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“the sixth amendment rights of a talkative inmate are not violated when a jailmate acts in an entrepreneurial way to seek information of potential value, without having been deputized by the government to question that defendant.”
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examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Manns, Denard (3×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
Tex. Crim. App. · 2003 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
informant as to an unrelated case
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) United States v. Johnson (8×) also: Cited as authority (rule), Cited "see"
N.D. Iowa · 2002 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the sixth amendment rights of a talkative inmate are not violated when a jailmate acts in an entrepreneurial way to seek information of potential value, without having been deputized by the government to question that defendant.
examined Cited as authority (quoted) United States v. Heatley (4×) also: Cited as authority (rule), Cited "see"
S.D.N.Y. · 1998 · signal: see · quote attribution · 2 verbatim quotes · confidence high
an informant becomes a government agent ... only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Sivik, Cory v. State of Florida
S.D. Fla. · 2024 · confidence medium
May 29, 2012) (“It is settled that a ‘coercive atmosphere’ is lacking when an inmate speaks to someone he considers a friend or loved one.” (citing United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir. 1997))), report and recommendation adopted, 2012 WL 3648142 (W.D.N.Y.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Richard Michael Arrington
Wis. · 2022 · confidence medium
Undoubtedly, "most inmates who provide information to law enforcement officials harbor the hope that their service will not go unrewarded[;]" however, just because "inmates realize there is a market for information about crime does not make each inmate who enters the market a government agent." Id. "[T]here is no agency absent the government's agreement to reward the informant for his services." Id. ¶53 Furthermore, federal courts have also concluded that agency status is particularized to specific defendants. "[A]n informant becomes a government agent for purposes of [Massiah] only when the …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Ashby
Conn. · 2021 · confidence medium
Ed. 2d 596 (2019); Creel v. Johnson, supra, 162 F.3d 394 (‘‘[i]n the absence of a quid pro quo between [the informant] and [the police], and in the absence of instruction or control by the [s]tate, we hold that [the informant] was not a government agent’’); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.) (‘‘[o]ther circuits agree that an infor- mant becomes a government agent . . . only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get infor- mation about the particular defendant’’), cert. denied, 522 U.S. 976 , 118 S. Ct. 433 , 139 L.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State v. Ashby (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
Conn. · 2020 · confidence medium
Ed. 2d 596 (2019); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.) (‘‘review[ing] the [D]istrict [C]ourt’s conclusions as to constitutional violations de novo, and its findings of fact for clear error’’), cert. denied, 522 U.S. 976 , 118 S. Ct. 433 , 139 L.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State of Tennessee v. Howard Hawk Willis
Tenn. · 2016 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. McFadden, 187 F. App‘x 290, 294 (4th Cir. 2006) (holding that for agency, government must have directed informant to elicit incriminating statements from defendant); United States v. LaBare, 191 F.3d 60, 65-66 (1st Cir. 1999) (―Where the government asks a jail mate to report incriminating statements by anyone but has in no way focused the jail mate‘s attention on an individual defendant, it is a stretch to describe the jail mate‘s inquiries of the defendant as government interrogation.‖); Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994, 999 (8th Cir. 1999) (holding t…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State of Tennessee v. Howard Hawk Willis (2×)
Tenn. · 2016 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. McFadden, 187 F. App‘x 290, 294 (4th Cir. 2006) (holding that for agency, government must have directed informant to elicit incriminating statements from defendant); United States v. LaBare, 191 F.3d 60, 65-66 (1st Cir. 1999) (―Where the government asks a jail mate to report incriminating statements by anyone but has in no way focused the jail mate‘s attention on an individual defendant, it is a stretch to describe the jail mate‘s inquiries of the defendant as government interrogation.‖); Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994, 999 (8th -53- Cir. 1999) (hold…
examined Cited as authority (rule) Amended September 20, 2016 State of Iowa v. Justin Alexander Marshall (4×) also: Cited "see"
Iowa · 2016 · confidence medium
On the question of agency, the State—citing Moore and other cases—asserts that there must be instructions to seek information about a “particular defendant.” Moore, 178 F.3d at 999 (quoting United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir. 1997)).
examined Cited as authority (rule) State of Iowa v. Justin Alexander Marshall (8×) also: Cited "see"
Iowa · 2016 · confidence medium
On the question of agency, the State — citing Moore and other' cases — asserts that there must be instructions to seek information about a “particular defendant.” Moore, 178 F.3d at 999 (quoting United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State of Tennessee v. Antoneo Williams
Tenn. Crim. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
As this court recently noted, Some courts have applied a bright-line rule that “[a]n informant becomes a government agent . . . only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997); see Ayers [v. Hudson], 623 F.3d [301,] 310–11 [6th Cir. 2010] (citing cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State of Iowa v. Justin Alexander Marshall
Iowa Ct. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
The court explained: “[A]n informant becomes a government agent for purposes of [Massiah] only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir. 1997) (collecting cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) State of Tennessee v. Howard Hawk Willis
Tenn. Crim. App. · 2015 · confidence medium
Some courts have applied a bright-line rule that “[a]n informant becomes a government agent . . . only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir. 1997); see Ayers, 623 F.3d at 310 -11 (citing cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Watson v. United States (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
D.C. · 2013 · confidence medium
See, e.g., Watson I, 940 A.2d at 185 (”[T]he Sixth Amendment is violated when government agents expressly or implicitly use an informant as their agent to take some deliberate action, beyond mere passive listening, to elicit incriminating statements from a person whose right to counsel has attached.”); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.1997) ("The Sixth Amendment bars the government from planting an agent to elicit jailhouse admissions from an indicted defendant who has asserted his right to counsel."). .
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Meregildo
S.D.N.Y. · 2013 · confidence medium
United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Basciano
E.D.N.Y · 2011 · confidence medium
“The primary concern of the government informant rule is to avoid secret interrogation by investigatory techniques that are the equivalent of direct police interrogation.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997) (internal citation and quotation marks omitted).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ayers v. Hudson
6th Cir. · 2010 · confidence medium
Some of these circuits employ a bright line rule, deciding that “[a]n informant becomes a government agent ... only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997); see also Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994, 999 (8th Cir.1999); United States v. LaBare, 191 F.3d 60, 65 (1st Cir.1999); United States v. Watson, 894 F.2d 1345 , 1347-48 *311 (D.C.Cir.1990); Brooks v. Kincheloe, 848 F.2d 940, 945 (9th Cir.1988).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Wilson
2d Cir. · 2010 · confidence medium
United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d 15 Cir. 1997).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Whitten
2d Cir. · 2010 · confidence medium
United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Hernandez v. State
Fla. Dist. Ct. App. · 2008 · confidence medium
Second Issue: Informant as “Agent for the State” The evidence demonstrated that Morales merely reported what he heard from a “talkative inmate,” Hernandez, “without having been deputized by the government to question that defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Chahia
8th Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
However, “[a]n informant becomes a government agent for purposes of [Massiah ] only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994, 999 (8th Cir.1999) (quoting United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Pike
2d Cir. · 2008 · confidence medium
Ui i no violation oí Pattison s right to counsel, 0 TT , t>*l t -na -mm oao See United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Lentz
4th Cir. · 2008 · signal: cf. · confidence medium
See United States v. Love, 134 F.3d 595, 604 (4th Cir.1998); cf. United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997) (rejecting argument that plea agreement, which required informant to provide the government with any information in his possession relating to criminal activity, made him a “roving” government agent for other cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Watson v. United States
D.C. · 2008 · confidence medium
Other courts have considered the following as relevant evidence of the government’s intent: whether the government focused the informant’s attention on the defendant, see United States v. LaBare, 191 F.3d 60, 65 (1st Cir.1999); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997); Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994, 999 (8th Cir.1999); the requirements of the agreement, see Birbal, supra, 113 F.3d at 346 ; awareness of a person’s propensity to inform and intentionally placing such a person in proximity to the defendant, see United States v. Brink, 39 F.3d 419, 424 (3d Cir.1994); an…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Pannell
E.D.N.Y · 2007 · confidence medium
The Second Circuit has held that an informant becomes a government agent “only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997).
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Lentz (3×) also: Cited "see", Cited "see, e.g."
E.D. Va. · 2005 · confidence medium
See id. (holding that defendant who had previously cooperated in a separate case was not a government agent where there was no evidence his cooperation extended to the matter under investigation); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997) (same).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rivera v. Conway
S.D.N.Y. · 2004 · confidence medium
Although, as the Second Circuit, has held, “[t]he Sixth Amendment bars the government from planting an agent to elicit jailhouse admissions from an indicted' defendant who has asserted his right to counsel,” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.1997), the Sixth Amendment right to counsel “is offense specific.” Hurd v. Stinson, No: 99 Civ. 2426(LBS), 2000 WL 567014 , at *12 n. 12 (S.D.N.Y.
examined Cited as authority (rule) Manns v. State (3×)
Tex. Crim. App. · 2003 · confidence medium
United States v. LaBare, 191 F.3d 60, 63-66 (1st Cir.1999); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345-346 (2nd Cir.), cert. denied sub. nom., Wright v. United States, 522 U.S. 903 , 118 S.Ct. 256 , 139 L.Ed.2d 184 (1997); United States v. Van Scoy, 654 F.2d 257, 259-261 (3rd Cir.), cert. denied, 454 U.S. 1126 , 102 S.Ct. 977 , 71 L.Ed.2d 114 (1981); Thomas v. Cox, 708 F.2d 132, 133-137 (4th Cir.), cert. denied, 464 U.S. 918 , 104 S.Ct. 284 , 78 L.Ed.2d 262 (1983); Creel v. Johnson, 162 F.3d 385, 392-394 (5th Cir.1998), cert. denied, 526 U.S. 1148 , 119 S.Ct. 2027 , 143 L.Ed.2d 1038 (1999); Un…
examined Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Angela Jane Johnson (3×)
8th Cir. · 2003 · confidence medium
As to whether Hartwig was a government agent, we stated: “[A]n informant becomes a government agent for purposes of [Massiah ] only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997) (collecting cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Angela Johnson (2×)
8th Cir. · 2003 · confidence medium
As to whether Hartwig was a government agent, we stated: “[A]n informant becomes a government agent for purposes of [Massiah] only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir. 1997) (collecting cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ferrer v. Greiner
2d Cir. · 2002 · confidence medium
Moreover, this Court adheres to the well-established notion that “an informant becomes a government agent for purposes of Kuhlmann only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.” United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997) (emphasis added).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Johnson
N.D. Iowa · 2001 · confidence medium
More specifically, as to the showing that the informant was a government agent, the court explained that “ ‘[a]n informant becomes a government agent for purposes of [Massiah] only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant.’ ” Id. (quoting United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 522 U.S. 976 , 118 S.Ct. 433 , 139 L.Ed.2d 333 (1997), which collected cases).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Richard N. Labare
1st Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
NOTES: 1 Massiah, 377 U.S. at 206 ; see also Patterson v. Illinois, 487 U.S. 285 (1988); Michigan v. Jackson, 475 U.S. 625 (1986); Maine v. Moulton, 474 U.S. 159 (1985); United States v. Henry, 447 U.S. 264 (1980). 2 Compare Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994 (8th Cir. 1999) (general agency insufficient), and United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.) (same), cert. denied, 118 S.Ct. 433 (1997), with United States v. Brink, 39 F.3d 419, 423-24 (3d Cir. 1994) (appearing to consider multiple factors), and Creel v. Johnson, 162 F.3d 385, 393-94 (5th Cir. 1998) (same), cert. denied, 119…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Ira Jerome Moore
8th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
The stated purpose of the meeting was to assist the government “in determining what, if any, consideration should be afforded [Hartwig] in exchange for [his] agreement to provide information or other cooperation ‘on the record’ so to speak” (Appellant’s App. at 8.) Hartwig testified that at the time he signed the agreement he considered himself a government informant (Tr. 328), but only as to information he had at that time (Tr. 388.) He also stated that he thought that he might benefit from providing information about any criminal activity, not just drug-related activity, but that h…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) No. 98-3578
8th Cir. · 1999 · confidence medium
The stated purpose of the meeting was to assist the government "in determining what, if any, consideration should be afforded [Hartwig] in exchange for [his] agreement to provide information or other cooperation 'on the record' so to speak" (Appellant's App. at 8.) Hartwig testified that at the time he signed the agreement he considered himself a government informant (Tr. 328), but only as to information he had at that time (Tr. 388.) He also stated that he thought that he might benefit from providing information about any criminal activity, not just drug-related activity, but that he did not …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Heatley
S.D.N.Y. · 1998 · confidence medium
See Patterson v. Illinois, 487 U.S. 285, 290 , 108 S.Ct. 2389, 2393 , 101 L.Ed.2d 261 (1988); Brewer v. Williams, 430 U.S. 387, 398 , 97 S.Ct. 1232, 1239 , 51 L.Ed.2d 424 (1977); United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 118 S.Ct. 433 , 139 L.Ed.2d 333 (1997).
discussed Cited "see" People v. Ozkaynak (2×)
N.Y. App. Div. · 2023 · signal: see · confidence high
Moreover, "[m]ore than a cooperation agreement is required to make an informant a government agent with regard to a particular defendant " ( United States v Whitten , 610 F3d 168, 193 [2d Cir 2010] [emphasis added]; see United States v Birbal , 113 F3d 342, 346 [2d Cir 1997], cert denied 522 US 976 [1997]).
discussed Cited "see" People v. Ozkaynak (2×)
N.Y. App. Div. · 2023 · signal: see · confidence high
Moreover, "[m]ore than a cooperation agreement is required to make an informant a government agent with regard to a particular defendant " ( United States v Whitten , 610 F3d 168, 193 [2d Cir 2010] [emphasis added]; see United States v Birbal , 113 F3d 342, 346 [2d Cir 1997], cert denied 522 US 976 [1997]).
discussed Cited "see" United States v. Siri-Reynoso
2d Cir. · 2020 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir. 1997) (explaining that 4 the “primary concern” under Massiah “is to avoid secret interrogation by investigatory techniques that are the equivalent of direct police interrogation,” and that “[t]he Sixth Amendment rights of a talkative inmate are not violated when a jailmate acts in an entrepreneurial way to seek information of potential value, without having been deputized by the government to question that defendant” (internal quotation marks and citation omitted)).
cited Cited "see" United States v. Desena
2d Cir. · 2002 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.1997).
cited Cited "see" United States v. Desena
2d Cir. · 2002 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.1997).
cited Cited "see" Kathryn Tarbe v. Berkel, Inc., D'angelo, Inc., Intervenor-Plaintiff
2d Cir. · 1999 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345 (2d Cir.1997); United States v. Thompson, 35 F.3d 100, 103 (2d Cir.1994).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Espinal
S.D.N.Y. · 2015 · signal: see also · confidence medium
There is no violation where the informant merely acts as a passive “listening post.” Smith v. Fischer, 957 F.Supp.2d 418, 439 (S.D.N.Y.2013); see also United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 345-46 (2d Cir.1997); Stevens, 83 F.3d at 64-65 .
discussed Cited "see, e.g." People v. Jackson
N.Y. App. Div. · 2015 · signal: see also · confidence medium
In any event, where an informer, such as the one here, works independently of the prosecution and provides information on his own initiative, and the government’s role is limited to the passive receipt of such information, the informer is not an agent of the government (see People v Cardona, 41 NY2d 333 , 335 [1977]; People v Corse, 73 AD3d 1208, 1209 [2010]; People v Nicholas, 199 AD2d 425 [1993]; People v Boswell, 193 AD2d 690 [1993]; People v Halstead, 180 AD2d 818 [1992]; see also United States v Birbal, 113 F3d 342, 346 [2d Cir 1997]).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." People v. Jackson
N.Y. App. Div. · 2014 · signal: see also · confidence medium
In any event, where an informer, such as the one here, works independently of the prosecution and provides information on his own initiative, and the government’s role is limited to the passive receipt of such information, the informer is not an agent of the government (see People v Cardona, 41 NY2d 333 , 335 [1977]; People v Corse, 73 AD3d 1208, 1209 [2010]; People v Nicholas, 199 AD2d 425 [1993]; People v Boswell, 193 AD2d 690 [1993]; People v Halstead, 180 AD2d 818 [1992]; see also United States v Birbal, 113 F3d 342, 346 [2d Cir 1997]).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." People v. Jackson
N.Y. App. Div. · 2014 · signal: see also · confidence medium
In any event, where an informer, such as the one here, works independently of the prosecution and provides information on his own initiative, and the government’s role is limited to the passive receipt of such information, the informer is not an agent of the government (see People v Cardona, 41 NY2d 333 , 335 [1977]; People v Corse, 73 AD3d 1208, 1209 [2010]; People v Nicholas, 199 AD2d 425 [1993]; People v Boswell, 193 AD2d 690 [1993]; People v Halstead, 180 AD2d 818 [1992]; see also United States v Birbal, 113 F3d 342, 346 [2d Cir 1997]).
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Fernandez
C.D. Cal. · 2001 · signal: see also · confidence medium
Brooks v. Kincheloe, 848 F.2d 940, 945 (9th Cir.1988); see also United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.1997) (citing cases and noting that “circuits agree that an informant becomes a government agent ... only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant”); 2 Wayne R.
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Labare
1st Cir. · 1999 · signal: compare · confidence medium
Compare Moore v. United States, 178 F.3d 994 (8th Cir.1999) (general agency insufficient), and United States v. Birbal, 113 F.3d 342, 346 (2d Cir.) (same), cert. denied, - U.S. -, 118 S.Ct. 433 , 139 L.Ed.2d 333 (1997), with United States v. Brink, 39 F.3d 419, 423-24 (3d Cir.1994) (appearing to consider multiple factors), and Creel v. Johnson, 162 F.3d 385, 393-94 (5th Cir.1998) (same), cert. denied, - U.S. -, 119 S.Ct. 2027 , 143 L.Ed.2d 1038 (1999). 3 .
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UNITED STATES of America, Appellee,
v.
Premnath BIRBAL; John T. Wright, Defendants-Appellants
856, 1204, Dockets 96-1433, 96-1434.
Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.
May 13, 1997.
113 F.3d 342
Elizabeth D. Mann, Rutland, VT (Tepper Dardeck & Mann), for Defendant-Appellant Premnath Birbal., Gary G. Shattuck, Assistant United States Attorney, Rutland, VT (Charles R. Tetzlaff, United States Attorney for the District of Vermont), for Appellee.
Jacobs, Leval, Cabranes.
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JACOBS, Circuit Judge:

Following a jury trial in the United States District Court for the District of Vermont (Sessions, /.), Premnath Birbal was convicted of a variety of drug offenses, as well as the destruction of evidence to prevent its seizure. Birbal appeals from his conviction and sentence on numerous grounds, all but one of which are addressed in a summary order issued simultaneously with this opinion. [1] Birbal’s remaining claim is that the district court erroneously failed to suppress a series of damaging admissions made by Birbal in the presence of a jailmate, Edward Gabaree. When Gabaree encountered Birbal, Gabaree had pleaded guilty to drug and weapons offenses, had entered into a cooperation agreement with the government, and the day before had been sentenced. Because Gabaree had a cooperation agreement with the government, and because Gabaree later received a sentence reduction for his cooperation, Birbal argues that Gabaree was an agent of the government, and that the admission of that testimony into evidence violated Birbal’s constitutional rights to remain silent and to assistance of counsel.

[*344] BACKGROUND

We summarize only the facts that bear upon the single issue addressed in this opinion.

Procedural Background. In June of 1992, Premnath Birbal was arrested for possession of cocaine with intent to distribute, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), and for destruction of evidence subject to a search warrant — by flushing cocaine down the toilet as police closed in — in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2232. Birbal was convicted of both counts (the “cocaine offenses”).

In December 1992, while Birbal awaited sentencing on the cocaine offenses, he and John T. Wright were indicted for supplying heroin to Peter Buckley, who died of an overdose of their merchandise on July 20, 1991. The grand jury also indicted both Birbal and Wright for conspiring to traffic in drugs during the two years prior to Buckley’s death (collectively, the “heroin offenses”). Following a jury trial, Wright and Birbal were convicted of the heroin offenses in November 1993 (also in the District Court for the District of Vermont (Billings, /.)).

Birbal and Wright appealed all of these convictions for both the cocaine and heroin offenses. In August 1995, this Court vacated the convictions on the ground that the reasonable doubt instruction was flawed, and remanded to the district court for new trials. See United States v. Birbal, 62 F.3d 456 (2d Cir.1995) (heroin convictions); United States v. Birbal, No. 93-1446, — F.3d - (2nd Cir., September 13, 1995) (cocaine convictions). Following remand, all of the charges were consolidated and formed the basis for a single superseding indictment. After a two week jury trial before Judge Sessions, both defendants were convicted on all but one of the counts. [2]

Birbal Encounters Gabaree. On September 18, 1992 — before his initial trial for the cocaine offenses — Birbal was transferred to the Addison County Jail. Edward Gabaree had been transferred to that facility the day before. Gabaree had recently entered into an agreement with the government to provide “any and all information in his possession relating directly or indirectly to any and all criminal activities or other matters of which he has knowledge,” and had been sentenced the previous day on drug-related charges.

On September 19, Gabaree asked Birbal why he was in jail, and engaged Birbal in shop talk, specifically inquiring as to the quantity of cocaine Birbal had flushed down the toilet and the total quantity of drugs Birbal had distributed. United States v. Birbal, Opinion and Order, No. 92 CR 98-01, 02 (WKS), at 2, 1996 WL 192924 (1996). Birbal responded that he had destroyed six ounces of cocaine, but then grew suspicious of Gabaree and shut up. Id.

Subsequently, during the course of Gabaree’s cooperation with respect to his own case, he reported Birbal’s statements to a DEA agent, who passed the information along to a Vermont police officer, who then interviewed Gabaree. Both the DEA agent and the officer told Gabaree to ask no more questions, but to listen if Birbal had more to say about his drug activity. Gabaree apparently complied; Birbal confirmed at the suppression hearing that Gabaree asked no further questions during their time in jail. Gabaree learned more about Birbal’s drug activity as a result of hearing conversations between Birbal and another inmate, Gary Malley. Id. at 2-3.

On October 8 and 15, 1992, Gabaree told the grand jury about Birbal’s drug activity.[*345] On October 24, Gabaree was transferred from the Addison County Jail.

At Birbal’s October 1992 trial for the cocaine offenses, he moved to suppress Gabaree’s testimony on the ground that Gabaree had been a government informant when he questioned Birbal in jail. The district court denied the motion. Thereafter, Gabaree testified at both Birbal’s first trial for the heroin offenses and the later consolidated trial. At the consolidated trial, Birbal again moved to suppress Gabaree’s testimony. The district court denied the motion, ruling: 1) Gabaree was not a government agent when he questioned Birbal, and 2) Gabaree did not interrogate Birbal after he became a government agent. United States v. Birbal, Opinion and Order, No. 92 CR 98-01, 02 (WKS), at 5, 1996 WL 192924 (1996).

The substance of Gabaree’s testimony at each trial was as follows. While in jail, Birbal discussed his cocaine career over the prior five years, recounting his drug-related dealings with Wright; Birbal also spoke of a friend of Wright’s known as “Pete,” who had died the same day that Birbal and Wright had sold him heroin and watched him shoot up. Birbal also related that, days before his arrest on the cocaine charges, he had transported a half-pound of cocaine from New York, sold two ounces of it, and flushed the rest down the toilet when the police broke in.

On cross-examination, Gabaree acknowledged that his motivation in approaching officials was to reduce his own jail time, and that his sentence had in fact been reduced by 36 months for his testimony.

DISCUSSION

We review the district court’s conclusions as to constitutional violations de novo, and its findings of fact for clear error. United States v. Thompson, 35 F.3d 100, 103 (2d Cir.1994).

On appeal, Birbal broadly argues, with respect to both the heroin and the cocaine offenses, that Gabaree’s testimony was received in violation of Birbal’s Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and his Sixth Amendment right to assistance of counsel. We note at the outset that Birbal has no argument that his Sixth Amendment rights were violated by Gabaree’s testimony regarding the heroin offenses, because Birbal was first indicted for his involvement in Peter Buckley’s death after his contact with Gabaree: “the Sixth Amendment right to counsel does not attach until after the initiation of formal charges.” Moran v. Burbine, 475 U.S. 412, 431, 106 S.Ct. 1135, 1146, 89 L.Ed.2d 410 (1986). We therefore only address Birbal’s Fifth Amendment challenge to his heroin convictions and his Fifth and Sixth Amendment challenges to his cocaine convictions.

A. The Sixth Amendment Challenge

The Sixth Amendment bars the government from planting an agent to elicit jailhouse admissions from an indicted defendant who has asserted his right to counsel. See United States v. Henry, 447 U.S. 264, 270-75, 100 S.Ct. 2183, 2186-89, 65 L.Ed.2d 115 (1980). However, “the Sixth Amendment is not violated whenever — by luck or happenstance — the State obtains incriminating statements from the accused after the right to counsel has attached.” Kuhlmann v. Wilson, 477 U.S. 436, 459, 106 S.Ct. 2616, 2630, 91 L.Ed.2d 364 (1986) (citing Maine v. Moulton, 474 U.S. 159, 176, 106 S.Ct. 477, 487, 88 L.Ed.2d 481 (1985)); see also United States v. Rosa, 11 F.3d 315, 329 (2d Cir.1993) (“The Sixth Amendment is not violated by the merely fortuitous receipt of incriminating statements.”). A defendant does not make out a constitutional violation “simply by showing that an informant, either through prior arrangement or voluntarily, reported his incriminating statements to the police.” Kuhlmann, 477 U.S. at 459, 106 S.Ct. at 2630. Although “the government [has] an affirmative obligation not to solicit incriminating statements from the defendant in the absence of his counsel,” Rosa, 11 F.3d at 329 (emphasis added), there is no constitutional violation when a government informant merely listens and reports, Kuhlmann, 477 U.S. at 459, 106 S.Ct. at 2629-30.

When Gabaree first encountered Birbal, Gabaree had agreed with the government to provide “any and all information in his possession relating directly or indirectly to any[*346] and all criminal activities or other matters of which he has knowledge,” but had not been enlisted to seek out and collect information from Birbal or any other jailmate. Gabaree asked Birbal questions about his drag activity, and later sought a benefit by offering Birbal’s admissions to the government, but once the government focused on the opportunity, it directed Gabaree to ask nothing further, but to listen passively.

The only question presented by this state of affairs is whether Gabaree — -an informant as to an unrelated case — was a government informant before he took Birbal’s statements to the police. Because we hold that Gabaree was not such an informant, Birbal’s Sixth Amendment rights were not violated by the admission of Gabaree’s testimony.

The “primary concern” of the government informant rale is to avoid “secret interrogation by investigatory techniques that are the equivalent of direct police interrogation.” Stano v. Butterworth, 51 F.3d 942, 977 (11th Cir.1995) (citing Kuhlmann, 477 U.S. at 459, 106 S.Ct. at 2630), cert. denied, — U.S. -, 116 S.Ct. 932, 133 L.Ed.2d 859 (1996). Gabaree’s July 1992 agreement with the government did not require him to elicit information from Birbal (or anyone else). There is no evidence that Gabaree was aware of Birbal’s existence before September 18. The Sixth Amendment rights of a talkative inmate are not violated when a jailmate acts in an entrepreneurial way to seek information of potential value, without having been deputized by the government to question that defendant. No doubt, Gabaree engaged Birbal in conversation in the hopes that he would get something valuable to take to the police, but Gabaree’s agreement did not render him a roving agent. See generally United States v. York, 933 F.2d 1343, 1357 (7th Cir.1991) (discussing incentives of prisoners to seek information to better their own lot). As soon as the government became involved, Gabaree stopped asking questions; he simply listened to Birbal’s bragging and reported it to the government. As previously noted, there is no constitutional violation in the absence of solicitation. See Kuhlmann, 477 U.S. at 459, 106 S.Ct. at 2629-30; Rosa, 11 F.3d at 329.

Other circuits agree that an informant becomes a government agent for purposes of Kuhlmann only when the informant has been instructed by the police to get information about the particular defendant. See, e.g., United States v. D.F., 63 F.3d 671, 682 n. 16 (7th Cir.1995) (key inquiry is whether “the government directed the interrogator toward the defendant in order to obtain incriminating information”); Stano, 51 F.3d at 977 (no evidence to support prearrangement between informant and government regarding defendant); Robinson v. Clarke, 939 F.2d 573, 576 (8th Cir.1991) (where government had not asked informant to solicit information while in prison, no Sixth Amendment violation); United States v. Watson, 894 F.2d 1345, 1347-48 (D.C.Cir.1990) (government informant was not instructed to obtain information from defendant; entrepreneurial acts did not violate defendant’s Sixth Amendment rights); Brooks v. Kincheloe, 848 F.2d 940, 945 (9th Cir.1988) (even though informant solicited information from defendant before going to the police, informant had not been asked to obtain information from defendant). But see United States v. Brink, 39 F.3d 419, 424 (3d Cir.1994).

B. The Fifth Amendment Challenge

Even if Gabaree had been a government agent at the time he questioned Birbal, Birbal’s Fifth Amendment rights still would not have been violated. Miranda v. Arizona and its progeny protect against the admission of incriminating statements made by a suspect during “questioning initiated by law enforcement officers” in a “police-dominated atmosphere.” Miranda, 384 U.S. 436, 444—45, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 1612, 16 L.Ed.2d 694 (1966); Illinois v. Perkins, 496 U.S. 292, 296, 110 S.Ct. 2394, 2397, 110 L.Ed.2d 243 (1990). That coercive atmosphere is lacking when an inmate speaks to someone he considers to be a fellow inmate. For that reason, “[ejonversations between suspects and undercover agents do not implicate the concerns underlying Miranda.” Perkins, 496 U.S. at 296, 110 S.Ct. at 2397; see also United States v. Holmes, 44 F.3d 1150, 1159 (2d Cir.1995); Alexander v. State of Connecticut, 917 F.2d 747, 751 (2d Cir.1990).

[*347] CONCLUSION

For the reasons stated above, the judgment of the district court is affirmed.

1

. The summary order also decides the appeal of Birbal’s co-defendant, John T. Wright. See United States v. Birbal, Nos. 96-1433, 96-1434, 1997 WL 249946 (May 13, 1997).

2

. The superseding indictment charged both defendants with: 1) conspiring between 1989 and July 20, 1991 to distribute and possess with intent to distribute heroin, cocaine, and marijuana, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 846; 2) distributing heroin to Buckley on July 20, 1991 (the date of his death), in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1); 3) travelling in interstate commerce between July 18 and 20, 1991, for the purpose of facilitating an unlawful activity (dealing in heroin), in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1952(a)(3) (the Travel Act); and 4) between 1989 and 1991, distributing heroin, marijuana, and cocaine to Lawrence Stoddard, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1). The indictment also charged Birbal with 5) possessing cocaine with intent to distribute in June 1992, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1); and 6) destroying evidence during the execution of a search warrant to prevent its seizure, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2232(a).

Birbal and Wright were acquitted on the Travel Act count.