Hiroko Havekost David W. Sutton Ron Haglund Jerry Crowley v. United States Dep't of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316 (9th Cir. 1991). · Go Syfert
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At page 318 Analyzing speech rights in public employment contexts33 citing cases“because havekost's dispute, like that of the plaintiff in connick, is nothing more than a workplace grievance, ruling for her would be inconsistent with the principle stated in connick.”4 citing courts quote it · 29 listed here
  • Blackburn v. City of Marshall, No. 93-05149 (5th Cir. Jan. 12, 1995).published
    (Because protected speech must address a matter of public concern in the Pickering/Connick cases, an employee may have a steeper hurdle than a Perry plaintiff.)
  • Bass, No. 3:23-cv-00084 (D. Or. Mar. 16, 2026).
    Havekost v. United States Dep’t of Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir.1991) (quoting Johnson v. Multnomah Cnty., Or., 48 F.3d 420, 424 (9th Cir. 1995)).
  • Lawson v. Univ. of Hawaii, No. 1:24-cv-00172 (D. Haw. May 3, 2024).
    This analysis seeks to determine whether the employee aimed “‘to bring wrongdoing to light,’ not ‘merely to further some purely private interest.’” Id. (quoting Havekost v. U.S. Dep’t of Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir. 1991)). “[S]peech…
  • Ewing v. City of Toledo, No. 6:18-cv-01626 (D. Or. Feb. 29, 2024).
    As noted by Judge Kasubhai, older case law clarifies that a key part of determining whether an employee’s speech addresses a matter of public concern is “whether the employee spoke in order to bring wrongdoing to light or merely to further…
  • Julie Ballou v. James McElvain, No. 20-35416 (9th Cir. Mar. 24, 2022).published
    “Whether an employee’s speech addresses a matter of public concern must be determined by the content, form, and context” of the expression, Connick v. Myers, 461 U.S. 138 , 147-48 (1983), with content weighing as the “greatest single facto…
  • Julie Ballou v. James McElvain, 29 F.4th 413 (9th Cir. 2021).published
    “Whether an employee’s speech addresses a matter of public concern must be determined by the content, form, and context” of the expression, Connick v. Myers, 461 U.S. 138 , 147-48 (1983), with content weighing as the “greatest single facto…
  • Doug Greisen v. Jon Hanken, 925 F.3d 1097 (9th Cir. 2019).published
    This analysis seeks to determine whether the employee aimed “‘to bring wrongdoing to light,’ not ‘merely to further some purely private interest.’” Id. (quoting Havekost v. U.S. Dep’t of Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir. 1991)). “[S]peech…
  • Webb v. Cnty. of Trinity, 734 F. Supp. 2d 1018 (E.D. Cal. 2010).published
    Desrochers, 572 F.3d at 714-15 , Havekost v. United States Dep’t of Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir.1991).
  • Desrochers v. City of San Bernardino, 572 F.3d 703 (9th Cir. 2009).published 9 cites
    We assess each aspect of the Connick test in turn. 1 “First and foremost, we consider the content of the speech,” Weeks, 246 F.3d at 1234 , “ ‘the greatest single factor in the Connick inquiry.’ ” Johnson, 48 F.3d at 424 (quoting Havekost…
  • Alpha Energy Savers, Inc. v. Diane Hansen Multnomah Cnty. Judy Swendsen, 381 F.3d 917 (9th Cir. 2004).published
    Although Obrist’s argument appears to have merit, we need not decide whether the district court erred in analyzing his motives for assisting Stephens because we have held that “motive should not be used as a litmus test for public concern;…
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  • Robert Perez v. Michael J. Hoblock, 368 F.3d 166 (2d Cir. 2004).published
    (observing that plaintiffs “status as a licensed horseman may more nearly place him [in] the category applicable to public employees than in the category of purely private citizens)
  • Richard Ceballos v. Gil Garcetti Frank Sundstedt Carol Najera Cnty. of Los Angeles, 361 F.3d 1168 (9th Cir. 2004).published 2 cites
    Content is “the greatest single factor in the Connick inquiry.” Johnson v. Multnomah County, 48 F.3d 420, 424 (9th Cir.1995) (quoting Havekost v. United States Dep’t of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir.1991)).
  • John Roe v. City of San Diego San Diego City Police Dep't David Bejarano George Saldamando Glenn Breitenstein, 356 F.3d 1108 (9th Cir. 2004).published 6 cites
    See, e.g., Coszalter, 320 F.3d at 974 (holding that a city employee's disclosures of health and safety hazards to the state regulatory agency and the public touched on matters of public concern); Ulrich, 308 F.3d at 978 (holding that a doc…
  • John R. Ulrich, Jr., M.D. v. City & Cnty. of San Francisco Laguna Honda Hosp. Maria v. Rivero, M.D. Theresa Berta, M.D. Melissa Welch, M.D., 308 F.3d 968 (9th Cir. 2002).published
    (noting that “motive should not be used as a litmus test for public concern; rather, ‘content is the greatest single factor in the Connick inquiry’)
  • Gratsch v. Hamilton Cnty. Sheriff's Dep't, 91 F. Supp. 2d 1160 (S.D. Ohio 2000).published
    (applying the Pickering test in a case in which the Plaintiff did not have an employment contract with the Navy, but rather a “revocable grant of permission to work for customer tips” as a grocery bagger.)
  • Hyland v. Wonder, 117 F.3d 405 (9th Cir. 1997).published
    We held, however, that because the speech in question was not a matter of public concern but rather “nothing more than a workplace grievance,” id. at 318, the First Amendment did not protect it.
  • Lambert v. Richard, 59 F.3d 134 (9th Cir. 1995).published 2 cites
    (holding complaint about dress code and staffing policies “nothing more than a workplace grievance” and noting that a “critical inquiry is whether employee spoke in order to bring wrongdoing to light or merely to further…)
  • Cohen v. San Bernardino Valley Coll., 883 F. Supp. 1407 (C.D. Cal. 1995).published
    (holding that grocery bagger’s circulation of petition calling for discharge of head grocery bagger was not speech on a matter of public concern)
  • Jan Johnson v. Multnomah Cnty., 48 F.3d 420 (9th Cir. 1995).published 2 cites
    Ill We return, therefore, to the question whether Johnson’s statements substantially involved matters of public concern. “[Cjontent is the greatest single factor in the Connick inquiry.” See Havekost v. United States Dep’t of Navy, 925 F.2…
  • Jimmy Blackburn v. Marshall City Of, 42 F.3d 925 (5th Cir. 1995).published 2 cites
    Recognizing that Havekost was a licensee rather than a salaried public employee, the Ninth Circuit stated that Pickering and Connick “are not directly on point.” Id. at 318.
  • Kerry Copsey v. Jerry Swearingen, 36 F.3d 1336 (5th Cir. 1994).published 2 cites
    The Ninth Circuit recognized that Pickering and Connick “are not directly on point” because “Havekost was a licensee on the Navy’s premises rather than a salaried employee.” Id. at 318.
  • Hyland v. Wonder, 972 F.2d 1129 (9th Cir. 1992).published 3 cites
    Perry v. Sindermann, 408 U.S. 593, 597 , 92 S.Ct. 2694, 2698 , 33 L.Ed.2d 570 (1972) (“For at least a quarter-century, this Court has made clear that ... [government] may not deny a benefit to a person on a basis that infringes his constit…
  • Rexwinkel v. Parsons, 162 F. App'x 698 (9th Cir. 2006).unpublished
    See Havekost v. United States Dep’t of Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318-19 (9th Cir.1991).
  • Allen v. City of Boulder, 157 F. App'x 979 (9th Cir. 2005).unpublished
    See Havekost v. U.S. Dep’t of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir.1991).
  • Lauretano v. Spada, 339 F. Supp. 2d 391 (D. Conn. 2004).published
    (One critical inquiry is whether the employee spoke in order to bring wrongdoing to light or merely to further some purely private interest.)
  • Elmer Skaarup v. City of North Las Vegas, 320 F.3d 1040 (9th Cir. 2003).published 2 cites
    See Ulrich, 308 F.3d at 979 (doctor's airing of his concerns about layoffs at hospital staff meetings and posting a letter expressing concerns at nurses' station "indicate that he spoke `in order to bring wrongdoing to light,' not `merely…
  • George M. Weeks, III v. Robert Bayer, 246 F.3d 1231 (9th Cir. 2001).published
    See Havekost v. United States Dep’t of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir.1991).
  • Khuans v. Sch. Dist. 110, 123 F.3d 1010 (7th Cir. 1997).published 2 cites
    (licensee grocery bagger terminated after circulating petition)
  • J. Burk VOIGT v. Richard D. SAVELL, 70 F.3d 1552 (9th Cir. 1995).published
    (independent licensee’s petition to other licensees calling for the ouster of their representative due to disagreements over “minutiae of workplace grievances” contained no hint of a matter of public concern)
At page 319 Determining public concern for employee speech16 citing cases“an internal dispute over the navy's dress code, scheduling, and responsibility for certain lost commissary profits.”3 citing courts quote it · 13 listed here
  • Blackburn v. City of Marshall, No. 93-05149 (5th Cir. Jan. 12, 1995).published
    See, e.g., Havekost v. United States Dep't of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 318 (9th Cir. 1991) ("Because protected speech must address a matter of public concern in the Pickering/Connick cases, an employee may have a steeper hurdle than a Perry…
  • Joan Uhl v. Lake Havasu City, 359 F. App'x 749 (9th Cir. 2009).unpublished 2 cites
    Although an employee’s intended audience is a relevant factor in the form and context inquiry, see Havekost v. U.S. Dep’t of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 319 (9th Cir. 1991), speech within the workplace can be protected, see, e.g., Rankin v. Mc…
  • Desrochers v. City of San Bernardino, 572 F.3d 703 (9th Cir. 2009).published 9 cites
    We assess each aspect of the Connick test in turn. 1 “First and foremost, we consider the content of the speech,” Weeks, 246 F.3d at 1234 , “ ‘the greatest single factor in the Connick inquiry.’ ” Johnson, 48 F.3d at 424 (quoting Havekost…
  • Creighton v. City of Livingston, 628 F. Supp. 2d 1199 (E.D. Cal. 2009).published
    (finding speech of a grocery bagger employed by Naval Station’s commissary expressing her objections to the new employee dress code and a proposed increase in the number of baggers per shift did not relate to a matter of…)
  • Handte v. Hosmer, 327 F. App'x 1 (9th Cir. 2008).unpublished 2 cites
    Paszek’s speech instead addressed “the minutiae of workplace grievances,” particularly since he never “attempted] to reach the general public.” Havekost v. U.S. Dept. of Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 319 (9th Cir.1991).
  • John Roe v. City of San Diego San Diego City Police Dep't David Bejarano George Saldamando Glenn Breitenstein, 356 F.3d 1108 (9th Cir. 2004).published 6 cites
    (holding that an "internal dispute over the Navy's dress code, scheduling, and responsibility for certain lost commissary profits" were "the minutiae of workplace grievances" and thus not of public concern)
  • John R. Ulrich, Jr., M.D. v. City & Cnty. of San Francisco Laguna Honda Hosp. Maria v. Rivero, M.D. Theresa Berta, M.D. Melissa Welch, M.D., 308 F.3d 968 (9th Cir. 2002).published
    In this evaluation, “we focus on the point of the speech,” Chateaubriand v. Gaspard, 97 F.3d 1218, 1223 (9th Cir.1996), looking to such factors as the “employee’s motivation and the audience chosen for the speech.” Gilbrook, 177 F.3d at 86…
  • Hyland v. Wonder, 117 F.3d 405 (9th Cir. 1997).published
    We held, however, that because the speech in question was not a matter of public concern but rather “nothing more than a workplace grievance,” id. at 318, the First Amendment did not protect it.
  • Kerry Copsey v. Jerry Swearingen, 36 F.3d 1336 (5th Cir. 1994).published 2 cites
    The Ninth Circuit recognized that Pickering and Connick “are not directly on point” because “Havekost was a licensee on the Navy’s premises rather than a salaried employee.” Id. at 318.
  • White v. Nevada, 312 F. App'x 896 (9th Cir. 2009).unpublished 4 cites
    (finding no matter of public concern where “Havekost made no attempt to reach the general public)
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At page 316 “a revocable grant of permission to work for customer tips.”2 citing cases2 citing courts quote it
  • Hyland v. Wonder, 972 F.2d 1129 (9th Cir. 1992).published 3 cites
    Perry v. Sindermann, 408 U.S. 593, 597 , 92 S.Ct. 2694, 2698 , 33 L.Ed.2d 570 (1972) (“For at least a quarter-century, this Court has made clear that ... [government] may not deny a benefit to a person on a basis that infringes his constit…
  • Arthur L. Christie, III v. H. Lawrence Garrett, Iii, 959 F.2d 239 (9th Cir. 1992).unpublished
    When Congress has created a statutory remedy for potential harms, the courts must refrain from implying non-statutory causes of action such as Bivens. " 925 F.2d at 316. 25 Christie's attempts to demonstrate that his claims did not arise o…
At page 317 cited at this page1 citing case
  • Carepartners, LLC v. Lashway, 545 F.3d 867 (9th Cir. 2008).published 2 cites
    In contrast, in Havekost v. U.S. Department of the Navy, 925 F.2d 316, 317-18 (9th Cir. 1991), we noted that the Connick/Pickenng standards were not directly on point, but applied public employee standards to the retaliation claim of a gro…
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Hiroko HAVEKOST; David W. Sutton; Ron Haglund; Jerry Crowley, Plaintiffs-Appellees,
v.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF the NAVY, Et Al., Defendant, and Jovito Banzon, Defendant-Appellant
90-35229.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
Feb 1, 1991.
Published opinion
925 F.2d 316
91 Cal. Daily Op. Serv. 883
1991 U.S. App. LEXIS 1358
1991 WL 8596
Frank A. Rosenfeld, Atty., U.S. Dept, of Justice, Washington, D.C., for defendant-appellant., Guy William Beckett, Weinstein, Hacker, Matthews, & Young, Seattle, Wash., for plaintiffs-appellees.
Goodwin, Wright, Noonan.
Cited by 58 opinions  |  Published
GOODWIN, Chief Judge:

Jovito Banzon defended this civil rights action on the basis of qualified immunity. He appeals the order which denied the defense, and we reverse.

At the time of the incident giving rise to this action, Banzon was the officer in charge of the commissary at the Puget Sound Naval Station (“Puget Sound”) in Bremerton, Washington. Plaintiff Hiroko Havekost worked as a grocery bagger in the commissary. When Banzon terminated her permission to work, Havekost sued Banzon in his individual capacity under the theory that Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Fed. Bureau of Narcotics, 403 U.S. 388, 91 S.Ct. 1999, 29 L.Ed.2d 619 (1971), created a cause of action for violation of her speech rights under the first amendment. Because the facts establish that Banzon’s action did not “violate clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known,” he has qualified immunity. Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 800, 818, 102 S.Ct. 2727, 2738, 73 L.Ed.2d 396 (1982).

Because a denial of summary judgment is not ordinarily a final decision within the meaning of 28 U.S.C. § 1291 (1988), the denial is usually not reviewable on appeal. Roth v. Veteran’s Admin., 856 F.2d 1401, 1404 (9th Cir.1988). In Duran v. City of Douglas, Ariz., 904 F.2d 1372, 1375-76 (9th Cir.1990), however, this court recognized a limited exception to that rule: when a district court’s denial of summary judgment on a qualified immunity claim turns on a purely legal question, that denial is appealable as a “final decision” within the meaning of § 1291. The relevant facts in this case are not disputed. Rather, the case turns on a purely legal question: whether Banzon violated clearly established constitutional protections. Accordingly, we exercise jurisdiction over Banzon’s appeal.

Havekost’s license to work as a grocery bagger was not an employment contract, but rather a revocable grant of permission to work for customer tips. By the terms of the license, Havekost and the other bag-gers were not “under the supervision, direction, or control of any employee of the Bremerton Commissary.” A head bagger, elected by the baggers, acted as their supervisor and liaison to commissary management.

After Banzon took charge of the commissary in 1988, Havekost grew dissatisfied with what she and other baggers perceived to be Banzon’s attempts to exercise direct supervisory authority over them. She objected to his insistence that baggers honor the Navy’s newly implemented dress code for “employees.” She also objected to Ban-zon’s proposal to increase the number of baggers scheduled per shift and to hold baggers financially responsible for groceries missing or damaged by bagging or carryout operations. Havekost voiced these objections at a meeting attended by Banzon and fellow baggers.

Havekost next decided that the head bag-ger was failing to perform her duty to represent the baggers’ collective interests to Banzon and initiated a petition for her discharge. The circulation of the petition apparently triggered a discussion between Havekost and Banzon, who then revoked Havekost’s license.

As a federal official with authority to revoke the licenses of baggers, Banzon may assert the Harlow immunity defense “to protect the exercise of [his] discretion.” Allen v. Scribner, 812 F.2d 426, 436 n. 21 (9th Cir.1987). To lose his entitlement under Harlow, the unconstitutionality of Ban-zon’s revocation of Havekost’s license must have been sufficiently clear at the time of the incident that a reasonable official would have known it. Anderson v. Creighton, 483 U.S. 635, 640, 107 S.Ct. 3034, 3039, 97 L.Ed.2d 523 (1987). This rule serves to “protect[] government officials from charges that they knowingly violated standards that were in fact unknowable....” Murray v. Gardner, 741 F.2d 434, 439-40 n. 2 (D.C.Cir.1984).

Speech rights of government employees were established in Pickering v. Board of [*318] Education, 391 U.S. 563, 88 S.Ct. 1731, 20 L.Ed.2d 811 (1968), and refined in Connick v. Myers, 461 U.S. 138, 103 S.Ct. 1684, 75 L.Ed.2d 708 (1983). Following Pickering-Connick, this circuit’s decisions in McKinley v. City of Eloy, 705 F.2d 1110 (9th Cir.1983), and Roth, 856 F.2d at 1404, recognize that an individual may not be dismissed from public employment for exercising a “right to speak on issues of public importance.” Pickering, 391 U.S. at 574, 88 S.Ct. at 1737.

Because Havekost was a licensee on the Navy’s premises rather than a salaried employee, however, those cases are not directly on point. Havekost would have us apply the broad principle that the government may not deny a person a valuable' benefit “on a basis that infringes his constitutionally protected interests — especially, his interest in freedom of speech.” Perry v. Sindermann, 408 U.S. 593, 597, 92 S.Ct. 2694, 2697, 33 L.Ed.2d 570 (1972). Because protected speech must address a matter of public concern in the Pickering-Connick cases, an employee may have a steeper hurdle than a Perry plaintiff. The benefit Havekost asserts is the contractual right to earn tips as a bagger at the commissary. She argues that circulation of the petition constituted speech, and revocation of her license infringed that speech.

We are persuaded that the Pickering-Connick analysis would be appropriate in the present context. The Supreme Court’s language in Connick strongly suggests that Havekost’s ventilation of grievances did not have first amendment protection, even though Havekost was not an employee. Connick involved a deputy district attorney who voiced her objection to being transferred to another unit by circulating a questionnaire about internal office procedures regarding transfers and office morale. Connick, 461 U.S. at 140-41, 103 S.Ct. at 1686-87. In rejecting Connick's first amendment claim, the Supreme Court stated forcefully that a federal court “is not the appropriate forum in which to review the wisdom of a personnel decision taken by a public agency allegedly in reaction to the employee’s behavior.” Id. at 147, 103 S.Ct. at 1690. The Court explained that,

it would indeed be a Pyrrhic victory for the great principles of free expression if the Amendment’s safeguarding of a public employee’s right, as a citizen, to participate in discussions concerning public affairs were confused with the attempt to constitutionalize the employee grievance that we see presented here.

Id. at 154, 103 S.Ct. at 1694. Because Havekost’s dispute, like that of the plaintiff in Connick, is nothing more than a workplace grievance, ruling for her would be inconsistent with the principle stated in Connick.

The content, form, and context of Have-kost’s speech in light of the entire record contain no hint of a matter of public concern. Id. at 147-48, 103 S.Ct. at 1690-91. In defining public concern, this court has stated that,

[sjpeech by public employees may be characterized as not of “public concern” when it is clear that such speech deals with individual personnel disputes and grievances and that the information would be of no relevance to the public’s evaluation of the performance of governmental agencies. On the other hand, speech that concerns “issues about which information is needed or appropriate to enable the members of society” to make informed decisions about the operation of their government merits the highest degree of first amendment protection.

McKinley, 705 F.2d at 1114 (citations omitted). One critical inquiry is whether the employee spoke in order to bring wrongdoing to light or merely to further some purely private interest. Breuer v. Hart, 909 F.2d 1035, 1039 n. 5 (7th Cir.1990); Schalk v. Gallemore, 906 F.2d 491, 495 (10th Cir.1990); Roth, 856 F.2d at 1405-06. The Seventh Circuit has warned, however, that motive should not be used as a litmus test for public concern; rather, “content is the greatest single factor in the Connick inquiry.” Berg v. Hunter, 854 F.2d 238, 243 (7th Cir.1988) (citations omitted), cert. denied, 489 U.S. 1053, 109 S.Ct. 1314, 103 L.Ed.2d 583 (1989).

[*319] Havekost’s speech was as much a matter of public concern as would be the length and distribution of coffee breaks. The petition was circulated exclusively among the baggers; Havekost made no attempt to reach the general public, a factor considered relevant in other public concern cases. See, e.g., Barkoo v. Melby, 901 F.2d 613, 618-19 (7th Cir.1990) (suggesting that actual communication with the press on an issue of some public interest would indicate public speech). Furthermore, the petition arose out of an internal dispute over the Navy’s dress code, scheduling, and responsibility for certain lost commissary profits. These matters are the minutiae of workplace grievances.

In contrast, speech on a matter of “public concern” has been found in the following Supreme Court cases: Rankin v. McPherson, 483 U.S. 378, 380, 386, 107 S.Ct. 2891, 2894, 2898, 97 L.Ed.2d 315 (1987) (on-the-job statement in favor of President Reagan’s assassination made by employee of law enforcement agency); Connick, 461 U.S. at 149, 103 S.Ct. at 1691 (question by the assistant district attorney about whether her coworkers “ever [felt] pressured to work in political campaigns”); Givhan v. Western Line Consolidated School Dist., 439 U.S. 410, 413, 99 S.Ct. 693, 58 L.Ed.2d 619 (1979) (complaints about school board policies and practices); Mt. Healthy City School District Board of Ed. v. Doyle, 429 U.S. 274, 282, 284, 97 S.Ct. 568, 573, 574, 50 L.Ed.2d 471 (1977) (memorandum given by a teacher to a radio station dealing with teacher dress and appearance); Perry, 408 U.S. at 595, 598, 92 S.Ct. at 2696, 2698 (legislative testimony of a state college teacher advocating that a particular college be elevated to four-year status); Pickering, 391 U.S. at 571-72, 88 S.Ct. at 1736-37 (high school teacher’s criticism of Board of Education’s allocation of school funds and methods of informing taxpayers about the need for additional revenue).

In this circuit, protected speech has been found in these cases: Finkelstein v. Bergna, 881 F.2d 702, 703, 706 (9th Cir.1989) (deputy district attorney’s express opposition to candidate for district attorney of Santa Clara County); Roth, 856 F.2d at 1403, 1406 (former troubleshooter’s allegations of waste, corruption, mismanagement, and inadequate safety at the Veteran’s Administration Medical Center in San Francisco); Allen v. Scribner, 812 F.2d 426, 427-28, 431 (9th Cir.1987) (entomologist’s allegation made to the press of breach of public trust by Mediterranean Fruit Fly Eradication Project management); Anderson v. Central Point School Dist. No. 6, 746 F.2d 505, 506-07 (9th Cir.1984) (assistant football coach’s proposal at an open school board meeting to restructure the district’s athletic program); McKinley, 705 F.2d at 1112, 1114-15 (probationary employee’s public criticism of police department for denying officers an annual raise).

Despite Connick’s unfavorable dicta, Havekost asserts that the partial protection provided to federal officials by Pickering-Connick would be inappropriate in her case because the Navy — by its own assertion — was not her employer. Presumably, Havekost believes that on-the-job speech deserves greater first amendment protection when made by an independent licensee than by a government employee. We see no reason, however, to create a special class of terminated positions whose holders can bring their workplace grievances to federal court as § 1983 claims.

Pickering-Connick immunity has been applied, moreover, in cases where an employer-employee relationship did not exist. See, e.g., Smith v. Cleburne County Hosp., 870 F.2d 1375, 1381-84 (8th Cir.1989) (surgeon denied staff privileges at hospital), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 110 S.Ct. 142, 107 L.Ed.2d 100 (1989); Davis v. West Community Hosp., 755 F.2d 455, 460-62 (5th Cir.1985) (same). In Smith, the Eighth Circuit justified applying Pickering-Connick by underscoring the right of a public hospital “to regulate its medical staff in order to insure the delivery of adequate medical care to its patients.” Smith, 870 F.2d at 1381. The Navy has a similar right to regulate its commissary staff.

[*320] We acknowledge that this case does not have all the Smith ingredients. For example, the Navy did not subject Havekost to an application process comparable to that in Smith. In addition, the terms of the license did not impose specific duties beyond complying with “all local, state, and federal government requirements as they affect self-employed individuals.” Nevertheless, these differences do not in themselves indicate that application of Pickering-Connick would be improper here.

In Mares v. Marsh, 111 F.2d 1066 (5th Cir.1985), the Fifth Circuit held that an Army commissary bagger was not an employee for purposes of Title VII, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e et seq. (1988). The court considered the “ ‘economic realities’ of the work relationship” and focused on “ ‘the extent of the employer’s right to control the “means and manner” of the worker’s performance....’” Id. at 1067 (quoting Spirides v. Reinhardt, 613 F.2d 826, 831 (D.C.Cir.1979)). The court found significant the Army’s lack of involvement in the hiring, firing, or supervision of the bag-gers; the absence of wages, medical leave, insurance or retirement benefits for the baggers; and the lack of Army input as to work arrangements and duty schedules. Id. at 1068-69. In Mares, the grocery bagging operations were virtually identical to those in this case, with one exception: unlike the Army in Mares, the Navy in this case retained the express right to revoke a bagger’s license at will. Mares is therefore distinguishable. Even if we were to follow Mares and treat a commissary bag-ger as someone other than an “employee,” the case does not hold that the first amendment is implicated in work-related grievances like Havekost’s.

Connick’s express purpose was to keep public offices from being “run as ... roundtable[s] for employee complaints over internal office affairs.” Connick, 461 U.S. at 149, 103 S.Ct. at 1691. Because Have-kost’s speech related primarily to a workplace grievance, we could not allow this action to proceed without placing this circuit in intolerable tension with Connick.

In sum, even if reversal is not required by the single fact that Picker ing-Connick’s applicability to licensees remains an open question, and even though Havekost’s claim may not have been frivolous, we cannot rule in her favor. The law was simply not sufficiently clear to warrant denying Banzon qualified immunity for his discretionary revocation of Have-kost’s license.

REVERSED AND REMANDED with instructions to dismiss the action.