 U.S. 231, 238, 100 S.Ct. 2124, 2129, 65 L.Ed.2d 86 (1980), the Court ruled that a prosecutor may use a defendant’s pre-arrest silence to impeach him. The Court grounded its decision on the defendant’s tactical decision to testify: once he has waived his right to remain silent, “the function of courts of justice to ascertain the truth become relevant, and prevail in the balance of considerations determining the scope and limits of the privilege against self-incrimination.” Id. (quotation omitted). Because Thompson did not waive.his privilege by testifying, Jenkins provides no guidance here.

Our court has not addressed the issue of use of pre-arrest, pre-Miranda silence as substantive evidence of guilt. See United States v. Calise, 996 F.2d 1019, 1022 (9th Cir.1993) (not reaching the issue because court gave curative instruction telling jury not to infer guilt from pre-arrest silence), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 114 S.Ct. 895, 127 L.Ed.2d 88 (1994).

Other circuits are split. The First, Seventh and Tenth Circuits have held that pre-arrest silence comes within the purview of Griffin’s proscription of comment on a defendant’s privilege against self-incrimination. See United States v. Burson, 952 F.2d 1196, 1200-01 (10th Cir.1991), cert. denied, 503 U.S. 997, 112 S.Ct. 1702, 118 L.Ed.2d 411 (1992); Coppola v. Powell, 878 F.2d 1562, 1567-68 (1st Cir.), cert. denied, 493 U.S. 969, 110 S.Ct. 418, 107 L.Ed.2d 383 (1989); United States ex rel. Savory v. Lane, 832 F.2d 1011, 1018 (7th Cir.1987). [8] The Seventh Circuit subsequently held, however, that comment is permitted when, as with Thompson, the defendants selectively respond to an investigator’s questions. United States v. Davenport, 929 F.2d 1169, 1174-75 (7th Cir.1991) (once defendants in a voluntary, non-custodial interview gave an officer their version of events, they “forfeited their privilege not to answer questions concerning that version”), cert. denied, 502 U.S. 1031, 112 S.Ct. 871, 116 L.Ed.2d 776 (1992).

The Eleventh Circuit has ruled that under Jenkins, comment on pre-arrest silence is permissible. United States v. Rivera, 944 F.2d 1563, 1568 (11th Cir.1991). Most recently, the Fifth Circuit held that, where the defendant’s silence is “neither induced by nor a response to any action by a governmental agent,” the Fifth Amendment is inapplicable. United States v. Zanabria, 74 F.3d 590, 593 (5th Cir.1996) (“The fifth amendment protects against compelled self-incrimination but does not ... preclude ... prosecutorial comment about every communication or lack thereof by the defendant which may give rise to an incriminating inference.”). [9]

[*856] Under Olano we “cannot” correct an error unless it is clear under current law. 507 U.S. at 734, 113 S.Ct. at 1777. Because of the circuit split, [10] the lack of controlling authority, and the fact that there is at least some room for doubt about the outcome of this issue, we cannot brand the court’s failure to exclude the evidence “plain error.” We do not intend by this result to express any opinion about the constitutionality of the prosecutor’s actions.

IV. Rebuttal Testimony

Before a grand jury, Carpenter, Thompson’s girlfriend, testified that she had seen guns and cocaine in Thompson’s apartment before the shooting. At trial, she denied seeing guns or drugs there. She explained that she lied to the grand jury because Keller, the police officer investigating the crime, showed her photographs of women and a list of women’s names and told her Thompson had had affairs with these women. This accusation made her “want to hurt [Thompson] back.”

Keller testified as a rebuttal witness. He explained that he had told the 17-year-old Carpenter about Thompson’s affairs because he wanted to see her go back home and wanted to break up their relationship. Thompson argues that this rebuttal evidence was more prejudicial than probative and should have been excluded under Fed. R.Evid. 402,403 and 404(b).

This evidence was not probative of any element of the government’s case: the detective’s desire to remove a young woman from what he perceived to be a bad situation is irrelevant.

The error did not, however, affect any count of conviction. Keller’s testimony only corroborated what the jury had already heard from Carpenter. And Thompson fails to demonstrate that the verdict on any count was affected by Keller’s estimation of Thompson’s character.

Although we find the error to be harmless, the court on remand should exclude the testimony unless the government is able to make some showing that it is relevant and does not offend Rule 403.

CONCLUSION

We reverse and remand for retrial Thompson’s conviction under 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1) for use of a firearm equipped with a silencer. We affirm his convictions for possession of an unregistered firearm, for possession of marijuana and cocaine with intent to distribute, and for use of a firearm in connection with a drug trafficking crime.

AFFIRMED in part; REVERSED in part and REMANDED.

1

. The state did not charge Thompson with homicide or any other crime related to Wilson’s death.

2

. Thompson has not asked us to reverse under Bailey his conviction for use of the Cobray pistol during and in relation to the drug trafficking crime, and we therefore will not review it. We note that there is no question that by shooting Wilson he "actively employed” the pistol.

3

. The jury instructions entirely omitted the phrase "equipped with.” Thus, even if the government were correct in its definition of that phrase, we would reverse. We nonetheless address the issue because it will recur on remand.

4

.The court noted that "use,” as it was understood before Bailey, extended to circumstances in which the firearm was not active use but was "quickly and easily available for use” during a drug transaction. Id. at 84 (quotation omitted). It also remarked, "Had Congress, in enacting § 924(c)(1), intended by the word 'use' to proscribe only the actual firing or brandishing of a firearm, defendant's contention that one could not, therefore, use a firearm ‘equipped’ with a silencer unless the silencer was actually attached to the gun brandished or fired might have some appeal.” Id. at 85.

5

. We leave open the question whether there are any circumstances short of actual attachment that might satisfy the requirement that a firearm be "equipped with” a silencer. We express no opinion whether, for example, a drug trafficker who transacts business with a pistol and a compatible but detached silencer on display is using a firearm equipped with a firearm silencer. Cf. Bailey, — U.S. at —, 116 S.Ct. at 508 ("silent but obvious and forceful presence of a gun on a table can be a ‘use’ ”).

6

. Thompson argues that the jury instructions for his conviction for use of a firearm equipped with a silencer, 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1), were similarly flawed. We need not reach this issue because we reverse that conviction under Bailey.

7

. The last words of the prosecutor’s closing argument were:

I am not going to make a big deal out of Mr. Thompson's response when the police come [sic] to the door following this shooting. I’m not going to make a big deal about it at all. But you got to admit, it's a litde strange under the circumstance, have the police come in there, and the first thing they’re going to say is, "What happened?” "I want a lawyer.” I mean, that's strange. That’s not the way people in circumstances that are legitimate are going to react. They would probably be inclined to tell the cop what happened; "This guy broke into my apartment.” None of that happened. But then again, this is Mr. Thompson.
8

. In United States v. Caro, 637 F.2d 869, 876 (2d Cir.1981), the court assumed without deciding that pre-arrest silence could not be used in the prosecution's case in chief, and then found the assumed error to he harmless.

9

. The Fifth Circuit’s concern about the lack of compulsion in the pre-arrest situation echoes Justice Stevens’ concurrence in Jenkins, in which he said, "[w]hen a citizen is under no official compulsion whatever, either to speak or to re[*856] main silent, I see no reason why his voluntary decision to do one or the other should raise any issue under the Fifth Amendment.” 447 U.S. at 243-44, 100 S.Ct. at 2132.

10

. Although the Fifth Circuit decision came out after the trial, the fact that the court came to a different conclusion lends credence to the argument that the answer to this question is not "obvious.”