58 New York opinions name it 9 courts 1866–2025 3 in the last five years
The cases below were cited by New York courts in a sentence that names this issue. Sides come from how each citing opinion treated the case (Syfertize flag on that citation), so a case can appear on both: that is where the law is contested. A red or yellow chip is the case's own overall treatment.
| Case | Followed | Cited |
|---|---|---|
Tagle v. Jakobgreen2 sentences2017It is well established that there is no duty to warn of an open and obvious dangerous condition “because ‘in such instances the condition is a warning in itself ” (Mazurek v Home Depot U.S.A., 303 AD2d 960, 962 [2003]; see Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]). 2016Where the condition is open and obvious, ‘the condition is a warning in itself ” (Duelos v County of Monroe, 258 AD2d 925, 926 [1999]). “[T]he issue of whether a hazard is latent or open and obvious is generally fact-specific and thus usually a jury question” (Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]; see McKnight v Coppola, 113 AD3d 1087, 1087 [2014]). | 6 | 7 |
MCKNIGHT, DENISE F. v. COPPOLA, GARYgreen2 sentences2016Where the condition is open and obvious, ‘the condition is a warning in itself ” (Duelos v County of Monroe, 258 AD2d 925, 926 [1999]). “[T]he issue of whether a hazard is latent or open and obvious is generally fact-specific and thus usually a jury question” (Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]; see McKnight v Coppola, 113 AD3d 1087, 1087 [2014]). 2016Where the condition is open and obvious, ‘the condition is a warning in itself ” (Duelos v County of Monroe, 258 AD2d 925, 926 [1999]). “[T]he issue of whether a hazard is latent or open and obvious is generally fact-specific and thus usually a jury question” (Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]; see McKnight v Coppola, 113 AD3d 1087, 1087 [2014]). | 3 | 3 |
Tarricone v. Stategreen2 sentences2003The rule of law which imposes no duty to warn against obvious dangers is founded in the rationale that, “[u]nder such circumstances, the condition is a warning in itself’ (Tarricone v State of New York, 175 AD2d 308, 309 [1991], supra; see Thorn-hill v Toys “R” Us NYTEX, 183 AD2d 1071, 1072-1073 [1992], supra). 2002While property owners and business proprietors have a duty to maintain their premises in reasonably safe condition (Di Ponzio v Riordan, 89 NY2d 578, 582 ; Basso v Miller, 40 NY2d 233 ), which duty includes eliminating, protecting against, or warning of dangerous, defective, or otherwise hazardous conditions, there is no duty to protect or warn against conditions that are in plain view, open, obvious, and readily observable by those “employing the reasonable use of their senses.” (Tarricone v State of New York, 175 AD2d 308, 309 , lv denied 78 NY2d 862 ; see also, Poerio v State of New York, 1 | 2 | 4 |
Matter of Ny County Des Litig.green2 sentences2010This provision assumes that the plaintiff knows the cause of the injuries at the time they are discovered—i.e., become manifest (see generally Matter of New York County DES Litig., 89 NY2d at 513 [“That CPLR 214-c (2)’s reference to ‘discovery of the injury’ was intended to mean discovery of the condition on which the claim was based and nothing more is . . . apparent from the legislative history of the provision”]). 2003The Court of Appeals has held that discovery of the injury means “discovery of the condition on which the claim was based” or “discovery of the manifestations or symptoms of the latent disease that the harmful substance produced” (Wetherill v Eli Lilly & Co., 89 NY2d 506, 513-514 [1997]). | 2 | 3 |
Thornhill v. Toys \R\" Us NYTEXgreen2 sentences2003The rule of law which imposes no duty to warn against obvious dangers is founded in the rationale that, “[u]nder such circumstances, the condition is a warning in itself’ (Tarricone v State of New York, 175 AD2d 308, 309 [1991], supra; see Thorn-hill v Toys “R” Us NYTEX, 183 AD2d 1071, 1072-1073 [1992], supra). 2003It is well settled that a landowner has no duty to warn of an open and obvious dangerous condition (see Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]), because “in such instances the condition is a warning in itself’ (Thornhill v Toys “R” Us NYTEX, 183 AD2d 1071, 1073 [1992]; see Christmann v Murphy, 226 AD2d 1069, 1070 [1996], lv denied 89 NY2d 801 [1996]). | 2 | 3 |
ADC Orange, Inc. v. Coyote Acres, Inc.green2 sentences2024In any event, defendants may not rely on their own failure to comply with this condition as a defense, as "one may not take advantage of a condition precedent, the performance of which he himself has rendered impossible" ( Kooleraire Serv. & Installation Corp. v Bd. of Educ. , 28 NY2d 101, 106 [1971]; see ADC Orange, Inc. v Coyote Acres, Inc. , 7 NY3d 484, 490 [2006]; Ctr. for Specialty Care, Inc. v CSC Acquisition I, LLC , 185 AD3d 34 [1st Dept 2020]). 2024In any event, defendants may not rely on their own failure to comply with this condition as a defense, as "one may not take advantage of a condition precedent, the performance of which he himself has rendered impossible" ( Kooleraire Serv. & Installation Corp. v Bd. of Educ. , 28 NY2d 101, 106 [1971]; see ADC Orange, Inc. v Coyote Acres, Inc. , 7 NY3d 484, 490 [2006]; Ctr. for Specialty Care, Inc. v CSC Acquisition I, LLC , 185 AD3d 34 [1st Dept 2020]). | 2 | 2 |
Kooleraire Service & Installation Corp. v. Board of Educationgreen2 sentences2024In any event, defendants may not rely on their own failure to comply with this condition as a defense, as "one may not take advantage of a condition precedent, the performance of which he himself has rendered impossible" ( Kooleraire Serv. & Installation Corp. v Bd. of Educ. , 28 NY2d 101, 106 [1971]; see ADC Orange, Inc. v Coyote Acres, Inc. , 7 NY3d 484, 490 [2006]; Ctr. for Specialty Care, Inc. v CSC Acquisition I, LLC , 185 AD3d 34 [1st Dept 2020]). 2024In any event, defendants may not rely on their own failure to comply with this condition as a defense, as "one may not take advantage of a condition precedent, the performance of which he himself has rendered impossible" ( Kooleraire Serv. & Installation Corp. v Bd. of Educ. , 28 NY2d 101, 106 [1971]; see ADC Orange, Inc. v Coyote Acres, Inc. , 7 NY3d 484, 490 [2006]; Ctr. for Specialty Care, Inc. v CSC Acquisition I, LLC , 185 AD3d 34 [1st Dept 2020]). | 2 | 2 |
Mazurek v. Home Depot U.S.A., Inc.green2 sentences2017It is well established that there is no duty to warn of an open and obvious dangerous condition “because ‘in such instances the condition is a warning in itself ” (Mazurek v Home Depot U.S.A., 303 AD2d 960, 962 [2003]; see Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]). 2012It is well established that there is no duty to warn of an open and obvious dangerous condition (see Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]), “because ‘in such instances the condition is a warning in itself ” (Mazurek v Home Depot U.S.A., 303 AD2d 960, 962 [2003]). | 2 | 2 |
Steinhardt v. Johns-Manville Corp.green2 sentences1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 NY2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact” or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor’s Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g., Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp., 54 NY2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp., 47 NY2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc., 48 NY2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. 1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 N.Y.2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact" or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor's Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g. , Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp. , 54 N.Y.2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp. , 47 N.Y.2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc. , 48 N.Y.2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. | 2 | 2 |
Hutchinson v. Sheridan Hill House Corp.green1 sentence2025In opposition defendant argues that the defect was trivial and that “a defendant may not be [held liable] for negligent maintenance by reason of trivial defects on a walkway” (Hutchinson v Sheridan Hill House Corp., 26 NY3d 66, 78 [2015]). | 1 | 1 |
SCHNEIDER, LINDA v. CORPORATE PLACE, LLCgreen1 sentence2018"It is well established that there is no duty to warn of an open and obvious dangerous condition because in such instances the condition is a warning in itself" ( Schneider v Corporate Place, LLC , 149 AD3d 1503, 1504 [4th Dept 2017] [internal quotation marks omitted]). | 1 | 1 |
People v. Letterloughgreen1 sentence2014People v Letterlough ( 86 NY2d 259, 261 [1995]) involved a sentence imposed for the crime of driving while intoxicated, which included as a condition of probation, that the defendant affix to his license plate a fluorescent sign stating “Convicted DWI.” The Court found that such a sentence was not expressly authorized by the legislature, drawing an analogy to Penal Law § 65.10, which had recently been amended to include the imposition of IID as a condition of a sentence including probation or conditional discharge (id. at 268-269). | 1 | 1 |
Martin v. RP Associatesgreen1 sentence2010School Dist., 74 AD3d at 1654-1655 ; Mosquera v Orin, 48 AD3d 935, 936-937 [2008]; Martin v RP Assoc., 37 AD3d 1017, 1018-1019 [2007]). | 1 | 1 |
Mosquera v. Oringreen1 sentence2010School Dist., 74 AD3d at 1654-1655 ; Mosquera v Orin, 48 AD3d 935, 936-937 [2008]; Martin v RP Assoc., 37 AD3d 1017, 1018-1019 [2007]). | 1 | 1 |
Liriano v. Hobart Corp.green1 sentence2003Stated otherwise, “ ‘there should be no liability for failing to warn someone of a risk or hazard which he [or she] appreciated to the same extent as a warning would have provided’ * * * as no benefit would be gained by requiring a warning” (Liriano v Hobart Corp., 92 NY2d 232, 242 [1998], quoting Prosser and Keeton, Torts § 96, at 686 [5th ed]). | 1 | 1 |
In re Amanda L.green1 sentence2003It is well settled that a landowner has no duty to warn of an open and obvious dangerous condition (see Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001]), because “in such instances the condition is a warning in itself’ (Thornhill v Toys “R” Us NYTEX, 183 AD2d 1071, 1073 [1992]; see Christmann v Murphy, 226 AD2d 1069, 1070 [1996], lv denied 89 NY2d 801 [1996]). | 1 | 1 |
Pinero v. Rite Aid of New York, Inc.green1 sentence2003The “no duty” open and obvious rule continues to apply throughout the state in negligence actions in which, unlike the matter at hand, liability is sought to be imposed principally on the basis of a landowner’s or lessee’s failure to warn of a readily observable danger (see, Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001] [no duty to warn of open and obvious danger posed by electric transmission wires]; Pinero v Rite Aid of N.Y., 294 AD2d 251, 252 [2002], affd 99 NY2d 541 [2002] [no duty to warn of presence of wagon in store aisle, since “the condition is a warning in itself’]; Rosen v New York Zoologi | 1 | 1 |
| Poerio v. Stategreen | 1 | 1 |
| Pfleuger v. Pfleugergreen | 1 | 1 |
| Matter of Ellisgreen | 1 | 1 |
| Badeau v. Meadgreen | 1 | 1 |
| Case | Negative | Cited |
|---|---|---|
| No negative-treatment citations attached to this issue in New York. Read the followed side critically anyway. | ||
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Rolfe v. Galt
green
2 sentences1999Under such circumstances, the condition is a warning in itself (see, Rolfe v Galt, 102 AD2d 983, 984 ). 1999Under such circumstances, the condition is a warning in itself (see, Rolfe v Galt, 102 AD2d 983, 984 ). | 4 | 1991–1999 |
Center for Specialty Care, Inc. v. CSC Acquisition I, LLC
green
2 sentences2024In any event, defendants may not rely on their own failure to comply with this condition as a defense, as "one may not take advantage of a condition precedent, the performance of which he himself has rendered impossible" ( Kooleraire Serv. & Installation Corp. v Bd. of Educ. , 28 NY2d 101, 106 [1971]; see ADC Orange, Inc. v Coyote Acres, Inc. , 7 NY3d 484, 490 [2006]; Ctr. for Specialty Care, Inc. v CSC Acquisition I, LLC , 185 AD3d 34 [1st Dept 2020]). 2024In any event, defendants may not rely on their own failure to comply with this condition as a defense, as "one may not take advantage of a condition precedent, the performance of which he himself has rendered impossible" ( Kooleraire Serv. & Installation Corp. v Bd. of Educ. , 28 NY2d 101, 106 [1971]; see ADC Orange, Inc. v Coyote Acres, Inc. , 7 NY3d 484, 490 [2006]; Ctr. for Specialty Care, Inc. v CSC Acquisition I, LLC , 185 AD3d 34 [1st Dept 2020]). | 2 | 2024–2024 |
Rothstein v. Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co.
green
2 sentences1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 NY2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact” or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor’s Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g., Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp., 54 NY2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp., 47 NY2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc., 48 NY2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. 1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 N.Y.2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact" or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor's Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g. , Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp. , 54 N.Y.2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp. , 47 N.Y.2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc. , 48 N.Y.2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. | 2 | 1997–1997 |
Thornton v. Roosevelt Hospital
green
2 sentences1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 NY2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact” or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor’s Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g., Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp., 54 NY2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp., 47 NY2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc., 48 NY2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. 1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 N.Y.2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact" or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor's Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g. , Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp. , 54 N.Y.2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp. , 47 N.Y.2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc. , 48 N.Y.2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. | 2 | 1997–1997 |
Reis v. Pfizer, Inc.
green
2 sentences1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 NY2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact” or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor’s Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g., Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp., 54 NY2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp., 47 NY2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc., 48 NY2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. 1997As we recently observed in Rothstein v Tennessee Gas Pipeline Co. ( 87 N.Y.2d 90, 93 ), CPLR 214-c was enacted to overcome the effect of a line of Court of Appeals decisions holding that toxic tort claims accrue upon "impact" or exposure even though the resulting illness may not be manifested for a long time thereafter (Sponsor's Mem in Support of L 1986, ch 682, 1986 NY Legis Ann, at 287; see, e.g. , Matter of Steinhardt v Johns-Manville Corp. , 54 N.Y.2d 1008 ; Thornton v Roosevelt Hosp. , 47 N.Y.2d 780 ; Reis v Pfizer, Inc. , 48 N.Y.2d 664 ; Schwartz v Heyden Newport Chem. | 2 | 1997–1997 |
Maxwell v. Wyman
green
2 sentences1973Petitioner is the proprietor of one of the “ Maxwell ” nursing homes (Maxwell v. Wyman, 458 F. 2d 1146 ) which were originally decertified by the State Department of Social Services at the end of 1971 for failure to comply with the requirements of the Life Safety Code of the National Fire Protection Association as required by title XIX of the Social Security Act (U. S. Code tit. 42, § 1396a, subd. [a], par. [28], cl. [F], subd. cl. [i]; Code of Fed. 1973Petitioner is the proprietor of one of the “ Maxwell ” nursing homes [Maxwell v. Wyman, 458 F. 2d 1146 ) which were originally decertified by the State Department of Social Services at the end of 1971 for failure to comply with the requirements of the Life Safety Code of the National Fire Protection Association as required by title XIX of the Social Security Act (17. | 2 | 1973–1973 |
Quayle v. City of New York
green
2 sentences1972In Quayle (supra, p. 24 ), our Court of Appeals had this to say: “ The right of a public official to recover from the city the full salary attached to the office is made subject to the condition that a claim against the city for such salary must be asserted promptly in the manner provided by the Legislature. 1941(Quayle v. City of New York, 278 N. Y. 19, 24 ; Matter of Shevlin v. LaGuardia, 279 id. 649; Finn v. City of New York, 282 id. 153.) In the Quayle ease the distinction is made clear by the court’s statement at page 24: “ The right of a public official to recover from the city the full salary attached to the office is made subject to the condition that a claim against the city for such salary must be asserted promptly in the manner provided by the Legislature.” (Emphasis ours.) That the board of higher education is an entity separate and distinct from the municipality and is a State agency for | 2 | 1941–1972 |
People v. Levy
green
1 sentence2014In People v Levy ( 91 AD3d 793 [2d Dept 2012]), cited by the petitioner, the Court held that although Penal Law § 65.10 (2) (k-1) authorizes, as a condition of sentencing, installation of an IID in connection with violations of alcohol-related offenses (Vehicle and Traffic Law § 1192 [2], [2-a], [3]), it did not expressly authorize such a condition for a violation of Vehicle and Traffic Law § 1192 (4) (driving while ability impaired by drugs). | 1 | 2014–2014 |
Pierson v. North Colonie Central School District
green
1 sentence2010School Dist., 74 AD3d at 1654-1655 ; Mosquera v Orin, 48 AD3d 935, 936-937 [2008]; Martin v RP Assoc., 37 AD3d 1017, 1018-1019 [2007]). | 1 | 2010–2010 |
People v. Venable
green
1 sentence2008Inasmuch as Osofisan’s testimony that he required notification if the officers left the motel room with defendant conflicted with that of the testifying officers, we decline to disturb County Court’s credibility determination on this issue (see People v Bermudez, 31 AD3d 968 , 968 [2006], lv denied 8 NY3d 944 [2007]). | 1 | 2008–2008 |
Hackett v. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
green
1 sentence2006While the trial court was authorized to promise to impose a minimum sentence if the defendant opted for a nonjury trial (see People v Sanchez, 306 AD2d 86 [2003]; People v Daniels, 209 AD2d 340 [1994]), no authority existed for the trial court to prematurely determine guilt and the sentence as a condition of the waiver. | 1 | 2006–2006 |
Morrison v. City of New York
green
1 sentence2006While the trial court was authorized to promise to impose a minimum sentence if the defendant opted for a nonjury trial (see People v Sanchez, 306 AD2d 86 [2003]; People v Daniels, 209 AD2d 340 [1994]), no authority existed for the trial court to prematurely determine guilt and the sentence as a condition of the waiver. | 1 | 2006–2006 |
| Pinero v. RITE AID OF NEW YORK, INC green | 1 | 2003–2003 |
Rosen v. New York Zoological Society
green
1 sentence2003The “no duty” open and obvious rule continues to apply throughout the state in negligence actions in which, unlike the matter at hand, liability is sought to be imposed principally on the basis of a landowner’s or lessee’s failure to warn of a readily observable danger (see, Tagle v Jakob, 97 NY2d 165, 169 [2001] [no duty to warn of open and obvious danger posed by electric transmission wires]; Pinero v Rite Aid of N.Y., 294 AD2d 251, 252 [2002], affd 99 NY2d 541 [2002] [no duty to warn of presence of wagon in store aisle, since “the condition is a warning in itself’]; Rosen v New York Zoologi | 1 | 2003–2003 |
| Di Ponzio v. Riordan green | 1 | 2002–2002 |
| Basso v. Miller green | 1 | 2002–2002 |
| Morgan v. State green | 1 | 2000–2000 |
| Hicks v. Bush green | 1 | 1995–1995 |
| Zimmer v. Chemung County Performing Arts, Inc. green | 1 | 1994–1994 |
| Plantikow v. City of New York green | 1 | 1994–1994 |
| In re Fisch neutral | 1 | 1992–1992 |
| In re the Queens County Bar Ass'n in Respect of Murphy neutral | 1 | 1992–1992 |
| In re the Queens County Bar Ass'n with Respect to Bluhm neutral | 1 | 1992–1992 |
| Herman v. State green | 1 | 1986–1986 |
| Portnick v. Whalen neutral | 1 | 1984–1984 |
| Teachers Insurance & Annuity Ass'n of America v. Shamrock Broadcasting Co. green | 1 | 1983–1983 |
| Schnell v. Schnall green | 1 | 1983–1983 |
| Altz v. . Leiberson green | 1 | 1981–1981 |
| Deso v. London & Lancashire Indemnity Co. of America green | 1 | 1981–1981 |
| Kronfeld v. Fidelity & Casualty Co. green | 1 | 1978–1978 |
| Kronfeld v. Fidelity & Casualty Co. green | 1 | 1978–1978 |
| Soros v. Board of Appeals of Southampton neutral | 1 | 1976–1976 |
| Gochee v. Wagner red | 1 | 1970–1970 |
| People Ex Rel. Saia v. Martin neutral | 1 | 1970–1970 |
| People v. Hooter neutral | 1 | 1961–1961 |
| People v. Ercole green | 1 | 1961–1961 |
| Tipton v. . Feitner green | 1 | 1959–1959 |
| Barsky v. Board of Regents of the University of the State of New York green | 1 | 1957–1957 |
| MATTER OF BARSKY v. Bd. of Regents green | 1 | 1957–1957 |
| Winter v. New York Life Insurance neutral | 1 | 1955–1955 |
Opinions by the citing court's state. A doctrine retained in one state and abandoned in another shows up here as a year span that stalls.