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language conveys sufficiently definite warning in Ohio

21 Ohio opinions name it 6 courts 1953–2023 1 in the last five years

The cases below were cited by Ohio courts in a sentence that names this issue. Sides come from how each citing opinion treated the case (Syfertize flag on that citation), so a case can appear on both: that is where the law is contested. A red or yellow chip is the case's own overall treatment.

Followed or applied (2)

CaseFollowedCited
Jordan v. De Georgegreen
scotus · 1951 · cited in 18 Ohio opinions naming this issue, 1985–2023
2 sentences

2023However, “ ‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether Richland County, Case No. 2022 CA 0071 9 the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’ ” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶30} Appellant argues the statute is vague because “[i]t penalizes behavior based on its arbitrary interpretation by the beholder rather than by its innate criminal nature.” {¶31} In Curington v. Moon, 2nd Dist.

2023However, “ ‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether Richland County, Case No. 2022 CA 0071 9 the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’ ” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶30} Appellant argues the statute is vague because “[i]t penalizes behavior based on its arbitrary interpretation by the beholder rather than by its innate criminal nature.” {¶31} In Curington v. Moon, 2nd Dist.

218
State v. Reedergreen
ohio · 1985 · cited in 5 Ohio opinions naming this issue, 1990–2016
2 sentences

2015In applying this standard, however, " '[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct No. 15AP-211 8 when measured by common understanding and practices' " State v. Reeder, 18 Ohio St.3d 25, 26 (1985), quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223, 231-32 (1951). {¶ 26} R.C. 4511.19(A)(1)(j)(viii)(II) prohibits per se the operation of a motor vehicle by a person presenting a concentration equal to or greater than 35 nanograms of marijuana metabolite per liter of urine.

2009“However, * * * ‘[impossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’ ” State v. Reeder (1985), 18 Ohio St.3d 25, 26 , 18 OBR 21, 479 N.E.2d 280 , quoting Jordan v. De George (1951), 341 U.S. 223, 231-232 , 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 .

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Distinguished, questioned or overruled (0)

CaseNegativeCited
No negative-treatment citations attached to this issue in Ohio. Read the followed side critically anyway.

Also cited on this issue (14)

CaseCitedYears
Coates v. City of Cincinnati green
scotus · 1971
2 sentences

2019However, “‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶40} A facial challenge requires that “the challenging party * * * show that the statute is vague ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of condu

2019However, “‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶40} A facial challenge requires that “the challenging party * * * show that the statute is vague ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of condu

42009–2019
State v. Anderson green
ohio · 1991
2 sentences

2019However, “‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶40} A facial challenge requires that “the challenging party * * * show that the statute is vague ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of condu

2019However, “‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶40} A facial challenge requires that “the challenging party * * * show that the statute is vague ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of condu

42016–2019
State v. Carrick green
ohio · 2012
2 sentences

2019However, “‘[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’” Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231–232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶40} A facial challenge requires that “the challenging party * * * show that the statute is vague ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of condu

2017However, " '[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.' " Id. at ¶ 14, quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223 , 231-232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶ 16} A facial challenge requires "the challenging party * * * show that the statute is vague 'not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of conduct

42016–2019
State ex rel. Rear Door Bookstore v. Tenth District Court of Appeals green
ohio · 1992
2 sentences

1997Mathematical certainty is not required. ‘ * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices. * * * ’ Jordan v. De George (1951), 341 U.S. 223, at 231-232 , 71 S.Ct. 703, at 708 , 95 L.Ed. 886 , at 892.” Rear Door Bookstore, 63 Ohio St.3d at 358 , 588 N.E.2d at 120-121 .

1997Mathematical certainty is not required. ‘ * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices. * * * ’ Jordan v. De George (1951), 341 U.S. 223, at 231-232 , 71 S.Ct. 703, at 708 , 95 L.Ed. 886 , at 892.” Rear Door Bookstore, 63 Ohio St.3d at 358 , 588 N.E.2d at 120-121 .

31997–2003
City of Columbus v. Thompson green
ohio · 1971
2 sentences

2017However, " '[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.' " Id. , quoting Jordan v. De George , 341 U.S. 223 , 231-232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶ 23} "A statute may be challenged as unconstitutional on the basis that it is invalid on its face or as applied to a particular set of facts." Stidam at ¶ 18, quoting State v. Lowe , 112 Ohio St.3d 507 , 861 N.E.2d 512 , 2007-Ohio-606 , ¶ 17. a.

2012However, “ ‘[impossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.’ ” Id., quoting Jordan v. De George, 341 U.S. 223, 231-232 , 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶ 15} Carrick argued to the lower courts that the statute was unconstitutional on its face and as applied.

22012–2017
State v. Lowe green
ohio · 2007
2 sentences

2017However, " '[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.' " Id. , quoting Jordan v. De George , 341 U.S. 223 , 231-232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶ 23} "A statute may be challenged as unconstitutional on the basis that it is invalid on its face or as applied to a particular set of facts." Stidam at ¶ 18, quoting State v. Lowe , 112 Ohio St.3d 507 , 861 N.E.2d 512 , 2007-Ohio-606 , ¶ 17. a.

2017However, " '[i]mpossible standards of specificity are not required. * * * The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.' " Id. , quoting Jordan v. De George , 341 U.S. 223 , 231-232, 71 S.Ct. 703 , 95 L.Ed. 886 (1951). {¶ 23} "A statute may be challenged as unconstitutional on the basis that it is invalid on its face or as applied to a particular set of facts." Stidam at ¶ 18, quoting State v. Lowe , 112 Ohio St.3d 507 , 861 N.E.2d 512 , 2007-Ohio-606 , ¶ 17. a.

12017–2017
Smith v. Goguen green
scotus · 1974
2 sentences

2009Therefore, the complainant in a facial-vagueness challenge must prove that the statute is vague “ ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of conduct is specified at all.’ ” Smith v. Goguen (1974), 415 U.S. 566, 578 , 94 S.Ct. 1242 , 39 L.Ed.2d 605 , quoting Coates v. Cincinnati (1971), 402 U.S. 611, 614 , 91 S.Ct. 1686 , 29 L.Ed.2d 214 . {¶ 58} Appellants maintain that the characteristics enumerated in R.C. 2915.01(AAA)(2) that exclude a machine from the definition of a le

2009Therefore, the complainant in a facial-vagueness challenge must prove that the statute is vague “ ‘not in the sense that it requires a person to conform his conduct to an imprecise but comprehensible normative standard, but rather in the sense that no standard of conduct is specified at all.’ ” Smith v. Goguen (1974), 415 U.S. 566, 578 , 94 S.Ct. 1242 , 39 L.Ed.2d 605 , quoting Coates v. Cincinnati (1971), 402 U.S. 611, 614 , 91 S.Ct. 1686 , 29 L.Ed.2d 214 . {¶ 58} Appellants maintain that the characteristics enumerated in R.C. 2915.01(AAA)(2) that exclude a machine from the definition of a le

12009–2009
Hoffman Estates v. Flipside, Hoffman Estates, Inc. green
scotus · 1982
1 sentence

2002"The test is whether the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices. * * *" Jordan v. De George (1951), 341 U.S. 223 , 231-232 . {¶ 18} However, as noted in Village of Hoffman Estates v. The Flipside, Hoffman Estates, Inc. (1982), 455 U.S. 489 , 495 , a person "who engages in some conduct that is clearly proscribed cannot complain of the vagueness of the law as applied to the conduct of others." Where a court finds that the complainant's conduct fell within the statute's proscriptions, the complainant may not

12002–2002
State v. Cleary green
ohio · 1986
2 sentences

1999At the heart of appellant’s vagueness argument is a challenge to the Supreme Court of Ohio’s interpretation of the word “operate” espoused in State v. Cleary and State v. Gill, supra. 1 In those cases, the Supreme Court stated that the term “operate” is broader than mere driving and includes the situation where a person is seated in the driver’s seat of a vehicle “with the ignition key in his possession indicating either his actual or potential movement of the vehicle.” (Emphasis added.) Gill, 70 Ohio St.3d at 153 , 637 N.E.2d at 900, quoting Cleary, 22 Ohio St.3d at 199 , 22 OBR at 351-352, 4

1999At the heart of appellant’s vagueness argument is a challenge to the Supreme Court of Ohio’s interpretation of the word “operate” espoused in State v. Cleary and State v. Gill, supra. 1 In those cases, the Supreme Court stated that the term “operate” is broader than mere driving and includes the situation where a person is seated in the driver’s seat of a vehicle “with the ignition key in his possession indicating either his actual or potential movement of the vehicle.” (Emphasis added.) Gill, 70 Ohio St.3d at 153 , 637 N.E.2d at 900, quoting Cleary, 22 Ohio St.3d at 199 , 22 OBR at 351-352, 4

11999–1999
State v. Gill green
ohio · 1994
1 sentence

1999At the heart of appellant’s vagueness argument is a challenge to the Supreme Court of Ohio’s interpretation of the word “operate” espoused in State v. Cleary and State v. Gill, supra. 1 In those cases, the Supreme Court stated that the term “operate” is broader than mere driving and includes the situation where a person is seated in the driver’s seat of a vehicle “with the ignition key in his possession indicating either his actual or potential movement of the vehicle.” (Emphasis added.) Gill, 70 Ohio St.3d at 153 , 637 N.E.2d at 900, quoting Cleary, 22 Ohio St.3d at 199 , 22 OBR at 351-352, 4

11999–1999
State v. Tanner green
ohio · 1984
1 sentence

1990Second, a statute should preclude "arbitrary, capricious and generally discriminatory enforcement by officials given too much authority and too few constraints." Tanner, supra at 3 .

11990–1990
United States v. Petrillo green
scotus · 1947
1 sentence

1962“The Constitution does not require impossible standards; all that is required is that the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.” Roth v. United States, 354 U. S., 476, 491 , quoting United States v. Petrillo, supra. Measured against the standard set by the Supreme Courts of the United States, Ohio, Iowa, and of its own state of Michigan, the Genessee Circuit Court’s unpublished opinion lacks persuasiveness.

11962–1962
Roth v. United States green
scotus · 1957
1 sentence

1962“The Constitution does not require impossible standards; all that is required is that the language conveys sufficiently definite warning as to the proscribed conduct when measured by common understanding and practices.” Roth v. United States, 354 U. S., 476, 491 , quoting United States v. Petrillo, supra. Measured against the standard set by the Supreme Courts of the United States, Ohio, Iowa, and of its own state of Michigan, the Genessee Circuit Court’s unpublished opinion lacks persuasiveness.

11962–1962
Connally v. General Construction Co. green
scotus · 1926
1 sentence

1953Connally v. General Construction Co., 269 U. S., 385 (1926).” .

11953–1953

Statutes the citing opinions construe

OH § Ohio Rev. Code § 2901.22 (4)

Counted by distinct opinions that both name this issue and are annotated to the section; sections every opinion cites regardless of issue are not filtered here, so read the counts against the total above.

Where else courts name it

OH 21 (1953–2023) MS 17 (1981–2023) FL 11 (1972–2005) CT 9 (1977–2001) IL 5 (1973–2023) AL 5 (1978–1991) NY 4 (1953–2009) WA 2 (1971–1982)

Opinions by the citing court's state. A doctrine retained in one state and abandoned in another shows up here as a year span that stalls.

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