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discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) State v. Unga (2×) also: Cited "see"
Wash. · 2008 · signal: see · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
the proper test is whether the interrogator resorted to tactics that in the circumstances prevented the suspect from making a rational decision whether to confess or otherwise inculpate himself
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) United States v. Richard A. Frederick, and Randolph W. Lenz, Karin Lenz, and Kcs Industries, Inc., Intervening (2×) also: Cited "see, e.g."
7th Cir. · 1999 · signal: see, e.g. · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
this court . . . has moved decisively to the position that appellate review of determinations of mixed questions of fact and law should be governed by the standard of clear error, and not by the de novo standard.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dassey v. Dittmann
E.D. Wis. · 2016 · confidence medium
Consequently, “[a] false promise of lenience is ‘an example of forbidden [interrogation] tactics, for it would impede the suspect in making an informed choice as to whether he was better off confessing or clamming up.’ ” United States v. Stadfeld, 689 F.3d 705, 709 (7th Cir.2012) (quoting United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Jacob Stadfeld
7th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
A false promise of lenience is “an example of forbidden [interrogation] tactics, for it would impede the suspect in making an informed choice as to whether he was better off confessing or clamming up.” United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Jacob Stadfeld
7th Cir. · 2012 · confidence medium
A false promise of lenience is “an example of forbidden [interrogation] tactics, for it would impede the suspect in making an informed choice as to whether he was better off confessing or clamming up.” United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Villalpando
7th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. Kontny, 238 F.3d 815, 818 (7th Cir.2001); Sprosty v. Buchler, 79 F.3d 635, 646-47 (7th Cir.1996); United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995), vacated and remanded on other grounds, 517 U.S. 1231 , 116 S.Ct. 1873 , 135 L.Ed.2d 169 (1996); United States v. Rutledge, 900 F.2d 1127, 1130 (7th Cir.1990).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Christopher Villalpando
7th Cir. · 2009 · confidence medium
See, e.g., United States v. Kontny, 238 F.3d 815, 818 (7th Cir. 2001); Sprosty v. Buchler, 79 F.3d 635, 646-47 (7th Cir. 1997); United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir. 1995), vacated and remanded on other grounds, 517 U.S. 1231 (1996); United States v. Rutledge, 900 F.2d 1127, 1130 (7th Cir. 1990).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Phoenix Bond & Indemnity Co. v. MCM Enterprises, Inc.
S.D. Ind. · 2005 · confidence medium
Matter of Teranis, 128 F.3d 469, 471 (7th Cir.1997); In re Krehl, 86 F.3d 737, 742 (7th Cir.1996) (citing United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Kontny, Kenneth P.
7th Cir. · 2001 · confidence medium
United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir. 1995), vacated and remanded on other grounds, 517 U.S. 1231 (1996); United States v. Rutledge, supra, 900 F.2d at 1130 .
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Kenneth P. Kontny and Joann L. Kontny
7th Cir. · 2001 · confidence medium
United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995), vacated and remanded on other grounds, 517 U.S. 1231 , 116 S.Ct. 1873 , 135 L.Ed.2d 169 (1996); United States v. Rutledge, supra, 900 F.2d at 1130 .
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Hall v. United States
E.D. Va. · 1998 · confidence medium
That a “suspect’s cooperation, by lightening the government’s burdens of investigation and prosecution, is looked upon favorably by prosecutors and judges” is “very close to being a truism.” United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365-66 (7th Cir.1995), vacated on other grounds, 517 U.S. 1231 , 116 S.Ct. 1873 , 135 L.Ed.2d 169 (1996), on remand, 124 F.3d 205 , 1997 WL 471328 (7th Cir.1997), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 118 S.Ct. 390 , 139 *896 L.Ed.2d 305 (1997).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rovell v. American National Bank (In Re Rovell)
N.D. Ill. · 1998 · confidence medium
In 1995, the circuit court announced that "appellate review of determinations of mixed questions of fact and law should be governed by the clear error standard, and not by the de novo standard,” United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Leonard
4th Cir. · 1998 · confidence medium
That a "suspect's cooperation, by lightening the govern- ment's burdens of investigation and prosecution, is looked upon favorably by prosecutors and judges" is "very close to being a tru- ism." United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365-66 (7th Cir. 1995), vacated on other grounds, 116 S. Ct. 1873 (1996), on remand, No. 94-1025, 1997 WL 471328 (7th Cir. Aug. 14, 1997), cert. denied, 118 S. Ct. 390 (1997); see also Glover, 104 F.3d at 1582 (discussions about cooperation and promises to make cooperation known to the prosecutor and court do not render a confession involuntary); United States v. …
discussed Cited as authority (rule) In the Matter of Robert P. Krehl, Debtor-Appellant
7th Cir. · 1996 · confidence medium
This circuit has embraced the notion that “appellate review of determinations of mixed questions of fact and law should be governed by the standard of clear error, and not by the de novo standard” (United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995)), but that broad pronouncement was recently undercut by the Supreme Court’s decision in Ornelas , where the Court determined that reviewing courts must consider de novo the mixed question of whether probable cause or reasonable suspicion exists to support a warrantless search under the Fourth Amendment. - U.S. at -, 116 S.Ct. at 1662-63…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. Drake
N.D. Ill. · 1996 · confidence medium
In evaluating whether the interrogator engaged in overreaching, the proper test is “whether the interrogator resorted to tactics that in the circumstances prevented the suspect from making a rational decision whether to confess or otherwise inculpate himself.” United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Daniel A. Johnson v. Charles Miller
7th Cir. · 1996 · confidence medium
Although the state court's findings on this mixed question (where a legal standard is applied to historical facts) is not entitled to a presumption of correctness by a federal district court reviewing a petition for habeas corpus, Perri, 817 F.2d 448 , 452 (1987), an appellate court is to review a district court's determination of this mixed question for "clear error." United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995), reh'g en banc denied, petition for cert. filed, (September 5, 1995) (No. 95-5845).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) United States v. D.F. (2×) also: Cited "see"
7th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
Baldwin, 60 F.3d at 365 (7th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Kevin L. Neal v. James W. Fairman, Jr.
7th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
Finally, in Count VI, Neal alleges a failure to release him from segregation on the proper date. 4 The district court concluded, and we agree, that Neal was not denied his right to due process. 2 We review a district court's determinations of mixed questions of fact and law under a clearly erroneous standard, United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995), and will not set aside its findings unless "it leaves us with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been committed, a conviction we cannot reach if the trial judge chose between permissible views of the evidence." Ro…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Walgreen Company & Subsidiaries v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue
7th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
The fitting of a legal definition to the “facts” is itself a task of factfinding for purposes of determining the scope of appellate review, as we keep reminding the bar, most recently in Brooks v. Buscher, 62 F.3d 176, 179 (7th Cir.1995), and United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Jeremy J. Smith v. Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States, Cross-Appellee
7th Cir. · 1995 · confidence medium
United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995).
discussed Cited "see" State v. Unga (2×)
Wash. · 2008 · signal: see · confidence high
"The question ... [is] whether [the interrogating officer's] statements were so manipulative or coercive that they deprived [the suspect] of his ability to make an unconstrained, autonomous decision to confess." Miller, 796 F.2d at 605 ; see United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995) ("the proper test is whether the interrogator resorted to tactics that in the circumstances prevented the suspect from making a rational decision whether to confess or otherwise inculpate himself"), vacated on other grounds, 517 U.S. 1231 , 116 S.Ct. 1873 , 135 L.Ed.2d 169 (1996), adhered to on rema…
discussed Cited "see" United States v. Cornelius Knottnerus
7th Cir. · 1998 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Cichon, 48 F.3d 269, 274 (7th Cir.1995), cert. denied, 516 U.S. 1111 , 116 S.Ct. 908 , 133 L.Ed.2d 840 (1996), and overruled on other grounds, United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363 (7th Cir.1995); see also United States v. Noriega, 117 F.3d 1206, 1211 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, — U.S. -, 118 S.Ct. 1389 , 140 L.Ed.2d 648 (1998).
discussed Cited "see" John Williams Adams v. Kenneth R. Morgan, Superintendent of Racine Correctional Institution
7th Cir. · 1996 · signal: see · confidence high
Enoch v. Gramley, 70 F.3d 1490, 1496 (7th Cir.1995); Griffin v. Camp, 40 F.3d 170, 172 (7th Cir.1994); see, however, United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995) (mixed findings of law and fact are generally reviewed for clear error), petition for cert. filed (U.S. Sep. 5, 1995) (No. 95-5845). 2 The three victims had identified Adams at a lineup.
cited Cited "see" Andre Jones v. Thomas F. Page, Warden, Menard Correctional Center, and James Ryan, Attorney General of the State of Illinois
7th Cir. · 1996 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995) (involving direct appellate review of a mixed question of law and fact). 9 .
discussed Cited "see" United States v. Wendell Justice
7th Cir. · 1995 · signal: see · confidence high
See United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995) ("the proper test [for voluntariness] is whether the interrogator resorted to tactics that in the circumstances prevented the suspect from making a rational decision whether to confess or otherwise inculpate himself.").
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Montgomery (2×)
7th Cir. · 2009 · signal: see also · confidence medium
See United States v. Montgomery, 14 F.3d 1189, 1194 (7th Cir.1994) (A confession is considered voluntary if the state demonstrates that it “ ‘was not secured through psychological or physical intimidation but rather was the product of a rational intellect and free will.’ ”) (quoting United States v. Haddon, 927 F.2d 942, 945 (7th Cir.1991)). “[A]n empty prosecu-torial promise could prevent a suspect from making a rational choice by ‘distorting the alternatives among which the person under interrogation is being asked to choose.’ ” Sprosty v. Buckler, 79 F.3d 635, 646 (7th Cir.1…
discussed Cited "see, e.g." United States v. Calvin Montgomery (2×)
7th Cir. · 2009 · signal: see also · confidence medium
See United States v. Montgomery, 14 F.3d 1189, 1194 (7th Cir. 1994) (A confession is considered voluntary i f the state demonstrates that it “ ‘was not secured through psychological or physical intimidation but rather was No. 08-1690 11 the product of a rational intellect and free will.’ ”) (quoting United States v. Haddon, 927 F.2d 942, 945 (7th Cir. 1991)). “[A]n empty prosecutorial promise could prevent a suspect from making a rational choice by ‘distort- ing the alternatives among which the person under inter- rogation is being asked to choose.’ ” Sprosty v. Buchler, 79 F.3…
discussed Cited "see, e.g." Larry J. Sprosty v. Dan Buchler, Acting Warden, Racine Correctional Institution, and James E. Doyle, Attorney General of the State of Wisconsin
7th Cir. · 1996 · signal: see also · confidence medium
Like other misrepresentations, an empty prosecu-torial promise could prevent a suspect from making a rational choice “by distorting the alternatives among which the person under interrogation is being asked to choose.” Weidner v. Thieret, 866 F.2d 958, 963 (7th Cir.1989); see also United States v. Baldwin, 60 F.3d 363, 365 (7th Cir.1995) (generally, a false promise of leniency to induce confession is a forbidden tactic), pet. for cert. filed, No. 955845 (U.S. Sept. 5, 1995); United States v. Rutledge, 900 F.2d 1127, 1129-30 (7th Cir.) (same), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 875 , 111 S.Ct. 203 , 11…
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UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
Charles BALDWIN, Defendant-Appellant
94-1025.
Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.
Jul 19, 1995.
60 F.3d 363
1995 U.S. App. LEXIS 17746
1995 WL 424484
Mel S. Johnson, Asst. U.S. Atty., Office of U.S. Atty., Milwaukee, WI, for plaintiff-ap-pellee U.S., Christopher Lowe, Milwaukee, WI, for defendant-appellant Charles Baldwin.
Flaum, Ripple, Rovner, Posner, Fairchild, Kanne.
Cited by 41 opinions  |  Published
Reporter's Syllabus editorial summary, not part of the Court's opinion

Mel S. Johnson, Asst. U.S. Atty., Office of U.S. Atty., Milwaukee, WI, for plaintiff-appellee U.S.

Christopher Lowe, Milwaukee, WI, for defendant-appellant Charles Baldwin.

Before POSNER, Chief Judge, and FAIRCHILD and KANNE, Circuit Judges.

POSNER, Chief Judge.

Lead Opinion

POSNER, Chief Judge.

The defendant was convicted of a drug offense and sentenced to 23 years in prison. His only ground for appeal that merits discussion is that inculpatory statements (that he was a habitual user of cocaine and that he routinely carried a gun for protection) that he made to a federal agent who questioned him shortly after he had been arrested should have been suppressed as involuntary. The agent had promised that any cooperation by the defendant would be brought to the prosecutor’s attention. This promise, the defendant argues, rendered his statements involuntary. The district court rejected the argument and allowed the statements into evidence.

The conventional standard for appellate review of determinations of the voluntariness of a statement, which in this circuit was established in United States v. Hawkins, 823 F.2d 1020, 1022 (7th Cir.1987), is the de novo standard. See, e.g., United States v. Cichon, 48 F.3d 269, 275 (7th Cir.1995); United States v. Benitez, 34 F.3d 1489, 1495 (9th Cir.1994); United States v. Burns, 15 F.3d 211, 216 (1st Cir.1994). But beginning with Judge Easterbrook’s concurring opinion in Sotelo v. Indiana State Prison, 850 F.2d 1244, 1253-54 (7th Cir.1988), our cases increasingly have questioned the soundness of the conventional approach. Johnson v. Trigg, 28 F.3d 639, 645 (7th Cir.1994); United States v. Rutledge, 900 F.2d 1127, 1128 (7th Cir.1990); United States v. Wildes, 910 F.2d 1484, 1485 (7th Cir.1990); Wilson v. O’Leary, 895 F.2d 378, 383 (7th Cir.1990). The cases that follow the approach do so on the authority of Miller v. Fenton, 474 U.S. 104, 110, 106 S.Ct. 445, 449, 88 L.Ed.2d 405 (1985), a case that did not involve appellate review of a federal district court’s determination of voluntariness. A habeas corpus case in which a state prisoner was seeking to have the federal district court overturn his conviction on the ground that it rested on a coerced confession, Miller held that 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d), which requires federal courts in habeas corpus proceedings to presume that state courts’ “factual” findings are correct, is inapplicable to the issue of voluntariness. “[T]he ultimate issue of Voluntariness’ is a legal question requiring independent federal review.” 474 U.S. at 110, 106 S.Ct. at 449. This is a different matter from whether a federal court of appeals should review de novo a determination of voluntariness made not by a state judge in a state trial but by a federal district judge in a federal trial. Since the relation between federal and state courts and the relation between federal appellate and federal trial courts are not symmetrical, the two questions need not be answered the same way. Miller is designed to provide a state prisoner with generous federal review of the constitutional question whether he was convicted with the aid of a coerced confession. It has nothing directly and, as it seems to us at any rate, very little indirectly to do with the scope of appellate review of determinations made by federal judges.

[*365] Whether a particular confession or other statement was “voluntary” or “involuntary” is a classic instance of a “mixed question of fact and law,” that is to say, of the application of a legal standard (that of voluntariness) to “the facts” as a layman would understand them, such as what the agent said to Baldwin, whether it was true, and how much Baldwin knew about how the criminal justice system works. This court, consistent with decisions by the Supreme Court, McDermott Int'l Inc. v. Wilander, 498 U.S. 337, 356, 111 S.Ct. 807, 818, 112 L.Ed.2d 866 (1991); Cooter & Gell v. Hartmarx Corp., 496 U.S. 384, 401-05, 110 S.Ct. 2447, 2458-61, 110 L.Ed.2d 359 (1990); Pierce v. Underwood, 487 U.S. 552, 559-61, 108 S.Ct. 2541, 2547-48, 101 L.Ed.2d 490 (1988), has moved decisively to the position that appellate review of determinations of mixed questions of fact and law should be governed by the standard of clear error, and not by the de novo standard. E.g., G.J. Leasing Co. v. Union Electric Co., 54 F.3d 379, 381 (7th Cir.1995); Stevens v. United States, 49 F.3d 331, 334 (7th Cir.1995); Williams v. Commissioner, 1 F.3d 502, 505 (7th Cir.1993); United States v. Spears, 965 F.2d 262, 269-71 (7th Cir.1992); Mars Steel Corp. v. Continental Bank N.A., 880 F.2d 928, 933 (7th Cir.1989) (en bane). The reasons are several. The trial judge, because he is closer to the facts — the court of appeals gets them at second hand — knows more about the premise to which the legal standard (possession, negligence, good faith — or voluntariness, as in the Stevens case) is to be applied. He is also more practiced than appellate judges in assessing the significance of facts. And since the legal standard is a given, and only its application to a particular and perhaps unique set of facts is in question, de novo review is not necessary to produce a reasonable uniformity of the legal principles applied within the court’s jurisdiction. Uniformity occurs at the level of the standard; it is impossible at the level of application because outcomes vary with the differing facts of different cases.

These considerations apply as forcefully to appellate review of determinations of voluntariness as they do to determinations of other mixed questions of fact and law. To our knowledge, no case or other appropriate source of guidance to judges has suggested a reason to suppose these considerations inapplicable, or even less applicable, to determinations of voluntariness. It is true that the issue of voluntariness is constitutional. But so is the issue of probable cause for a search or arrest, and, even closer, the issue of the voluntariness of a waiver of Miranda rights and the issue of the voluntariness of a consent to search; yet all three are issues in which appellate review in this circuit is for clear error, rather than being de novo. United States v. Spears, supra, 965 F.2d at 269-71; Bryan v. Warden, 820 F.2d 217, 219-20 (7th Cir.1987); cf. United States v. Price, 54 F.3d 342, 345 (7th Cir.1995). Consistency and common sense require that the issue of the voluntariness of a confession be treated the same way, and we so hold today.

Applying the standard of clear error to the present case, we must uphold the judge’s ruling that Baldwin’s statements were voluntary. Although courts until comparatively recently would sometimes say, quoting Bram v. United States, 168 U.S. 532, 542-43, 18 S.Ct. 183, 186-87, 42 L.Ed. 568 (1897), that any confession wrung out of a suspect by promises or threats is involuntary, e.g., United States v. Costello, 750 F.2d 553, 555 (7th Cir.1984); United States v. Jackson, 918 F.2d 236, 241-42 (1st Cir.1990), that had ceased to be the actual test of involuntariness long before the formal interment of Bram in Arizona v. Fulminante, 499 U.S. 279, 285, 111 S.Ct. 1246, 1251, 113 L.Ed.2d 302 (1991). As we explained in United States v. Rutledge, supra, 900 F.2d at 1130, the proper test is whether the interrogator resorted to tactics that in the circumstances prevented the suspect from making a rational decision whether to confess or otherwise inculpate himself. A false promise of lenience would be an example of forbidden tactics, for it would impede the suspect in making an informed choice as to whether he was better off confessing or clamming up. But “government is not forbidden to buy information with honest promises of consideration.” Id. at 1130. And as it is well known that the suspect’s cooperation, by lightening the government’s burdens of investigation and prosecution, is looked upon[*366] favorably by prosecutors and judges, what the agent told the defendant was very close to being a truism; it is not claimed to have been false and misleading; and the defendant was not a tyro or ignoramus, but a 39-year-old with a long history of involvement in the criminal justice system. The district court’s conclusion that, in these circumstances, the statements were voluntary cannot be considered clearly erroneous.

Because this decision overrules a previous decision of the court (Hawkins) and creates an intereireuit conflict, it was circulated to the full court in accordance with 7th Cir.R. 40(f). A majority of the active judges voted not to hear the ease en banc, Judges Coffey, Flaum, Ripple, and Rovner dissenting.

AFFIRMED.

Concurrence

FAIRCHILD, Circuit Judge,

concurring.

I concur in affirmance. Applying the de novo standard, I have no difficulty in concluding that Baldwin’s decision to make a statement was not unconstitutionally induced.

Looking at the issue of voluntariness as a question of a mental state, I can agree that it is anomalous not to treat it as an issue of fact. Issues as to intent, knowledge, willfulness and the like, are treated as issues of fact. On review of a trial court finding on those issues, the appellate court is deferential, rejecting the finding only if clearly erroneous.

In the light of Miller v. Fenton, 474 U.S. 104, 106 S.Ct. 445, 88 L.Ed.2d 405 (1985), however, I do not think we are free to hold that the constitutional issue of voluntariness is an issue of fact. Miller, of course, was a habeas proceeding, challenging a state conviction, and not a federal criminal case. The analysis, said the Court, is whether “tactics for eliciting inculpatory statements must fall within the broad constitutional boundaries imposed by the Fourteenth Amendment’s guarantee of fundamental fairness.” Id. at p. 110, 106 S.Ct. at p. 449. Is the issue different when the accused relies on the due process guaranteed to a federal defendant by the Fifth Amendment?

It is true that in the Miller context, the ultimate holding was that the issue of “volun-tariness” requires “independent federal determination.” Id. at pp. 110, 112, 113, 115, 106 S.Ct. at pp. 449, 450, 451, 452. The predicate of the holding, however, appears to be the character of the issue. Thus, “the ultimate issue of ‘voluntariness’ is a legal question requiring independent federal determination,” id. at p. 110, 106 S.Ct. at p. 449, “was a ‘mixed questio[n] of fact and law ’ subject to plenary federal review,” id. at p. 112, 106 S.Ct. at p. 450, “a legal inquiry requiring plenary federal review,” id. at p. 115, 106 S.Ct. at p. 452 (emphasis supplied).

The Court said:

In addition to considerations of stare decisis and congressional intent, the nature of the inquiry itself lends support to the conclusion that “voluntariness” is a legal question meriting independent consideration in a federal habeas corpus proceeding. Although sometimes framed as an issue of “psychological fact,” Culombe v. Connecticut, 367 U.S. [568], at 603 [81 S.Ct. 1860, 1879, 6 L.Ed.2d 1037 (1961) ], the dispositive question of the voluntariness of a confession has always had a uniquely legal dimension.

Id. at pp. 115-16, 106 S.Ct. at p. 452.

It has been suggested that the issue might be classified as one of law for the purpose of requiring federal review in a habeas proceeding, but one of fact for the purpose of appellate review. Weidner v. Thieret, 866 F.2d 958, 961 (7th Cir.1989); Wilson v. O’Leary, 895 F.2d 378, 383 (7th Cir.1990); United States v. Wildes, 910 F.2d 1484, 1485 (7th Cir.1990).

The constitutional right of a defendant in a state criminal ease not to have a statement used against him unless it is voluntary must be virtually the same as that of a defendant in a criminal case in a federal court. I have seen no analysis which justifies treating vol-untariness as an issue of law when a habeas proceeding is before a district court, but an issue of fact when a court of appeals reviews a judgment of a federal district court.

Dissent

FLAUM, Circuit Judge,

with whom ILANA DIAMOND ROVNER, Circuit Judge, joins, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc.

Respectfully, it is my judgment that the manner in which we review the voluntariness[*367] of confessions on direct appeal is exactly the type of issue deserving of en banc consideration, especially when we are overruling the law of the circuit, creating intercircuit conflicts, and placing a questionable spin on Supreme Court precedent. See Rovner, J., Dissent from Denial of Rehearing En Bane at 368. Quite apart from the issue of operating with a short-handed court, see Ripple, J., Dissent from Denial of Rehearing En Banc at-& n. 1, this court’s use of a case from our non-argued calendar, with limited briefing, to decide a significant point of law not necessary to final disposition, is not in my view the best way to go about our business. Recognizing this circuit’s apparent desire to be the most proactive court in the country on questions of expanding deferential review, see, e.g., United States v. Spears, 965 F.2d 262, 268-71 (7th Cir.) (applying clearly erroneous review for trial court’s determinations in eases involving warrantless seizures under the Fourth Amendment), cert. denied, — U.S. -, 113 S.Ct. 502, 121 L.Ed.2d 438 (1992); Mars Steel Corp. v. Continental Bank N.A., 880 F.2d 928, 930 (7th Cir.1989) (en banc) (rejecting de novo and applying deferential review for trial court decisions to impose Rule 11 sanctions), I believe we should painstakingly examine this vexing predilection to lessen our review capacity.

Dissent

RIPPLE, Circuit Judge,

with whom ILANA DIAMOND ROVNER, Circuit Judge, joins, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc.

Today the court, despite its bobtailed condition,[1] takes this occasion to change, through our mail-vote Circuit Rule 40(f) procedure, a major issue in criminal procedure— the standard of review governing the volun-tariness of a confession. It takes that action in a case in which the United States explicitly conceded that the standard of review is not outcome-determinative.

In taking this summary action, the court alters the established law of the circuit,[2] departs from the great weight of authority among the circuits,[3] and fails to come to[*368] grips with existing Supreme Court precedent.[4] It takes this action despite the presence on our docket of an appeal by the United States, presumably with the permission of the Solicitor General, in which the government has taken a position contrary to the one we adopt today.[5]

It is indeed sad that many of the judges of the court believe that, on so important an issue, neither the argument of counsel at oral argument nor the collegial discussion of the conference room is appropriate to the decision-making process. Too many cases and too few judges produce hydraulic pressures that subtly transform an institution from a case-deciding institution to a case-processing institution. Today’s action is concrete proof that we already have undergone a great deal of that transformation.

1

See North Ga. Finishing, Inc. v. Di-Chem, Inc., 419 U.S. 601, 615, 95 S.Ct. 719, 727, 42 L.Ed.2d 751 (1975) (Blackmun, J., dissenting).

2

See, e.g., United States v. Cichon, 48 F.3d 269, 275 (7th Cir.1995), petition for cert. filed (May 18, 1995) (No. 94 — 9315); United States v. Sablotny, 21 F.3d 747, 752 (7th Cir.1994); United States v. Montgomery, 14 F.3d 1189, 1194 (7th Cir.1994); United States v. White, 979 F.2d 539, 543 (7th Cir.1992); United States v. McGuire, 957 F.2d 310, 315 (7th Cir.1992); United States v. Cahill, 920 F.2d 421, 427 (7th Cir.1990), cert. denied, 500 U.S. 934, 111 S.Ct. 2058, 114 L.Ed.2d 463 (1991); United States v. Fazio, 914 F.2d 950, 956 n. 9 (7th Cir.1990); United States v. Harris, 914 F.2d 927, 933 (7th Cir.1990); United States v. Hocking, 860 F.2d 769, 773 (7th Cir.1988); United States v. Hawkins, 823 F.2d 1020, 1022-23 (7th Cir.1987). This circuit's habeas corpus decisions incorporating the de novo standard of review for voluntariness of a confession include Lord v. Duckworth, 29 F.3d 1216, 1222 (7th Cir.1994); Baskin v. Clark, 956 F.2d 142, 145 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, - U.S. -, 113 S.Ct. 109, 121 L.Ed.2d 67 (1992); Pharr v. Gudmanson, 951 F.2d 117, 119-20 (7th Cir.1991); Bae v. Peters, 950 F.2d 469, 474 (7th Cir.1991); Mikel v. Thieret, 887 F.2d 733, 739 (7th Cir.1989); Sotelo v. Indiana State Prison, 850 F.2d 1244, 1247 (7th Cir.1988); Bryan v. Warden, 820 F.2d 217, 219 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 484 U.S. 867, 108 S.Ct. 190, 98 L.Ed.2d 142 (1987). But see, e.g., United States v. Taylor, 31 F.3d 459, 463 (7th Cir.1994) (stating standard as one of fact to be decided by trial judge); id. at 468 (Ripple, J., concurring and dissenting, stating that this circuit’s precedent uses a de novo review of the question of voluntariness); Johnson v. Trigg, 28 F.3d 639, 645 (7th Cir.1994) (questioning applicability of de novo standard for voluntariness issues); United States v. Haddon, 927 F.2d 942, 946-47 (7th Cir.1991) (using a totality of the circumstances balancing test); United States v. Rutledge, 900 F.2d 1127, 1128-29 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 875, 111 S.Ct. 203, 112 L.Ed.2d 164 (1990) (expressing doubt about soundness of de novo standard); Wilson v. O’Leary, 895 F.2d 378, 383 (7th Cir.1990) (questioning voluntariness as issue of law rather than fact); United States v. Rodriguez, 888 F.2d 519, 522 n. 1 (7th Cir.1989) (listing cases disputing de novo review).

3

.See, e.g., United States v. Yunis, 859 F.2d 953, 958 (D.C.Cir.1988); United States v. Burns, 15 F.3d 211, 216 (1st Cir.1994); Green v. Scully, 850 F.2d 894, 900 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 488 U.S. 945, 109 S.Ct. 374, 102 L.Ed.2d 363 (1988); United States v. Velasquez, 885 F.2d 1076, 1086 (3d Cir.1989), cert. denied, 494 U.S. 1017, 110 S.Ct. 1321, 108 L.Ed.2d 497 (1990); United States v. Pelton, 835 F.2d 1067, 1072 (4th Cir.1987), cert. denied, 486 U.S. 1010, 108 S.Ct. 1741, 100 L.Ed.2d 204 (1988); United States v. Scurlock, 52 F.3d 531, 536 (5th Cir.1995); United States v. Rigsby, 943 F.2d 631, 635 (6th Cir.1991), cert. denied, 503 U.S. 908, 112 S.Ct. 1269, 117 L.Ed.2d 496 (1992); United States v. Robinson, 20 F.3d 320, 322 (8th Cir.1994); United [*368] States v. Benitez, 34 F.3d 1489, 1495 (9th Cir.1994), cert. denied, - U.S. -, 115 S.Ct. 1268, 131 L.Ed.2d 146 (1995); United States v. Muniz, 1 F.3d 1018, 1021 (10th Cir.), cert. denied, 114 S.Ct. 575, 126 L.Ed.2d 474 (1993); Stano v. Butterworth, 51 F.3d 942, 944 (11th Cir.1995); Coleman v. Singletary, 30 F.3d 1420, 1426 (11th Cir.1994), cert. denied, - U.S. -, 115 S.Ct. 1801, 131 L.Ed.2d 727 (1995). But see United States v. Mendoza-Cecelia, 963 F.2d 1467, 1475 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, - U.S. -, 113 S.Ct. 436, 121 L.Ed.2d 356 (1992) (reviewing under clear error standard).

4

See Beckwith v. United States, 425 U.S. 341, 348, 96 S.Ct. 1612, 1617, 48 L.Ed.2d 1 (1976); Davis v. North Carolina, 384 U.S. 737, 741-42, 86 S.Ct. 1761, 1764-65, 16 L.Ed.2d 895 (1966). See also Miller v. Fenton, 474 U.S. 104, 110, 106 S.Ct. 445, 449, 88 L.Ed.2d 405 (1985).

5

See United States v. D.F., No. 94-2900, Government Br. at 17 (relying on Miller v. Fenton, 474 U.S. 104, 110, 106 S.Ct. 445, 449, 88 L.Ed.2d 405 (1985) and United States v. Montgomery, 14 F.3d 1189, 1194 (7th Cir.1994), for its position that the voluntariness of a statement is subject to de novo review).

Dissent

ILANA DIAMOND ROVNER, Circuit Judge,

with whom RIPPLE, Circuit Judge, joins, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc.

This case merits the careful consideration of the full court. The panel majority’s opinion not only places us in conflict with our sister circuits, as Judge Ripple points out (Ripple, J., Dissent from Denial of Rehearing En Banc, supra, at 367 & n. 3), but hinges on a reading of Miller v. Fenton, 474 U.S. 104, 106 S.Ct. 445, 88 L.Ed.2d 405 (1985), that I believe at the very least is open to question. Granted, the precise question before the Court in Miller was the degree of deference that a state court determination of voluntariness should be given by a federal habeas court. But in resolving that question, the Court considered at some length the nature of the voluntariness assessment, and where it falls in the spectrum between findings of purely “historical” fact reviewed for clear error and legal determinations subject to de novo review. In discussing the appropriate methodology for deeming a particular question one of “law” or of “fact” the Court noted:

Where ... the relevant legal principle can be given meaning only through its application to the particular circumstances of a case, the Court has been reluctant to give the trier of fact’s conclusions presumptive force and, in so doing, strip a federal appellate court of its primary function as an expositor of law.

Id. at 114, 106 S.Ct. at 451.

In deciding that the voluntariness determination was one that required independent review in habeas proceedings, the Court left little doubt that it did not consider this to be the type of factual question normally entitled to deference on appeal:

Although sometimes framed as an issue of “psychological fact,” the dispositive question of the voluntariness of a confession has always had a uniquely legal dimension. It is telling that in confession cases coming from the States, this Court has consistently looked to the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to test admissibility. The locus of the right is significant because it reflects the Court’s consistently held view that the admissibility of a confession turns as much on whether the techniques for extracting the statements, as applied to this suspect, are compatible with a system that presumes innocence and assures that a conviction will not be secured by inquisitorial means as on whether the defendant’s will was in fact overborne. This hybrid quality of the voluntariness inquiry, subsuming, as it does, a “complex[*369] of values,” itself militates against treating the question as one of simple historical fact.

Id. at 116-16, 106 S.Ct. at 452-53 (emphasis in original) (footnote and citations omitted).

As Judge Fairchild asks in his concurring opinion, “Is the issue any different when the accused relies on the due process guaranteed to a federal defendant by the Fifth Amendment?” Supra at 366. I think not. Indeed, the Supreme Court itself, when confronted with an involuntary confession claim in a federal prosecution, expressly observed that “[w]hen such a claim is raised, it is the duty of an appellate court, including this Court, ‘to examine the entire record and make an independent determination of the ultimate issue of voluntariness.’ ” Beckwith v. United States, 425 U.S. 341, 348, 96 S.Ct. 1612, 1617, 48 L.Ed.2d 1 (1976) (quoting Davis v. North Carolina, 384 U.S. 737, 741-42, 86 S.Ct. 1761, 1764, 16 L.Ed.2d 895 (1966)).

Both Miller and Beckwith speak directly to the question that the panel majority has posed and, in my view, they point to the de novo standard of review we have applied until today. Our departure from that standard demands far more attention than the court has given it.