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“it would appear to be generally irrelevant that the defendant not served within the 120-day period later finds out about the suit or is in fact later served, so long as there was not good cause for the failure to serve within the 120 days.”
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examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Lakeview Loan Servicing, LLC v. Daniel Salazar Lira; and United States of America, on behalf of the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
W.D. Tex. · 2025 · signal: see · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
it would appear to be generally irrelevant that the defendant not served within the 120-day period later finds out about the suit or is in fact later served, so long as there was not good cause for the failure to serve within the 120 days.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Alliance Laundry Systems LLC v. Central Laundrymat LLC
W.D. Okla. · 2021 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
it would appear to be generally irrelevant that the defendant not served within the -day period later finds out about the suit or is in fact later served, so long as there was not good cause for the failure to serve within the days.
discussed Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Institute for Policy Studies v. United States Central Intelligence Agency
D.D.C. · 2007 · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
imple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice for excusable neglect.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) Cloyd v. Arthur Anderson & Co. (4×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
D. Utah · 1993 · signal: see · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
rule 4(j) plainly places the burden on the plaintiff to show good cause.
examined Cited as authority (verbatim quote) David Floyd v. United States (3×) also: Cited as authority (rule)
7th Cir. · 1990 · signal: see · quote attribution · 1 verbatim quote · confidence high
we note that by the terms of rule 4(j), its 'good cause' exception relates only to 'why such service was not made within the period.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Heather Lee Bradley v. Bayou Automotive Group, L.L.C.
E.D. La. · 2026 · confidence medium
Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985) (citation omitted).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Kevin Pierre v. BNSF Railway Co et al
W.D. La. · 2026 · confidence medium
Here, the Court agrees that Plaintiff’s excuse of the Mardi Gras holiday does not establish “good cause” or excusable neglect.” “[S]imple inadvertence or mistake of counsel of ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (citing Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Brandon S. LaVergne v. Darrel Vannoy, et al.
M.D. La. · 2026 · confidence medium
The long periods of inaction by LaVergne, such as the latest period from July 15, 2025, to present, during which time LaVergne took no apparent steps to remedy defects in service, with the exception of filing a Motion seeking to extend the time for service, prevents a finding of good cause in this case.13 Even where there is not good cause, an extension may be warranted “if the applicable statute of limitations would bar the refiled action.”14 As explained below, because 9 Lindsey v. United States Railroad Retirement Board, 101 F.3d 444, 446 (5th Cir. 1996). 10 Thrasher v. City of Amarillo…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Bradley Joseph Lawrence Savoy v. Kenner Police Department, ET AL.
E.D. La. · 2025 · confidence medium
May 24, 2020) (Milazzo, J.) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)). “[S]imple 25 Beacon fails to affirmatively assert that it is a limited liability company.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) BRADLEY JOSEPH LAWRENCE SAVOY v. KENNER POLICE DEPARTMENT, ET AL.
E.D. La. · 2025 · confidence medium
May 24, 2020) (Milazzo, J.) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)). “[S]imple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Id. (quoting Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306 ). service of process is listed as “CT Corporation,” the Court will take judicial notice of these facts.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Herminio Castillo, Jr. v. Chad Thomas, et al.
S.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
To establish good cause, a litigant must demonstrate “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306 (emphasis omitted).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) J. F. and on behalf of her adolescents and mother v. LUIS VENTURA
N.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
Good cause normally requires a “showing of good faith . . . and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified.” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (citing Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Prytania Media LLC v. Netease, Inc.
E.D. La. · 2025 · confidence medium
“Simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Id. (quoting Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Trimble v. United States
N.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
“Good cause” under Rule 4(m) is defined as “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect . . . simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Lambert v. United States, 44 F.3d 296, 299 (5th Cir. 1995) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1206 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Floyd v. Avista Capital Holdings, LP
E.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
“Proof of good cause requires ‘at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.’” Thrasher, 709 F.3d at 511 (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)); see Dotson, 835 F. App’x at 713.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Covington v. Fresenius Medical Care
M.D. Tenn. · 2025 · confidence medium
Neither is “‘ignorance of the rules . . . .’” Moncrief v. Stone, 961 F.2d 595, 597 (6th Cir. 1992) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Butler v. Miller
E.D. La. · 2025 · confidence medium
P. 4(m). 19 Newby v. Enron Corp., 284 Fed.Appx. 146, 149 (5th Cir. 2008) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)) (emphasis in original). 20 Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306 ; see also Lambert v. United States, 44 F.3d 296, 299 (5th Cir. 1995). 21 Gentilello v. Rege, 627 F.3d 540, 544 (5th Cir. 2010) (quoting Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662, 678 , 129 S.Ct. 1937, 1949 , 173 L.Ed.2d 868 (2009)) (quotation marks omitted). 22 Iqbal, 556 U.S. at 679 , 129 S.Ct. at 1949 (quotation omitted). 23 Fernandez-Montes v. Allied Pilots Ass’n, 978 F.2d 278, 284 (5t…
discussed Cited as authority (rule) White v. Claiborne Electric Cooperative Inc (2×) also: Cited "see"
W.D. La. · 2025 · confidence medium
Generally, the plaintiff must show “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Stealth Onsite Solutions, LLC v. E&E, LLC.
S.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
Plaintiff has not established excusable neglect, “as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (Sth Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (Sth Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Porter v. Ozark Motor Lines, Inc.
N.D. Miss. · 2025 · confidence medium
To establish good cause for an extension, a plaintiff has the burden of demonstrating “at least as much as much as would be required to show excusable neglect …” Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985) (emphasis in original).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dalton v. Innov8tive Nutrition Inc
N.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
To establish good cause, the plaintiff has the burden of demonstrating “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect.” Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Jackson v. Mortgage Research Center L L C
W.D. La. · 2025 · confidence medium
Transit Auth., 213 F. App’x 343, 345 (5th Cir. 2007) (citing Rochon v. Dawson, 828 F.2d 1107 , 1109– 10 (5th Cir. 1987)); Systems Signs Supplies, 903 F.2d at 1013-14 ; Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1307 (5th Cir. 1985).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Piper v. Nissan Motors Acceptance Corporation
N.D. Tex. · 2025 · confidence medium
“To establish good cause, a [plaintiff] must demonstrate ‘at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.’” Id. (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Rodriguez v. Cotton
N.D. Tex. · 2024 · confidence medium
To establish good cause, a plaintiff must demonstrate “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Id. (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)) (emphasis omitted).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ziae v. Garland
N.D. Tex. · 2024 · confidence medium
“To establish good cause, a [plaintiff] must demonstrate ‘at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.’” Id. (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Kellett v. Livingston Parish School District
M.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
To establish good cause, a litigant must demonstrate “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect.” Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Shaw v. Gillen
E.D. Tex. · 2024 · confidence medium
“Proof of good cause requires ‘at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.’” Thrasher, 709 F.3d at 511 (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)); see Dotson v. Tunica-Biloxi Gaming Comm’n, 835 F. App’x 710 , 713 (5th Cir. 2020).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Baptiste v. Certain Underwriters at Lloyd's, London (2×)
E.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
Appx. 146, 149 (5th Cir. 2008) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)). 23 Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306 ; see also Lambert v. United States, 44 F.3d 296, 299 (5th Cir. 1995).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Young v. EAN Holdings, LLC (2×)
E.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
Signs, 903 F.2d at 1013 (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)). 120 Sys.
cited Cited as authority (rule) Adams v. Louisiana Department of Corrections
M.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
Dec. 16, 2014) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir.1985)). 20 Id (quoting Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306 ). 21 Id (quoting Charles Alan Wright & Arthur R.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Williams v. Entergy Services LLC
M.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
Stay of Ruling on Defendant Shayla Atkins’ Rule 55(c) Motion to Set Aside Default and for Extension of Time to Plead On April 1, 2024, Plaintiff filed a Motion for Request of Clerk’s Entry of Default against 2 Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985), quoting Charles Alan Wright & Arthur R.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) FREDS FISH FRY, INC. v. Galvan
W.D. Tex. · 2024 · confidence medium
To show good cause, a party must demonstrate “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice[.]” Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) McPherson v. Ochsner Health System Skilled Nursing Facility West Campus
E.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
“Proof of good cause requires ‘at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Weston Specialty Insurance Company v. Vaughn
M.D. La. · 2024 · confidence medium
Considering these circumstances, as well as the fact that Weston is represented by counsel, the Court finds no reason to re-visit the question of whether good cause may support any additional 10 Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013), citing Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985). 11 Id. 12 Hunter v. Goodwill Industries, No. 05-2698, 2006 WL 1968860 , at *1 (E.D.
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Ladner v. Hancock County School District
S.D. Miss. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Proof of good cause requires ‘at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect . . . .’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Sunbelt Rentals, Inc. v. Capital Restoration, LLC (2×) also: Cited "see"
E.D. La. · 2023 · confidence medium
May 24, 2020) (Milazzo, J.) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)). “[S]imple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Id. (quoting Winters, 776 F.2d at 1306 ).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Williams v. Zordan
W.D. La. · 2023 · confidence medium
Additionally, some “showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.” Id. (citing Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
cited Cited as authority (rule) Keathley v. Buddy Ayers Construction, Inc.
N.D. Miss. · 2023 · confidence medium
Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Lister v. United States Postal Service
S.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
To establish good cause, a plaintiff has the burden of demonstrating “at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect” and “simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice.” Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (Sth Cir. 1985) (emphasis in original).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Strike 3 Holdings, LLC v. Doe
E.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
discussed Cited as authority (rule) Dennis v. Eryngo Hills Apartments
W.D. Tex. · 2023 · confidence medium
“Additionally, some ‘showing of good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified is normally required.’” Thrasher v. City of Amarillo, 709 F.3d 509, 511 (5th Cir. 2013) (quoting Winters v. Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., 776 F.2d 1304, 1306 (5th Cir. 1985)).
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David W. Winters and Shelia Winters, Individually and His Wife, and as Parents of the Minor Children, Daniel and Matthew Winters, Plaintiffs
v.
Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc., and the Manitowoc Company, Inc.
85-3298.
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.
Nov 22, 1985.
776 F.2d 1304
Published

776 F.2d 1304

3 Fed.R.Serv.3d 321

David W. WINTERS and Shelia Winters, Individually and his
Wife, and as Parents of the minor children, Daniel
and Matthew Winters, Plaintiffs- Appellants,
v.
TELEDYNE MOVIBLE OFFSHORE, INC., Defendant,
and
The Manitowoc Company, Inc., Defendant-Appellee.

No. 85-3298

Summary Calendar.

United States Court of Appeals,
Fifth Circuit.

Nov. 22, 1985.

Richard A. Thalheim, Jr., Thibodaux, La., for plaintiffs-appellants.

Thomas J. Wyllie, Michael D. Carbo, New Orleans, La., for defendant-appellee.

Appeal from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana.

Before POLITZ, GARWOOD, and JOLLY, Circuit Judges.OPINION

GARWOOD, Circuit Judge:

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Appellants, David Winters and wife, plaintiffs below, appeal the dismissal under Fed.R.Civ.P. 4(j) of their diversity suit for damages against defendant-appellee The Manitowoc Company, Inc. ("Manitowoc"). We affirm.

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The present diversity suit was filed by appellants in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana on July 12, 1984 against Manitowoc and Teledyne Movible Offshore, Inc. ("Teledyne") as defendants, complaining of personal injuries received by plaintiff David Winters in a July 13, 1983 incident involving a crane manufactured by Manitowoc and being used by Teledyne, which was apparently David Winters' employer. No service of process having been made, Manitowoc, on January 14, 1985, more than 180 days after the suit was filed, moved for dismissal without prejudice under Rule 4(j). Thereafter, on February 19, 1985, Manitowoc was served by mail. The district court heard Manitowoc's motion to dismiss, after several postponements, on May 8, 1985 and granted the motion the same day, thus dismissing Manitowoc without prejudice. On May 15, 1985, appellants gave their notice of appeal.[1]

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Under Rule 4(j), which became effective in February 1983,

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"[i]f a service of the summons and complaint is not made upon a defendant within 120 days after the filing of the complaint and the party on whose behalf such service was required cannot show good cause why such service was not made within that period, the action shall be dismissed as to that defendant without prejudice upon the court's own initiative with notice to such party or upon motion." (Emphasis added.)

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We note that by the terms of Rule 4(j), its "good cause" exception relates only to "why such service was not made within the [120-day] period." It does not relate to other reasons why the action should not be dismissed. Where the referenced good cause is not shown, the Rule states that "the action shall be dismissed" (emphasis added), indicating that in such circumstance dismissal is mandatory. See also 10 Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure: Civil Sec. 1138 at 261 (1985 Pocket Part) ("the action must be dismissed"); 96 F.R.D. 81 at 119 ("the court must dismiss the action"). Presumably, the 120-day period could be extended by the district court "in its discretion" under Fed.R.Civ.P. 6(b) "for cause shown," but if the extension were requested after the 120 days, a motion and showing that the failure to serve within that time "was the result of excusable neglect" would also be required. Rule 6(b)(2).[2] We further observe that the text of Rule 4(j) plainly places the burden on the plaintiff to show good cause. See Wei v. State of Hawaii, 763 F.2d 370, 372 (9th Cir.1985). Cf. 10 Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure: Civil Sec. 1165 at 621-22 (indicating that the burden is on movant for relief under Rule 6(b) to show both "cause" and "excusable neglect").

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It would appear to be generally irrelevant that the defendant not served within the 120-day period later finds out about the suit or is in fact later served, so long as there was not good cause for the failure to serve within the 120 days. As noted, the only exception to Rule 4(j) dismissal is good cause for failure to serve within the 120 days. Later service or later knowledge by the defendant is irrelevant to that. Further, Rule 4(j) dismissal may be on the motion of the defendant not timely served, and the plaintiff is to be given an opportunity to show good cause (under Fed.R.Civ.P. 5, the plaintiff would have to be given notice of the defendant's motion; under Rule 4(j), when the action is on the court's initiative it must be "with notice"). If the defendant's mere becoming aware of the suit after the 120-day period precluded dismissal, then the "upon motion" provision of Rule 4(j) would be meaningless. Likewise, the fact that the plaintiff must be notified and given an opportunity to show good cause necessarily means that service after the 120-day period, where the delay is not excused by good cause, does not preclude dismissal, else dismissal under Rule 4(j) could almost never be effected even though there were a complete lack of good cause for the failure to timely serve. Certainly, nothing in the language of Rule 4(j) infers that a dismissal thereunder is improper merely because the defendant has been served after the 120-day period.

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Without attempting a rigid or all-encompassing definition of "good cause," it would appear to require at least as much as would be required to show excusable neglect, as to which simple inadvertence or mistake of counsel or ignorance of the rules usually does not suffice, and some showing of "good faith on the part of the party seeking an enlargement and some reasonable basis for noncompliance within the time specified" is normally required. 10 Wright & Miller Federal Practice and Procedure: Civil Sec. 1165 at 622 (emphasis added). The district court is clearly not compelled to accept a lesser "excusable neglect" showing. The Wei Court stated that "[t]he inadvertence of ... counsel ... does not qualify as good cause for ... failure to comply with Rule 4(j)." 763 F.2d at 372. Certainly, the district court does not have to accept such as constituting good cause. In any event, here the failure to serve appears to have been deliberate and without any reasonable justification.

8

In attempting to excuse their noncompliance with Rule 4(j), appellants call attention to the fact that on July 13, 1984, the day after they filed the present case (No. 84-3439 in the court below),[3] they also filed a suit on the exact same cause of action in the Louisiana state court against Manitowoc, Teledyne, and also Manitowoc Coastal State Sales and Services, Inc. ("Coastal"), which apparently sold the crane to Teledyne. Appellants served this state suit by mail on Manitowoc in July 1984. At some later time during 1984, just when is not disclosed by the record, Manitowoc (or it and Teledyne) removed the state court suit to the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. The grounds for removal were apparently diversity, and seemingly included the contention that if Coastal were a Louisiana corporation for such purposes it had been fraudulently joined. The removed state suit is docket number 84-4255 in the court below, and apparently is still pending there. The removed suit was assigned to a different judge than the judge before whom the present case was pending.[4] Appellants do not contend, and did not contend below, that they were unable to effect timely service of the present suit on Manitowoc, or that they ever made any attempt to do so, or that they did not have the necessary information, or the like. Rather, their contention is, as it was below, that there was no need to incur "the added costs" of serving[5] Manitowoc since it had been timely served in the state suit, and the state suit had been removed to the same federal court as that in which the present suit was pending (although it was pending before a different judge), and the two suits were on precisely the same cause of action. However, appellants did not and do not claim that Manitowoc was ever aware (or that appellants believed it was aware), prior to January 1985, of the present suit (the initially filed federal suit, No. 84-3439); and Manitowoc has asserted that it did not become aware of the present suit until January 1985 when it "inadvertently stumbled upon it." Accordingly, the burden in this respect being on appellants, we assume that Manitowoc was not aware of the present suit until January 1985, that prior thereto appellants did not believe Manitowoc was aware of the suit, and that Manitowoc had no reason to be aware of it. Under these circumstances, no good cause for failure to effect timely service exists.

9

Appellants also urge that the dismissal has the practical effect of a dismissal with prejudice, only dismissal without prejudice being authorized under Rule 4(j), since limitations has run. Even laying aside that the removed suit (No. 84-4255) is apparently still pending, the fact that limitations has run does not prevent a Rule 4(j) dismissal. We so held in Redding v. Essex Crane Rental Corporation of Alabama, 752 F.2d 1077 (5th Cir.1985), with which appellants' counsel should be familiar. See also Wei, 763 F.2d at 372.

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The dismissal is accordingly AFFIRMED.

1

We note, sua sponte, a matter respecting our jurisdiction. When the notice of appeal was given, appellants' suit was still pending against Teledyne, and no certification was made by the district court under Fed.R.Civ.P. 54(b). Ordinarily, this would require dismissal of the appeal. However, we are informed by both parties that the district court has now also dismissed this suit as against Teledyne. Accordingly, the suit is completely terminated and we have jurisdiction under the rule of Jetco Electronic Industries, Inc. v. Gardiner, 473 F.2d 1228, 1231 (5th Cir.1973). See, e.g., Sandidge v. Salem Offshore Drilling Co., 764 F.2d 252, 255 (5th Cir.1985); Martin v. Campbell, 692 F.2d 112, 114 (11th Cir.1982) (applying Fifth Circuit precedents)

2

See 10 Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure: Civil Sec. 1138 at 261 (1985 Pocket Part): "The time limits in Rule 4(j), although they are meant to be strictly enforced, are not unduly harsh, as the time may be enlarged by the court pursuant to Rule 6(b), if necessary." (Footnote omitted.)

3

Appellants say the state suit was filed July 13, 1984. Manitowoc indicated below that the state suit was filed July 19, 1984

4

In March 1985, on motion of Manitowoc apparently filed earlier that month in the removed case, the removed case was transferred to the judge before whom the present case (No. 84-3439) was pending. Thereafter, in April 1985, Manitowoc moved to consolidate the two cases. That motion was never acted on

5

In this regard, we note the availability of service by mail